5 Minutes charging batteries.

[colinm]

Interesting observation .... " occasionally there will be a good reason, but every day the A1(for example) is full of people driving somewhere other than where they live just to work."
The line "occasionally there will be a good reason, but ..." is maybe not that well matched to "....just to work".
Or is it as if all these people are thinking "ah, what the hell. I know. I'll just go to work today. might as well". Fools, I know.

The observation is that many people choose to live north up the A1 and commute south, so every morning the traffic is heading southbound, every night the traffic is heading north, they choose to buy a cheaper house then spend their money on commuting to work. Prior to CV-19 many tradesmen did the 40 mile drive into London chasing the money, a couple of times a year I might have to travel for work into central London, if I had to drive, then the traffic jam starts at Stevenage and goes right through to central London, if I didn't need the van, then on the train it would be standing room only from Hitchin.

 

[Fazerloz]

I can see a deliberate staggered development of EV's much like tablets and 'phones. Whatever makes the most profit and the wealthy will go for the latest 'must haves' as soon as they come out. Us ordinary folk may have to stay a step behind with their cast offs.

They have to string you along with tec advances so you will change car every 2 years as normal, sales men need there fix, sorry pay.

I can see that happening and does when you have a monopoly on something. But wouldn't it would take all the major car manufacturers to collaborate to accomplish this. That I don't see happening and the Chinese would readily step in to any opportunity in the market.

 

[Bigshug]

You think there are going to be farmers?

Yes, someone has to grow the quinoa and soya, cos we will all be vegans by then.

just a thought about a plant based diet. The plants remove the CO2 from the atmosphere, if we eat all the plants it will make climate change worse!! I am doing my bit for the planet by eating as many methane producing cows as quickly as I can.

 

[wildebus]

The observation is that many people choose to live north up the A1 and commute south, so every morning the traffic is heading southbound, every night the traffic is heading north, they choose to buy a cheaper house then spend their money on commuting to work. Prior to CV-19 many tradesmen did the 40 mile drive into London chasing the money, a couple of times a year I might have to travel for work into central London, if I had to drive, then the traffic jam starts at Stevenage and goes right through to central London, if I didn't need the van, then on the train it would be standing room only from Hitchin.

It's the idea that is apparently nothing but a "choice" I find amusing. For some it is, for many/most it is not.

I used to get the train in to London quite frequently (and possibly on the same line as you by the sound of it?). Train from St Albans to Kings Cross - 8 trains an hour so just turned up without worrying about the timetable and used to catch one after around 9:30 to avoid the rush and get a seat.
If driving to the office, I'd either leave home around 6:00 to minimise the M1/M25/M3 gridlock, or leave home after 10:00. Coming back be similar - either leave office around 3:30 or wait until 7:00 rather than sit in traffic for ages.

 

[trevskoda]

I can see that happening and does when you have a monopoly on something. But wouldn't it would take all the major car manufacturers to collaborate to accomplish this. That I don't see happening and the Chinese would readily step in to any opportunity in the market.

Folk here change their cars every 2 years or so, we have the highest sales of new units in europe, few here can or do fix cars and it being always raining and dark people dont want to be out pushing them, then there is the I want to be one up on next door thing.

 

[trevskoda]

All this talk of driving hundreds of miles a day, here about 6 miles a day if lucky, school run shops boozer.

 

[ricc]

All this talk of driving hundreds of miles a day, here about 6 miles a day if lucky, school run shops boozer.

either im going senile or a few weeks ago you were claiming your mrs drove hundreds of miles a week on multiple shopping trips

 

[Nabsim]

Whats the point of garages turning to all electric charging points? Who would want to pay garage prices for a charge? Surely you just need a car park not a garage, if you have a tesla isnt it free charging for life?

 

[colinm]

Whats the point of garages turning to all electric charging points? Who would want to pay garage prices for a charge? Surely you just need a car park not a garage, if you have a tesla isnt it free charging for life?

I think charging for life has been dropped by Tesla.
As for 'filling stations', they will no doubt reinvent themselves, possibly as coffee shops with charge while you park, or some such.

 

[Tonybvi]

Whats the point of garages turning to all electric charging points? Who would want to pay garage prices for a charge? Surely you just need a car park not a garage, if you have a tesla isnt it free charging for life?

Tesla only now offers free charging for the duration of you owning the car (ie it is no longer transferred with the car when it changes ownership) and even this depends on the deal available at the time of purchase. I am lucky In that I managed to get mine with free supercharging but the deals are generally available when Tesla want to boost end of quarter sales.

 

[Owlhouse]

Interesting article in todays Guardian.

Electric car batteries with five-minute charging times produced

Exclusive: first factory production means recharging could soon be as fast as filling up petrol or diesel vehicles

www.theguardian.com

First of all I don’t trust anything the Guardian reports.
Present lithium batteries can take a fast charge but it really hammers the life of them. I for one would not like to have to replace a Tesla battery - it weighs half a ton and must cost a fortune. Then there is the environmental cost of its replacement/recycling? No-one has ever mentioned that.
New types of battery are always being touted but until they become viable (which is years away) I will be steering clear of EVs.
I will admit they have their place if you only do short trips but when the cost difference between an EV and ICE vehicle there is no advantage having an EV.
Before anyone jumps down my throat about the environmental impact of ‘fossil fuel’ there are plenty of studies of the environmental impact of EVs that show the manufacturing and disposal of them is far greater than than you think and for some EVs the through life impact is greater. These are real data driven studies and not someone’s ‘garbage in- garbage out’ computer models.
Yes - I am climate change skeptic so throw any insults you wish, I know with my background where the truth is and to me it’s not with the Guardian or BBC.