Battery question

You do have the advantage with the Trojans of being able to check each cell individually of course, so can tell if a cell is bad. you could even try flushing and refilling with new acid? That could be a pretty cheap thing to try?
 
Robmac said:
Still not convinced to get lead/carbon Trev.

The Trojans have lasted 6 years and been abused quite a bit so they haven't done bad. Still looking into it.
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Maybe you've had your 6 yrs. worth out of them, that's the best I've had from LB's. If you want to load test them, I'll ask my wife If she's free, she somehow manages to leave everything turned on all night 🤐.
 
wildebus said:
You do have the advantage with the Trojans of being able to check each cell individually of course, so can tell if a cell is bad. you could even try flushing and refilling with new acid? That could be a pretty cheap thing to try?
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Wash the bad cell with baking soda and refill with new acid.
 
Take them fully charged to a decent battery supplier and get a load test done on them. It's 6 years in Oct since I put the Trojan t105s in and fingers crossed they are still doing good.
 
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Question regarding reconditioning program on smart chargers. Do you not need to run this cycle on an individual battery, not a bank?
 
To be honest after 6 years IF I was having any doubts about my batteries ...

I'd be replacing them ideally with an affordable upgrade ...

Lead carbon would be my choice ...though lithium is tempting apart from the price .

I just can't be bothered with stuff when it's become unreliable ...
Especially when it affects my holiday time .

Too much time in my 'Yoof' keeping old bangers going with frequent trips to the scrap yard .
 
Robs buying another bike and batteries are the last thing on his mind, he was spotted in a bike showroom this week.
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mistericeman said:
To be honest after 6 years IF I was having any doubts about my batteries ...

I'd be replacing them ideally with an affordable upgrade ...

Lead carbon would be my choice ...though lithium is tempting apart from the price .

I just can't be bothered with stuff when it's become unreliable ...
Especially when it affects my holiday time .

Too much time in my 'Yoof' keeping old bangers going with frequent trips to the scrap yard .
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My upcoming trip is on a site wit EHU so not worried and time to do research into replacements.

If I was staying off grid somewhere soon they would have been replaced by now.
 
Robmac said:
Doesn't really matter in my case Neil as 2 x 6V are treated as 1 x 12V by the charger. It's still 6 x 2V cells.
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If you want something a bit more up to date but you like and trust the Trojan brand, have a look at these ....
Latest technology Lead Acid battery made by Trojan AES

Still a Lead Acid battery so no need to mess around changing chargers, but with a charge cycle count coming close to Lithium, and at a price around the same as a pair of T105s, and with a footprint similar to a pair of T105s placed end to end.
 
wildebus said:
If you want something a bit more up to date but you like and trust the Trojan brand, have a look at these ....
Latest technology Lead Acid battery made by Trojan AES

Still a Lead Acid battery so no need to mess around changing chargers, but with a charge cycle count coming close to Lithium, and at a price around the same as a pair of T105s, and with a footprint similar to a pair of T105s placed end to end.
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I see it weighs 61 kilos !!!! wow
 
yeoblade said:
I see it weighs 61 kilos !!!! wow
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you don't get owt for nowt :)


Bear in mind weight is not an issue for all users.
Take a narrowboat ... they have a load of bricks for ballast, so a heavy battery is irrelevant - they just remove some ballast.
The AGM batteries I had in my last Camper conversion weighed 71Kg. And that was EACH battery, not in total. And I still had over a tonne of payload after I had 3 of them installed.
 
wildebus said:
If you want something a bit more up to date but you like and trust the Trojan brand, have a look at these ....
Latest technology Lead Acid battery made by Trojan AES

Still a Lead Acid battery so no need to mess around changing chargers, but with a charge cycle count coming close to Lithium, and at a price around the same as a pair of T105s, and with a footprint similar to a pair of T105s placed end to end.
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Taller than the T105 but says it can be side mounted. (y)
 
yeoblade said:
I see it weighs 61 kilos !!!! wow
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Most non lithiums seem to be getting toward the 30kg figure for 100Ah so 61kg is only slightly heavier than usual.
A little more expensive than some alternatives but not massively so and the specs are impressive so I suspect the price and the weight are as a result of very good build quality. Looks like a very nice battery. (y)
 
Nabsim said:
Question regarding reconditioning program on smart chargers. Do you not need to run this cycle on an individual battery, not a bank?
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Ultimately it depends on how the device works. Still to be converted re this ere 'reconditioning' malarkey but the idea is to drive the sulphation off of the plates with a higher voltage than normal which is damaging in its self. Easiest way is to up the charge voltage and literally overcharge it for a period of time, with this method the batteries could be left as a bank but there are other ways like pulse or resonating that would work best 1 battery at a time.
The biggest problem with any tec is that there is no way of accuracy establishing just how much sulphate there is without opening the battery up, external measurement doesn't reveal a lot despite what manufacturers claim. I think it's fair to say that revival will never be huge or permanent, best to look after your batteries by not letting them sit partially charged in the first place rather than performing some sort of dodgy CPR when its too late.
 
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