Automated external defibrillator

Should we have an AED? Would you donate to fund it?

  • Yes to AED, Yes to Donation.

    Votes: 72 91.1%

  • Yes to AED, No to Donation.

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • No to AED.

    Votes: 5 6.3%
  • Total voters
    79
Good idea. How can we donate?
A quick look shows a few models are available, perhaps go for a model the pros use? or seek the advice of the pros.
I've seen one in an old red phone box but for the life of me I can't remember where!

Taken a closer look and many models are available at various price points, no idea of their ease of use or efficacy.

Count me in, but I would suggest professional advice on the unit purchased.
 
runnach said:
Excuse the swear word.

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He had them wrong way round everybody knows left nipple is positive right nip negative silly hunt.
 
I'm glad we've got an idea how much they cost. It's actually rather less than I had thought.

I assume there's an ongoing maintenance cost too.
 
The AED I am looking at is the Powerheart G5 AED Automatic with CPR Feedback.

Whilst at meets this will be in an external cabinet on the trailer. (I may be asleep or out)


Defib £1317.60
Ready kit £28.80
External heated cabinet £400.00 - £700.00






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Tim120 said:
Good idea. How can we donate?
A quick look shows a few models are available, perhaps go for a model the pros use? or seek the advice of the pros.
I've seen one in an old red phone box but for the life of me I can't remember where!

Taken a closer look and many models are available at various price points, no idea of their ease of use or efficacy.

Count me in, but I would suggest professional advice on the unit purchased.
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No you do not need the professional models like the ambulance as the difference is that they carry a load more feature such as ECG recording for the Hospital also suction units etc built in. The simpler the better as the instructions are that even a complete novice can follow them. From £650 up when the pro units are in excess of £6000 , as an aside the pads are £70 per set and use once.

Down here we had a load of thieving *******s break into a south coast ambulance station and rob most of the parked ambulances of the defib units. Probably going abroad and stolen to order.
 
we unfortunately are getting older, not necessarily infirm, and who knows when we might have need of a defibrillator. We are up for this.
 
st3v3 said:
Mate, the cabinet price is nuts!
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It is a weatherproof and mains heated unit for bolting to a building only some have chargers built in as well. not for a vehicle.
a much cheaper and better one would also be available.
 
Looser cruiser said:
I canny believe that this has been read over 300 times and only 17 people have stepped up to the plate you can guarantee it'll be one of the 283 that dident want to donate that'll need this thing first come on guys phill I'll put a £100 to start ball rolling. Sorry now 28
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Phil should make a note of all those who don't donate and should they arrest, Phil should stand over them going "naa na na naaa na".
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st3v3 said:
Mate, the cabinet price is nuts!
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The cabinet has to have a 12v heater.

It also has to be a certified one so that we can register the defib. This means that the locker will have a code on it that you give to the ambulance service, they will then be able to give the caller the code to open the locker. The locker is also alarmed.
 
Good idea.

Yeah put me in for a couple of bob. I can see me needing it down the pub so site it on the bar stool next to me.
.... Tom ....
 
If we can all agree on somthing for once this can only benefit us this thing used only the once would pay for itself a million times over and would be an asset to our community. But the operator would have to be sober and able to read instructions so that's me goosed. Phil I'm more than happy to test this thing and we'll need a couple of bottles of oxygen as well I've heard it's good for hangovers
 
Looks like the vote is pretty much in favour, by a big majority.

Happy to support it, it is a very good idea.

Peter
 
Admin said:
The cabinet has to have a 12v heater.

It also has to be a certified one so that we can register the defib. This means that the locker will have a code on it that you give to the ambulance service, they will then be able to give the caller the code to open the locker. The locker is also alarmed.
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Hi Phil, the cabinets are only registered if they are permanent. We have one on our building and it is given a call sign and made known as the nearest resource to the 999 control room. This is not possible with one hat moves around and neither is the cabinet practical for use in this case. If you are nearby and want to come see ours please feel free. The cabinet is very heavy, secured to the wall and has heating and lighting. The AED I carry in our motorhome is a G5 and it is just kept in the locker inside. If anyone needs it they can knock on the van door to access it and that's the only practical way I can see it working at rallies etc.

We sell AED's and I will get some prices for you as we get discount with most suppliers. Am on my phone at moment so will reply later with more details etc.
 
AED - YES and YES

Great idea and happy to donate, and I am First Aid + AED trained.

But I am not much use at present as the VW T4 Campervan had a near 3 grand gearbox rebuild after breaking down leaving the Whitwell meet, and a second failure on the first journey afterwards.

Currently the van is in the Autogearbox centre in Devon, and the gearbox was sent back on a pallet to the Luton auto-gearbox centre.

Plus I moved to Wadebridge in Cornwall which makes meets a bit more selective.

Mutt and Jackie
 
Having been a member of St John Ambulance for 48 years and being a trainer and assessor with them I can honestly say this is one of the best things money can buy.

As said early access means early recovery. The faster equipment is available the greater chance of survival although sadly sometimes they simply cannot help but........................ consider this - you are on a remote site (we often are in North West Highlands) and either a member of your family or simply a person on site or a walker suddenly collapses in front of you. Chances are a cardiac arrest (yes young people can have them as well) and you have access to an AED on site or in your van. Within minutes you're able to act as a First Responder and carry out a life saving procedure in advance of Helicopter or land ambulance which could be anything from 30 mins.............................. This is why we are now seeing more and more of these vital pieces of equipment in leisure centres and other public buildings etc. Prices are also coming down as demand rises. Often they can be found on a cabinet with a digital lock on them (there are some real sad b****ds out there who'd nick 'em if not locked) with a telephone number next to them to call for lock number.

If anyone has the chance to attend a training course for AED's then i would thoroughly recommend attending one. Some are free others sadly not but within the space of about 4 hrs max you'll be competent at using one and in doing CPR. There are one or two different models but all basically the same and really simple to use - you place pads in correct location, machine assesses heart rhythm and if a shock is needed it does it for you. It even tells you to stand back and when to press button. It then instructs you on CPR while it assesses again. If one is not needed then you may simply need to do CPR. before you know it professional help will arrive! As soon as you switch machine on it instructs you on what to do and when.

I have taught 16 years olds to use one in less than half an hour. SJA now teach cadets from the age of 14 on the use. Don't forget if someone collapses, check for an airway and see if they are breathing. If they are not breathing immediately send for help and start CPR - don't waste time checking for a pulse!!!!!!

When we are all looking forward to holidays in remote places I would urge all to go on a simple first aid course; you will never regret it!!!!!!
 
I should add that unfortunately I don't attend any rallies (various reasons) but do always make reasonable donations to Air Ambulance and Mountain Rescue Teams where ever we go, so could only make a small donation; I have used an MRT when attending a collapse I saw happen on Helvelyn. Having practiced CPR for competitions many times in the past this was first time to put into practice - I managed 30 mins in poor weather condition before MRT arrived with doctor with AED - all were extremely professional and that person did survive. Had I lived in one of these areas I would undoubtedly join an MRT.
 
Great idea and one that will be a great asset at meets.
 
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