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Robmac said:
In short no. Diesel requires pressure and heat to ignite easily.
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thanks so if it was in a jerry on the roof it would not ignite even if it got hot because there would be no pressure presumably (as long as I left air in the top maybe for expansion?)
 
delicagirl said:
thanks so if it was in a jerry on the roof it would not ignite even if it got hot because there would be no pressure presumably (as long as I left air in the top maybe for expansion?)
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Shouldn't be a problem. I have a huge tank of oil a few feet from my house.

Diesel can develop a 'bug' though if stored long term, so maybe the less air in the tank the better? May be worth further research on that though.

The main thing is that it will be fairly heavy so a robust mounting system may be more important.
 
delicagirl said:
thanks so if it was in a jerry on the roof it would not ignite even if it got hot because there would be no pressure presumably (as long as I left air in the top maybe for expansion?)
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Wouldn't be a problem. When I went to Libya the guide had 8 jerry cans of petrol on his roof, the rest of us kept a safe distance for a few days, then forgot about it, lol.

Always best not to fill cans right up though, not for safety reasons, but if the fuel does expand, it will spill out a bit when you open it.

Preferred by many for years is the Scepter military fuel cans, but I just looked them up and they are stupid money now. No idea why people pay that much for them.

scepter military fuel cans | eBay
 
Hi delicious, 10 litres on your roof is a bit more weight along with the spare wheel, I take it you will only use the filling stations with the extra long hoses to reach up there😂
 
maybe the fuel on the roof is not such a good idea if I am travelling alone then... thanks andy
 
delicagirl said:
maybe the fuel on the roof is not such a good idea if I am travelling alone then... thanks andy
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I wouldn't put fuel, or any other weighty things, in any great amount on your roof. It will effect the handling.

Carry a 5 lts can inside the van! That amount will probably get you 30 miles?
 
Polar Bear said:
I wouldn't put fuel, or any other weighty things, in any great amount on your roof. It will effect the handling.

Carry a 5 lts can inside the van! That amount will probably get you 30 miles?
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I've never actually worked out my mpg - I know it improved significantly when I had the engine fully serviced and the timing belts changed etc etc

I figure I have to pay what I have to pay to travel.

but the difficulties of roof storage of fuel which you guys have outlined make it a difficult thing to do, so I wont do it...
 
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delicagirl said:
I've never actually worked out my mpg - I know it improved significantly when I had the engine fully serviced and the timing belts changed etc etc

I figure I have to pay what I have to pay to travel.

but the difficulties of roof storage of fuel which you guys have outlined make it a difficult thing to do, so I wont do it...
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Sorry. I may have been misunderstood. How much spare fuel do you need to carry to get you to travel to the next filling station?
 
Wilhelm - thank you - I have a small, but tall, van with no indoor storage place that i would like to store fuel in, and having looked on the roof in detail now I realise that the roof is almost full with a spare wheel, solar panel, 3 roof hatches and a gas fire exhaust pipe. The only area where I could confine/lash any roof luggage safely is only a small area and has a 4" high guard rail of dubious strength to attach bungees to. so I think it best not to put anything else up there... I will just have to fill up my diesel fuel tank at every opportunity. Thank you for your comments
 
I usually travel with 20 litres spare fuel. Never needed to use it in emergency though. Might come in handy to help someone else out though.

Ideally you wouldn't put it on roof of course, but neither do you want to take up valuable space elsewhere for something you are carrying for an emergency, it's not like you'll be popping up to the roof everyday to use it.
 
delicagirl said:
Wilhelm - thank you - I have a small, but tall, van with no indoor storage place that i would like to store fuel in, and having looked on the roof in detail now I realise that the roof is almost full with a spare wheel, solar panel, 3 roof hatches and a gas fire exhaust pipe. The only area where I could confine/lash any roof luggage safely is only a small area and has a 4" high guard rail of dubious strength to attach bungees to. so I think it best not to put anything else up there... I will just have to fill up my diesel fuel tank at every opportunity. Thank you for your comments
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Ahhh, I understand better now. Yes, probably have enough on roof as is. Why is the spare up on roof? I'll guess that perhaps you have larger then standard tyres, and therefore tyre doesn't fit in cradle underneath. If thats the case, the unused cradle may be the place to store a 5 litre can, although would mean crawling underneath. A bloody nuisance if you run out of fuel in a big puddle, :). Unlikely though.
 
wow

With the new axe cut a thumb off and stick it in the glove box. Ready for when you run out of fule.:idea-007:
 
I made frames for 20 ltr army cans either side of my spare wheel to carry cheap irish derv back home he he.
 

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My van does indeed have big 4WD tyres on it..... and the back of my van has a ladder on one side and 2 fridge vents in the middle... so it is difficult to see how I could mount a spare wheel bracket anywhere sensible. Re underslung storage for a wheel .. there is insufficient space to do that without interfering with the exhaust ...

this darned van of mine has provided me with so many challenges !!!
 
delicagirl said:
My van does indeed have big 4WD tyres on it..... and the back of my van has a ladder on one side and 2 fridge vents in the middle... so it is difficult to see how I could mount a spare wheel bracket anywhere sensible. Re underslung storage for a wheel .. there is insufficient space to do that without interfering with the exhaust ...

this darned van of mine has provided me with so many challenges !!!
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If there is a t/bar then a bracket could be made to fix it there.
 
It won't get stuck on wet grass and it won't cost £200 to replace an indicator lens. :dance:
 
Traditionally, tall narrow tyres on sand too, but these days with vehicles being a lot more powerful, wide or narrow is not so important.
 
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