£38.60 a night

Off to Dawlish for a week and looked at breaking up the trip with the new puppy. Don't think she will manage the whole trip all in one go. Had a look at the Caravan Club in Bristol. £38.60 a night for the two of us mid week. They have to be having a laugh.
To be fair they can fill city sites easily 12 months of the year.
The C&MC site Rowntree Park in York is booked a year in advance and would cost you even more.

If you are a member you would have got 20% discount.
But the Baltic Wharf site is normally full even in winter.
Its well situated next to the river Avon, and many of the Brunel attractions.
 
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I reckon these sites are going to massively go up in price this year when the owners start realising just how much its costing them. Anything with hookup will spiral especially when it all sky rockets later in the year and there is no government help. Im on a CL right now in the Lake District. £15 a night including EHU. I am trying to use the electric as little as possible but with the heating on most of the time when we are in the van I bet they will be lucky to be breaking even. Those sites without EHU will be getting ever more popular in the near future as will solar panels I bet.
 
I reckon these sites are going to massively go up in price this year when the owners start realising just how much its costing them. Anything with hookup will spiral especially when it all sky rockets later in the year and there is no government help. Im on a CL right now in the Lake District. £15 a night including EHU. I am trying to use the electric as little as possible but with the heating on most of the time when we are in the van I bet they will be lucky to be breaking even. Those sites without EHU will be getting ever more popular in the near future as will solar panels I bet.
When you think about it Barry, they charge less for winter when it costs them more for EHU. Also the site we were on in Braithwaite Village was only about one quarter full. Yet it was fully staffed. But were you are right now is not sustainable, and £15 a night simply cannot continue. For £22 a night we got first class facilities. I posted photos on here. They were running at a loss in winter according to the warden. I have booked 10 sites on CCC sites Barry in August in varying city and rural locations. Over three weeks. Half with EHU for an average of £32 a night. But sites in popular city centres are always expensive for obvious reasons. Also the site in question, the land is rented from Bristol City Council, who charge plenty. This site is on a 6 month rolling contract due to the fact housing will be being built on it and the site will close eventually.
 
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When you think about it Barry, they charge less for winter when it costs them more for EHU. Also the site we were on in Braithwaite Village was only about one quarter full. Yet it was fully staffed. But were you are right now is not sustainable, and £15 a night simply cannot continue. For £22 a night we got first class facilities. I posted photos on here. They were running at a loss in winter according to the warden.

It’s not much different to the rest of the accommodation sector in the UK. It’s always been like this, except we’re now facing energy bills on steroids.

Self-catering in particular was always a difficult one through the winter months when it’s cold & dark and more heat & light is needed by default, therefore eats into any profit.

But it also used to be the case that such businesses always struggled to get custom out of season in the colder months. I would reckon that situation has changed slightly due to the pandemic & ****** (I’m not being political here! 🙄 ) and the increased demand for ‘staycations’.

The C&MC have whacked prices right up, but there will always be folk with sufficient income to absorb the increases and will still book onto their sites. Although I understand from inside info (friends who work for C&MC) that bookings have dropped a fair bit on certain sites since last year and could well continue to decline heading into 2023.

Central sites will always be in demand regardless. It isn’t always just tourists who make use of them. I understand there has also been a dramatic reduction in foreign visitors too, don’t know how that has impacted, or if indigenous visitors have made up for that particular loss in trade.
 
It’s not much different to the rest of the accommodation sector in the UK. It’s always been like this, except we’re now facing energy bills on steroids.

Self-catering in particular was always a difficult one through the winter months when it’s cold & dark and more heat & light is needed by default, therefore eats into any profit.

But it also used to be the case that such businesses always struggled to get custom out of season in the colder months. I would reckon that situation has changed slightly due to the pandemic & ****** (I’m not being political here! 🙄 ) and the increased demand for ‘staycations’.

The C&MC have whacked prices right up, but there will always be folk with sufficient income to absorb the increases and will still book onto their sites. Although I understand from inside info (friends who work for C&MC) that bookings have dropped a fair bit on certain sites since last year and could well continue to decline heading into 2023.

Central sites will always be in demand regardless. It isn’t always just tourists who make use of them. I understand there has also been a dramatic reduction in foreign visitors too, don’t know how that has impacted, or if indigenous visitors have made up for that particular loss in trade.
Yes the C&MC always charge plenty, hence why for our long 3 week trip I stuck to CCC sites, which I find more reasonable. But the site chosen by the OP Baltic Wharf is one of their most expensive, and I am surprised he managed to get a booking at short notice. What really irritates me about the C&MC is they have hardly any non EHU pitches. If they are so concerned about the cost of EHU then why not offer more non EHU pitches. Also in summer we hardly use any leccy. To be honest this may well be my last year with them, I have no time for them whatsoever.
 
Yes the C&MC always charge plenty, hence why for our long 3 week trip I stuck to CCC sites, which I find more reasonable. But the site chosen by the OP Baltic Wharf is one of their most expensive, and I am surprised he managed to get a booking at short notice. What really irritates me about the C&MC is they have hardly any non EHU pitches. If they are so concerned about the cost of EHU then why not offer more non EHU pitches. Also in summer we hardly use any leccy. To be honest this may well be my last year with them, I have no time for them whatsoever.

My friends don’t have much time for them either and this may well be their last year working for them - but to be fair they have been saying that to me every year for the last 18 years!!! 🤣🤪
 
When you think about it Barry, they charge less for winter when it costs them more for EHU. Also the site we were on in Braithwaite Village was only about one quarter full. Yet it was fully staffed. But were you are right now is not sustainable, and £15 a night simply cannot continue. For £22 a night we got first class facilities. I posted photos on here. They were running at a loss in winter according to the warden. I have booked 10 sites on CCC sites Barry in August in varying city and rural locations. Over three weeks. Half with EHU for an average of £32 a night. But sites in popular city centres are always expensive for obvious reasons. Also the site in question, the land is rented from Bristol City Council, who charge plenty. This site is on a 6 month rolling contract due to the fact housing will be being built on it and the site will close eventually.

I only use CL sites and Ive noticed one or two of them have put their prices up in Winter now. I wonder how sustainable they will be as it wont take them long to realise just how much its costing them. I reckon we may start to lose them. If you remember the lady who runs the lovely CL at Kings Cross on Arran was talking about closing it. I tried to talk her out of it but she reckoned its just not viable anymore without raising the price to more than she believed people would pay. I had a similar conversation with a woman who ran a small site in Cornwall. She told me she had put their EHU price up to a fiver or something and her customers were outraged about it apparently!

Its not really an issue for us as we generally tour early to late summer. We only needed hookup last year from October.
 
We very rarely need/want/use ehu.
So we prefer C&CC sites without.
If EHU is included we use it but only minimally (unless it is cold. We will use a low power fan heater ≤500watts but in conjunction with our gas heating
If ehu is extra we do not use.
However some sites include ehu anyway and so I suspect such sites will cost more than we like to pay !
Yes, all their costs are increasing and I do not begrudge reasonable increases !
They have to make a living and if not they will close !
The bigger commercial sites will inevitably charge what they can.
But we have the choice.
Unfortunately this is why many of us choose France/Spain and similar.
Last summer we decamped to France for 5 weeks...
Cheaper overnights being just one of the factors !
 
Im on a CL right now in the Lake District. £15 a night including EHU. I am trying to use the electric as little as possible but with the heating on most of the time when we are in the van I bet they will be lucky to be breaking even.
I keep seeing this type of post I live in a 3 bedroom house totally all Electric 6 Electric rads on 07.30 - 22.00 all set to 20° At the coldest temp this winter it was £17.70 normal average is £8 - £10 a day thats cooking washer/dryer when needed. How can EHU cost more and not be a Rip Off
 
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I keep seeing this type of post I live in a 3 bedroom house totally all Electric 6 Electric rads on 07.30 - 22.00 all set to 20° At the coldest temp this winter it was £17.70 normal average is £8 - £10 a day thats cooking washer/dryer when needed. How can EHU cost more and not be a Rip Off
Well first your leky is heavily subsidised by the government. without that subsidy your daily cost would be a lot higher probably around £15-20 a day.
Depending on your circumstances you will have had £67 a month for 6 months paid by the government, and the winter full allowance was increased from £200 per household to £500.
Businesses are not getting anywhere near this amount of help, some are getting virtually none.
Also campsites use of power is not limited to just EHU, the whole site toilet blocks, offices, public and private areas have to be heated also.

But hey, I tend to agree. They are ripping us off for one main reason. In Summer when the campsites are all open and at their busiest most of us don't want or need their EHU. To be honest I only take it occasionally for my wife. Like most women she is particular about her hair and needs power for her hairdryer and straighteners. Why don't they offer non EHU as standard, and add extra for those who want or need it. So whilst I agree that some are ripping us off, there's no doubt that costs have increased. But here's the 50,000 dollar question. When prices come back down, will they reduce their charges. I think we both know the answer, and thats when the real rip off will occur.
 
I keep seeing this type of post I live in a 3 bedroom house totally all Electric 6 Electric rads on 07.30 - 22.00 all set to 20° At the coldest temp this winter it was £17.70 normal average is £8 - £10 a day thats cooking washer/dryer when needed. How can EHU cost more and not be a Rip Off
Simply do the maths. Even if on 1kw/phr at a average of 34p/khr thats £8.16 per day. Many users plug in and turn the heating and hot water on and never turn it off simply because they have paid for it. Even opening windows rather than turning the heating off or down and thats without using anything else.
 
But here's the 50,000 dollar question. When prices come back down, will they reduce their charges. I think we both know the answer, and thats when the real rip off will occur.
What on earth makes you think prices will come back down.
 
What on earth makes you think prices will come back down.
Were did you read this, or do you mean gas and electric. Most analysts reckon in 2024 Things will start to return to normal

But no one is 100%, it depends greatly on what's happening in Ukraine, and elsewhere.

But what on earth makes you think these prices are sustainable forever.
 
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You wrote it post #12. You wrote " When prices" implying you think they will come down. As against " If prices come down".
 
You wrote it post #12. You wrote " When prices" implying you think they will come down. As against " If prices come down".
They will eventually, these prices are not sustainable in the medium term.

and when they do will the campsites lose their prices……. No.
 
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Were did you read this, or do you mean gas and electric
They will eventually, these prices are not sustainable in the medium term.

Who are they not sustainable for?

I honestly don't see a slow down or a reversal in the price of energy, but on the other hand I haven't noticed any particularly heavy cutting back in spending on heating, or in general spending for a certain section of the population. Not yet anyway (I include some of my friends in that statement). Other friends who are not so well off are sitting in their freezing cold houses muffled up to the eyeballs with all kinds extra clothing etc. They're not complaining though, just getting on with it like most people do.

The energy costs certainly won't be sustainable for some businesses, many of which have already gone bust, or will be going bust this year. And it's pretty dire for those households on low incomes, but I doubt whether it will be noticed all that much by some households, despite all the hoo-ha.

This is still a wealthy country and there's a lot of money still being earned in certain sectors, and we have a lot of comfortably off pensioners (a fair few use this forum). Cafes and coffee shops are booming like nobody's business and the odd trip I have made lately to local large retail parks (Yuk! Hate shopping) you were very hard pushed to find a parking spot. But there's a lot of high streets in some parts of the country starting to look very gappy, like a mouthful of teeth but with more and more teeth going missing. Especially up here in the North East, but then we've always suffered here more than most in an economic downturn 🤷‍♀️
 

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