Another anti camper council?

But that is specifically under s.7 of that act, for an alleged offence under S.6 of that Act.

Does that Act. cover PSPOs?

The purpose of my post was more to dispel the myth that if approached by authorised enforcement officers there is a legal obligation to disclose name and address

Totally different but still authorised officers other legislation also makes it an offence not to divulge information i.e s172 Road Traffic Act Environment agency fishing without rod licence

I don't know the specifics of PSPO' s however considering how legislation is drafted (eg above) I would be surprised if it were not an offence

Channa
 
Section 6 relates to offences detailed in sections 3 and 4, which relate to offering vehicles for sale and repairing vehicles in the road respectively. Nothing there about overnighting contrary to any PSPO!
 
Section 6 relates to offences detailed in sections 3 and 4, which relate to offering vehicles for sale and repairing vehicles in the road respectively. Nothing there about overnighting contrary to any PSPO!

Even if there is a requirement to give name and address, what can an Enforcement Officer do if one refuses - he has no power of arrest. He could call the police, but if one is long-gone if/when they respond are they going to put out an 'All ports' alert - I think not.

Maybe my refusal to give my name might by some seem unreasoable, but then so are the draftings of these PSPOs.

It strikes me that there is a very undemocratic process going on here- I will expand:-



We the voters/taxpayers vote in a Government in Westminster.

That Government drafts enabling legislation empowering Local Councils to enact PSPOs, probably partly to save Parliament the trouble.

The Local Councils have little expertise, even within their legal departments, in drafting legislation and often come out with nonsense.

Much of the PSPO legislation is unenforcable.

The Local Council do not have enough Officers qualified to enforce.

The Local Council then outsource to private companies, which they probably do not properly brief nor train, to enforce the PSPO.

To my mind this long chain breaks the Principles of UK democracy under which Parliament is the Supreme Legislator and Overseer of the operation of the Legal System.

Geoff
 
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What part is unenforceable in these? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be smart this is new to me so I don't know. I have seen the 'Call the Bailiff's' type programs on the box where folks are in much trouble for ignoring various types of parking tickets so I would err on the side of caution if I got one.

If there is an easy way to know what is or isn't enforceable I would appreciate knowing
 
I find the most worrying part of this to be that you can easily and inadvertently acquire a criminal record by breaching a PSPO. This can have many consequences, just an example being difficulty in travel abroad to places such as USA.
 
I find the most worrying part of this to be that you can easily and inadvertently acquire a criminal record by breaching a PSPO. This can have many consequences, just an example being difficulty in travel abroad to places such as USA.

Way things are at the moment,
NOT being able to visit Trumpville MIGHT be no bad thing ;-)
 
I find the most worrying part of this to be that you can easily and inadvertently acquire a criminal record by breaching a PSPO. This can have many consequences, just an example being difficulty in travel abroad to places such as USA.

There was a case on Panorama where a woman was issued with a fine for fly-tipping outside her own home after she put her recycling out on the wrong date during the Christmas holidays.Worth a criminal record that one

Country is going to the dogs with Clowncils more and more desperate to raise funds by fines.A fifty fifty split with their ill gotten gains with Kingdom
 
My other half saw this on facebook...they don't like missing out on their council tax...do they

Rother District Council passed the PSPO public space protection order to ban sleeping OR habitating ANY motor vehicle on the highway or public space between 11pm and 7am starting 1st July 2018. Rother covers Rye in the East to close to Pevensey in the West up to wadhurst/Ticehurst in the north. 200 sq miles. We are trying to appeal for everyone, full timers, holiday makers, lorry drivers. It includes all ! Via the Local Government ombudsmen.

Rother lies within the area of East Sussex County Council and some responsibilities will be shared between them. Parking is likely one of them; if they follow the norm then one will be responsible for on-street parking regulation and the other for off-street parking. But only one of them will be responsible for enforcement.

East Sussex County Council is having financial difficulties and is cutting services to the legal minimum East Sussex County Council cuts services to 'legal minimum' - BBC News

... and also in their Wiki page East Sussex County Council - Wikipedia

East Sussex County Council plans to cut services to a bare legal minimum, to avoid bankruptcy (they published the plans round July 2018). The council said that unless funding from central government increases, a core offer {not giving services to many elderly people who would otherwise qualify} would be the most services it could afford to provide. Unless local authority finances improve radically, even this very basic level of local authority service may be unaffordable by 2021.[3]

And yet ... there's always money to repress motorhome parking.
 

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