Attacked at Yelverton 3

[Siimplyloco]

I see nothing wrong with the post. He was a police officer and gave all of the facts as he saw them at the time, as most police officers would. He did not say anything derogatory about 'non white' people, what he did say was that the person was giving his colleagues a hard time, maybe that was where race came into it?

As you say, those are the facts. I don't have to justify (or alter) my version of the facts to anyone, particularly for those who make it their business to exacerbate the racial tension that prevails nowadays. A pity those energies are not directed at more positive social matters.
John

 

[Fazerloz]

Aw come on john you will have been trained in altering the facts. That was said with tongue firmly in cheek so nobody misunderstands.

 

[Siimplyloco]

Aw come on john you will have been trained in altering the facts. That was said with tongue firmly in cheek so nobody misunderstands.

You can bet your life that someone will...:mad1:

 

[Siimplyloco]

SNIP

As with my initial post, many public paid services are poor value for money.

Agreed. I consulted with lots of managers in the public service. It wasn't really their fault, because many senior people in the public service don't seem to know the difference between 'management' and 'administration', and most of the training that they receive - and it's usually not much - is on the job, learning from the other administrative duffers who've been doing it the same way since the Romans invaded Britain!
John

 

[Mullsy]

I work in FE, which is run as a private entity, but is does receive public funding, too. 75% of my time is spend delivering to employed students, 25% generating commercial income, and yes, we are awash with useless managers and, folk at the chalk face who would not be missed.

Speaking about Scottish Police Force, since merge to Police Scotland, service is appalling.

Councils: Certainly my local one could do with a big shake up, problem is, once an employee is in the system, it is hard to get rid of the useless ones, as those with the real local power, are not elected officials.

NHS: Of course not all front line workers are hopeless, I can tell you, from my own personal and recent experiences (still on-going) there are many employed at all levels who should not be there. They are liabilities and, there is no accountability within the NHS. Look at past whistle blowers, see what has happened to some, who have lost their job for caring.

As with my initial post, many public paid services are poor value for money.

Edit: some words from an ordinary taxpaying punter about Scottish health Service.

"The Scottish Health Board is in SO much trouble - poor staffing ability, poor management, poor supervision all contribute to the problem and the overpaid useless managers must be weeded out. Having said that - having visited hospitals quite a lot recently the amount of gaggling nurses and attendants is worrying and I have never seen so many staff wandering about with cups of tea in their hands. What happened to the 'morning break' lunch and 'afternoon break ? is that a thing of the past ? I certainly don't feel confident walking into a hospital these days."

Lots of Scots I talk to say the same with regards Police Scotland.

My wife recently took the NHS Mars scheme (mutually agreed redundancy scheme).There was a clause regarding whistleblowing but this has since been proven as unenforceable.The management is the real problem.Her boss signed off the Mars applicatons,the idea being,your job would not be filled after your departure.The manager accepted her own Mars application,pocketed over 80k,then after the 12 months ban from working in the same NHS trust,is back doing the same job.
In effect,she went on two round the world cruises in a paid year off work.

 

[alcam]

I see nothing wrong with the post. He was a police officer and gave all of the facts as he saw them at the time, as most police officers would. He did not say anything derogatory about 'non white' people, what he did say was that the person was giving his colleagues a hard time, maybe that was where race came into it?

Deary me , how sad

 

[Robmac]

Deary me , how sad

Deary me, that's rich!

 

[Obanboy666]

Lots of Scots I talk to say the same with regards Police Scotland.

My wife recently took the NHS Mars scheme (mutually agreed redundancy scheme).There was a clause regarding whistleblowing but this has since been proven as unenforceable.The management is the real problem.Her boss signed off the Mars applicatons,the idea being,your job would not be filled after your departure.The manager accepted her own Mars application,pocketed over 80k,then after the 12 months ban from working in the same NHS trust,is back doing the same job.
In effect,she went on two round the world cruises in a paid year off work.

Happens in private industry just the same.
When I was at Black & Decker they had a 'clean out' every 5 years or so. My friend was the manager in the stores, took his redundancy and straight onto his pension as he was 55 years old. Had his 33 years in so his pension was 66% of his salary.
Back doing the same job 4 months later, got another year out of it on the same salary he used to be on.

 

[Obanboy666]

I work in FE, which is run as a private entity, but is does receive public funding, too. 75% of my time is spend delivering to employed students, 25% generating commercial income, and yes, we are awash with useless managers and, folk at the chalk face who would not be missed.

Speaking about Scottish Police Force, since merge to Police Scotland, service is appalling.

Councils: Certainly my local one could do with a big shake up, problem is, once an employee is in the system, it is hard to get rid of the useless ones, as those with the real local power, are not elected officials.

NHS: Of course not all front line workers are hopeless, I can tell you, from my own personal and recent experiences (still on-going) there are many employed at all levels who should not be there. They are liabilities and, there is no accountability within the NHS. Look at past whistle blowers, see what has happened to some, who have lost their job for caring.

As with my initial post, many public paid services are poor value for money.

Edit: some words from an ordinary taxpaying punter about Scottish health Service.

"The Scottish Health Board is in SO much trouble - poor staffing ability, poor management, poor supervision all contribute to the problem and the overpaid useless managers must be weeded out. Having said that - having visited hospitals quite a lot recently the amount of gaggling nurses and attendants is worrying and I have never seen so many staff wandering about with cups of tea in their hands. What happened to the 'morning break' lunch and 'afternoon break ? is that a thing of the past ? I certainly don't feel confident walking into a hospital these days."

Agree with most of what you state. My late wife was as frustrated as you sound when she was working in the NHS. She would often reminisce about the 'good old days' when a matron ruled the roost without the tiers of management that now seems to be the norm.

 

[alcam]

You are absolutely correct I see no good in racism or police brutality . As for complete anonymity , I know you've got a motorbike you don't know if I have one or not . I do see lots of good in the world , unfortunately I also see some very nasty stuff posted on here .
I am a very happy individual who always makes a point of avoiding personal attacks , I am not going to make an exception with a pompous old windbag like you

 

[Obanboy666]

Very good point ! Forgot all about that.

 

[izwozral]

Happens in private industry just the same.
When I was at Black & Decker they had a 'clean out' every 5 years or so. My friend was the manager in the stores, took his redundancy and straight onto his pension as he was 55 years old. Had his 33 years in so his pension was 66% of his salary.
Back doing the same job 4 months later, got another year out of it on the same salary he used to be on.

I am so disappointed with you OblongBoy[sign of the devil]. Why did you bring the racist card into your post? You could have said a famous drill manufacturer or adjustable work bench maestro's but no, you had to use the racist card didn't you. You deserve all the abuse coming your way unless you promise to flay your skin with cats tongue until you resemble a Red Indian - oh crap, I can't say that canI?

 

[Siimplyloco]

Lovely stuff! That'll get the PC Brigade going. Keep it up!
John

 

[twosugars]

Meanwhile...

Unfortunately, the old Raf Harrowbeer airfield site (Yelverton 3) is not a particularly safe area. The police warned me off there back in Feb 2013. They said the airfield is where the joyriders of Plymouth tend to burn out stolen cars. The earth banks of the dispersal pens hide them from the road. Warning posted on here in may 2013

Link to thread here, http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/forums/devon/28823-yelverton-devon.html

 

[Canalsman]

Thanks for the extra information - I have decided to remove it from the Wild Camp POIs ...

 

[n brown]

Happens in private industry just the same.
When I was at Black & Decker they had a 'clean out' every 5 years or so. My friend was the manager in the stores, took his redundancy and straight onto his pension as he was 55 years old. Had his 33 years in so his pension was 66% of his salary.
Back doing the same job 4 months later, got another year out of it on the same salary he used to be on.

just out of interest- your remark about a clean out reminded me of Black and Decker opp Heathrow. some of the workers would nick power tools,and on their way out,they would round a corner by a pond and see the security guards waiting by the gate.many bottled out at this point and chucked the tools into the pond.when they drained it there were hundreds of tools in there !

 

[Siimplyloco]

Thanks for the extra information - I have decided to remove it from the Wild Camp POIs ...

Good idea: we don't want to get sued, do we!

 

[Obanboy666]

just out of interest- your remark about a clean out reminded me of Black and Decker opp Heathrow. some of the workers would nick power tools,and on their way out,they would round a corner by a pond and see the security guards waiting by the gate.many bottled out at this point and chucked the tools into the pond.when they drained it there were hundreds of tools in there !

I spent 4 months working in Moltano Italy shutting the Dewalt facility and moving production to the UK.
For the last 2 weeks the Italian workers basically took out product everyday, no one said a word !
Some of the high end kit was retailing for £700-£800. The total money involved must have been in the region of £100,000.
No one dared to say a word, senior American management were not allowed on site, they were almost lynched when they first arrived and ended up overseeing the shutdown from an office 15 mile away.
I personnelly had no problems as I was viewed as no different to them and not senior management.
Versus what the UK workforce redundancy payments were when the UK facility finally shut the Italians were paid a fortune.

 

[alcam]

Je suits desolee . I do appreciate your comments and fully understand people actually answering questions/points and being brief is just not your cup of tea

 

[Siimplyloco]

Je suits desolee . I do appreciate your comments and fully understand people actually answering questions/points and being brief is just not your cup of tea

Je suis désolé...:dog: