Scotland road saftey limits

tribute11 · 2024-12-21T11:34:46+0000

trevskoda · 2024-12-21T11:52:40+0000

Looks like campers are not allowed on our roads.

alcam · 2024-12-21T12:35:52+0000

tribute11 said:
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Single carriageway 50 limit , over 3.05 tons news to me .

Robmac · 2024-12-21T12:44:40+0000

alcam said:
Single carriageway 50 limit , over 3.05 tons news to me .

That's unladen though which I think most 3.5 tonne vans comply with?

Fisherman · 2024-12-21T12:45:39+0000

alcam said:
Single carriageway 50 limit , over 3.05 tons news to me .

This applies to the unladen weight not the gross weight

colinm · 2024-12-21T12:47:35+0000

alcam said:
Single carriageway 50 limit , over 3.05 tons news to me .

Has been this for as long as I can remember.

colinm · 2024-12-21T12:51:56+0000

Fisherman said:
This applies to the unladen weight not the gross weight

I was going to say it is quite clearly stated in the OP, but it's stated in a strange way, WTH is "maximum unladen weight", surely it's purely the unladen weight which is a single figure for any single vehicle.

Fisherman · 2024-12-21T13:19:49+0000

colinm said:
I was going to say it is quite clearly stated in the OP, but it's stated in a strange way, WTH is "maximum unladen weight", surely it's purely the unladen weight which is a single figure for any single vehicle.

The maximum unladen weight of 3.05t determines the speed limit you can drive, over the maximum and your max speed is reduced by 10mph.
This is how it’s described on government website.

The maximum unladen weight of a motorhome or motor caravan is 3.05 tonnes, and the speed limits for these vehicles are:

Sorry Colin but it seems clear to me.

Wooie1958 · 2024-12-21T13:21:59+0000

alcam said:
Single carriageway 50 limit , over 3.05 tons news to me .

Keep up dear.

It's been that for a long time so maybe it's time you read the Highway Code then you are not breaking anymore rules.

Fisherman · 2024-12-21T13:27:44+0000

Also whilst on the subject of driving in Scotland, remember rightly or wrongly, our drink driving limits are much lower than England and Wales. So do be careful.

alcam · 2024-12-21T13:28:27+0000

Robmac said:
That's unladen though which I think most 3.5 tonne vans comply with?

Fisherman said:
This applies to the unladen weight not the gross weight

Ah , must learn to read !

colinm said:
Has been this for as long as I can remember.

I'm sure you are right . Still news to Mr Dopey here

colinm · 2024-12-21T13:30:06+0000

Fisherman said:
The maximum unladen weight of 3.05t determines the speed limit you can drive, over the maximum and your max speed is reduced by 10mph.
This is how it’s described on government website.

The maximum unladen weight of a motorhome or motor caravan is 3.05 tonnes, and the speed limits for these vehicles are:

My point is it should say "not exceeding 3.05t unladen weight", and "exceeding 3.05t unladen weight", using 'maximum' makes no sense to me.

Fisherman · 2024-12-21T13:31:16+0000

alcam said:
Ah , must learn to read !

I'm sure you are right . Still news to Mr Dopey here

None of us know everything, we all have gaps, and sometimes we simply forget.
It’s all part of being one of these human thingyamagig thingys.

Fisherman · 2024-12-21T13:31:56+0000

colinm said:
My point is it should say "not exceeding 3.05t unladen weight", and "exceeding 3.05t unladen weight", using 'maximum' makes no sense to me.

Sorry Colin, I reckon you are actually now confusing what was clear as day.

colinm · 2024-12-21T13:36:50+0000

Fisherman said:
Sorry Colin, I reckon you are actually now confusing what was clear as day.

AFAIK when the unladen weight is determined, it is a fixed figure, there is no 'maximum', it's pure bad English, and not spoke like what I do (said in Ernie Wise accent)
And while I'm in a grumpy mood, these speeds are not the 'safe' speeds to drive at on any given road, they are the legal limits.

alcam · 2024-12-21T13:54:56+0000

Fisherman said:
Colin none of us know everything, we all have gaps, and sometimes we simply forget.
It’s all part of being one of these human thingyamagig thingys.

Me no Colin

mark61 · 2024-12-21T14:02:43+0000

I'm wondering if we can fined a guinea pig to test this, using the fact that their MH has a minimum unladen weight ?

Any volunteers?

Fisherman · 2024-12-21T14:05:04+0000

mark61 said:
I'm wondering if we can fined a guinea pig to test this, using the fact that their MH has a minimum unladen weight ?
Any volunteers?

Trust you

Fisherman · 2024-12-21T14:05:43+0000

alcam said:
Me no Colin

Se what I mean

mark61 · 2024-12-21T14:10:55+0000

While I'm at it, I wondering why you shouldn't feel pressurised into increasing your speed this Christmas.

Was it ok last Christmas, and will it be ok next Christmas?

Scotland road saftey limits

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