How rude

[Biggarmac]

How many on here have bikes? The bike riding uphill will not pull over if he has got momentum going as it would be difficult to get going again. How long are you going to be stuck behind him? Two minutes - calm down dear.

 

[Wully]

I'd never ride a bike on the road there's too many nutters like me driving cars trucks mhs tractors buses combines for a living not just out on a jolly there all nuts it's human nature the bigger you are on the road the more you think you have power over the smaller guy but bikers lately have become more brazen wandering all over the road at 10 mph but they'll always come of worst when it comes to an accident

 

[martinmartin]

When you have been unnesesserely held up by a cyclist dont forget to clear your windscreen as you overtake them.

 

[alcam]

The law says you must not over take on or approaching a junction so passat man was in the wrong but cyclists are a pain we've just had 2 mls of cycle path built and they still ride in the road holding up large queues of traffic

Maybe why some (?) countries have reduced speed limits at junctions ?

 

[CarlandHels]

I'd never ride a bike on the road there's too many nutters like me driving cars trucks mhs tractors buses combines for a living not just out on a jolly there all nuts it's human nature the bigger you are on the road the more you think you have power over the smaller guy but bikers lately have become more brazen wandering all over the road at 10 mph but they'll always come of worst when it comes to an accident

They might come of worse in an accident, but if they don't damage themselves (I do NOT want anyone one to get hurt) but if they do damage our vehicles we come off worse, well our wallets do.
A lot of them seem to think they have the power on the roads, after all if they don't move over to allow us to pass safely and they get over taken but think that we are to close to them, they video us, report us and it's us that get a fine and possibly points on our licence. But yet we can't prove they are at fault or prove they are riding without due care and attention as they can't be recognised. A lot of them take this to there advantage on the road.

I have ridden motorbikes for a number of years and have had the pleasure of being on a 60mph road going round a corner and what was there but a clump of cyclists of at least 15 in a group having a nice chat. I was doing around 50mph and they wont of been doing 10mph, so who would of been at fault? Me with a legal registered, taxed and insured vehicle doing under the speed limit, or them having a chat while enjoying a thoughtless ride out on an untaxed and uninsured cycles?

I really dont have a problem with cyclist in general, but more and more seem to think they are untouchable. A little consideration on all parts would be great..

When I drive on the roads if i am holding anyone up in the motorhome or even the car, i will always find a safe place and allow others to pass me and nearly always get a wave as a Thankyou. Much better than getting 2 fingers or other signals thrown towards you.

 

[Channa]

They might come of worse in an accident, but if they don't damage themselves (I do NOT want anyone one to get hurt) but if they do damage our vehicles we come off worse, well our wallets do.
A lot of them seem to think they have the power on the roads, after all if they don't move over to allow us to pass safely and they get over taken but think that we are to close to them, they video us, report us and it's us that get a fine and possibly points on our licence. But yet we can't prove they are at fault or prove they are riding without due care and attention as they can't be recognised. A lot of them take this to there advantage on the road.

I have ridden motorbikes for a number of years and have had the pleasure of being on a 60mph road going round a corner and what was there but a clump of cyclists of at least 15 in a group having a nice chat. I was doing around 50mph and they wont of been doing 10mph, so who would of been at fault? Me with a legal registered, taxed and insured vehicle doing under the speed limit, or them having a chat while enjoying a thoughtless ride out on an untaxed and uninsured cycles?

I really dont have a problem with cyclist in general, but more and more seem to think they are untouchable. A little consideration on all parts would be great..

When I drive on the roads if i am holding anyone up in the motorhome or even the car, i will always find a safe place and allow others to pass me and nearly always get a wave as a Thankyou. Much better than getting 2 fingers or other signals thrown towards you.

Simple, you would be at fault, part of good driving is something called anticipation !!

Reading some of the comments ( not particularly yours ) What a hypocritical set of twits some people here are. The intolerance shown towards other road users incredible. and entrenched attitudes ....yet someone will bleat today about intolerance to motorhomers...Two way street, Having had a motorhome ( until recently nicked) I have seen some atrocious driving particularly the highlands people ambling along not a care for those locals following and oblivious to the fact what a passing place means

Channa

 

[Byronic]

I'd never ride a bike on the road there's too many nutters like me driving cars trucks mhs tractors buses combines for a living not just out on a jolly there all nuts it's human nature the bigger you are on the road the more you think you have power over the smaller guy

That's a sweeping generalisation.
I drive a 7 tonne m/home, the smaller ie more vulnerable the road user I encounter, the more
care and consideration I take. I would suggest that many others driving large vehicles think
similarly. I wouldn't want the death or injury of someone else on my conscience for the rest
of my life. I always drive with that thought in mind.

 

[Fazerloz]

I have ridden motorbikes for a number of years and have had the pleasure of being on a 60mph road going round a corner and what was there but a clump of cyclists of at least 15 in a group having a nice chat. I was doing around 50mph and they wont of been doing 10mph, so who would of been at fault? Me with a legal registered, taxed and insured vehicle doing under the speed limit, or them having a chat while enjoying a thoughtless ride out on an untaxed and uninsured cycles?

Very easy to answer. YOU and if you need to ask that question you need to take a refresher course.

 

[harrow]

I was coming to a cross roads junction, going up the minor road intending to turn left. This is a junction I use pretty much every day.

I could see right was clear, but you can't see left so easily. I eased carefully out, looking left, and had to stand on the brakes straightaway. Luckily I was hardly moving because coming towards me, on the wrong side of the road, was a bloke in a Passat estate overtaking two cyclists. Speed is hard to assess in these situations but I'd be surprised if he was within the 30 limit.

But you know what really rankled? As he sped past, near enough for me to see the stubble on his chin, I could see he was shouting at me. I'm pretty sure he said "effing look before you pull out you w@nker".

Nice.

I am glad you did not have an accident.

I know it leaves you feeling bad, you are trying your best, but someone else is calling you an idiot.

All the driving where I live is like this, in little india.

It put me off driving, I don't enjoy it anymore.

It's the people, there is nothing wrong with the roads.

:sad::sad::sad: :scared::scared::scared:

 

[harrow]

I have found the little lanes in rural west Wales wonderful.

People smile and wave, I wish I could live there.

But now I have to be near the hospital in Harrow.

:anyone::anyone::anyone:

 

[Byronic]

If you regularly ride a m/bike or pushbike, it's reassuring to be
be close by a hospital where you regularly ride, preferably one
with a functioning A & E department!

Push bikers may be uninsured, but they are legal.
I wish some car drivers got as worked up about the estimated
1 in 12 car drivers out there running around uninsured, never
mind no VED, no MOT, and no driving licence, and liable to
do a runner when they clip a legit someones pride and joy.
If they collared more of these scrotes then the £40
we the righteous ones would save on our premiums could be
put towards an insurance pot for cyclists. :idea-007:

 

[alcam]

If you regularly ride a m/bike or pushbike, it's reassuring to be
be close by a hospital where you regularly ride, preferably one
with a functioning A & E department!

Push bikers may be uninsured, but they are legal.
I wish some car drivers got as worked up about the estimated
1 in 12 car drivers out there running around uninsured, never
mind no VED, no MOT, and no driving licence, and liable to
do a runner when they clip a legit someones pride and joy.
If they collared more of these scrotes then the £40
we the righteous ones would save on our premiums could be
put towards an insurance pot for cyclists. :idea-007:

Don't disagree with most of what you say but why shouldn't cyclists pay for their own insurance ?

 

[Byronic]

Don't disagree with most of what you say but why shouldn't cyclists pay for their own insurance ?

Well I was being a bit tongue in cheekist, and at the same time quite serious.


We tend to put a monetary cost on everything, doesn't necessarily mean it's
the best or only way to measure the overall benefits to society. I'm sure most
would agree with that?

I'll state a few of what I consider valid reasons for generally encouraging cycling, perhaps
even including subsidisation, or removal of appropiate VAT.

The pushbike is the most efficient means of transport known. A bike trip may well
mean one less polluting vehicle on the road, if only for a short trip to the shops.
Frees up parking space for the habitual moaners protesting that there's never enough
car park space. It helps keep people keep fit and out of the doctors surgery and if other
road users don't resort to knocking them off their bikes, out of A & E! Money saving there.
I'm in no way condoning stupidity on bikes any more than I would all those berks out there
acting stupidly no matter what their mode of transport

So yes, I could say subsidising cycling may be a smart move.

 

[Fazerloz]

Don't disagree with most of what you say but why shouldn't cyclists pay for their own insurance ?

They can and should get 3rd party liability insurance. Don't forget should any cyclist cause you damage or injury there is always the option to take them to court. And Vice Versa. Its not difficult.

 

[Channa]

And while we are having a communal rant

Flippin cyclists eh ?

Chris Froome has romped to a fourth Tour de France triumph without once bothering to indicate, according to reports.

Froome beat off the challenge of second-placed German cyclist, Bernd Begemann, who made the fatal mistake of stopping for a red light.

The cycling ace left the rest of the field behind while screaming at pedestrians who dared to get within ten metres of him.

Although ample cycle paths are provided along the route, Froome and other cyclists chose to ride on roads that were primarily designed for car users.
Vast stretches of the A567 Lyon to Paris had to be cordoned off, leading to lengthy diversions and frayed tempers.

The arrogant Brit eventually crossed the winning line flanked by eight other cyclists making it very difficult for cars to overtake.

Froome now plans to spend a year off during which he will hopefully learn what a ******* hand signal is.
Angry motorhome driver, Simon Williams, said, “They think they own the roads, and they don't pay tax and aren't insured.”

Channa

 

[Channa]

Inspector Maurice Le blank, has stated

Are you sure the motorhome drivers saw any cyclists? they don't normally, too busy on the phone or playing with satnav gadgets and anything else but watching the road so they can enjoy free camping.

He further added that Froome it appears was a re offender, although charges of furious cycling the equivalent to due care and attention seemed unlikely according to his pal at lunchtime over a leffe blonde.

The leffe blonde did mutter something about drugs and cycling. Team I sky with my little eye, refuted all allegations and mentioned Froome had provided enough blood tests and urine samples to fill the local pissoir. Well would have done if motorhomers hadn't got there first .

Channa

 

[trevskoda]

What were the cyclists doing wrong? riding two abreast? Much safer to ride two abreast in a built up area as it makes it easier to be seen by half blind olduns driving motorhomes pulling out of side roads.

You are holding up traffic which you are not ment to do,single file or pull over just like good farmers are ment to do with tractors,now thats a fight for some other day.

 

[jamesmarshall]

Flippin cyclists eh ?

Chris Froome has romped to a fourth Tour de France triumph without once bothering to indicate, according to reports.

Froome beat off the challenge of second-placed German cyclist, Bernd Begemann, who made the fatal mistake of stopping for a red light.

The cycling ace left the rest of the field behind while screaming at pedestrians who dared to get within ten metres of him.

Although ample cycle paths are provided along the route, Froome and other cyclists chose to ride on roads that were primarily designed for car users.
Vast stretches of the A567 Lyon to Paris had to be cordoned off, leading to lengthy diversions and frayed tempers.

The arrogant Brit eventually crossed the winning line flanked by eight other cyclists making it very difficult for cars to overtake.

Froome now plans to spend a year off during which he will hopefully learn what a ******* hand signal is.
Angry motorhome driver, Simon Williams, said, “They think they own the roads, and they don't pay tax and aren't insured.”

Channa

I'll have to take your word on that Channa. I couldn't see for all the motorhomes parked up along the roadside.

 

[Byronic]

I pay a lot more road tax fuel tax and purchase tax in my gas guzzling
195bhp car than some of you in your sluggish motorcaravans, that's
right you lot taking up the full carriagewidth in unnecessarily large vehicles,
obscuring the way ahead and rarely pulling over into a layby (although
professing otherwise) to allow passing. What's more you motorcaravanners
generally seem to be a bunch of old codgers, when was the last time you
at least took an eyesight test, let alone a competance test of any kind on
your driving abilities, long ago and long overdue judging from what I've seen.

Yeah, and I've seen the (potentially hazardous) grey water slick some
of you slyly eject on the Queens Highway

None of us is perfect, including cyclists are we.

 

[maingate]

I pay a lot more road tax fuel tax and purchase tax in my gas guzzling
195bhp car than some of you in your sluggish motorcaravans, that's
right you lot taking up the full carriagewidth in unnecessarily large vehicles,
obscuring the way ahead and rarely pulling over into a layby (although
professing otherwise) to allow passing. What's more you motorcaravanners
generally seem to be a bunch of old codgers, when was the last time you
at least took an eyesight test, let alone a competance test of any kind on
your driving abilities, long ago and long overdue judging from what I've seen.

Yeah, and I've seen the (potentially hazardous) grey water slick some
of you slyly eject on the Queens Highway

None of us is perfect, including cyclists are we.

Listen smartarse, I don't need an eyesight test .... OK?

I have a perfectly good Guide Dog.