Vehicle Tax

trevskoda said:
yes but if someone cloned your veh then with out a visable tax disc you will be hammered.
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there will be no tax discs soon thats what this thread is really about .
if we can find out if a car is taxed so can foreign plod .
 
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I think its unfair to charge both the seller and the buyer of a car for the same month, but in practice it won't matter just don't tax it till the end of the first month as your not really breaking the law as the car had valid tax for that month and is not sorn.
 
i think its a good idea being able to tax your car monthly ok dvla are going to make millions of extra quid probably at our expense .now we can sell a car with tax makes it a little more attractive to the buyer saves him laying out over a hundred quid extra when he has bought his car and the seller has probably made a couple of quid extra on the sale ,as its easier to sell a taxed car than one without ..as for loosing money we always loose money if we declare our tax disc in if its mid month and always loose money if we tax a car mid month so no change there . it will benefit the driver that only uses his motor every now and again like motor homes you will be able to tax the thing as and when .a month here another month there leave it for 5 months and then tax again .so realy i think its a good idea . also helps people budget better if there on a tight income .ok dvla are mabey going to benefit greatly again out of our pockets ,but whats new there .
 
We bought Percy on the 29th of the month and had to tax from the 1st of that month. Next year we might decide to leave him outside the house and get the month back, so to speak.
 
This is going to be the second biggest dupe of all time.

Millions of extra revenue will be collected with the part month surrender scenario already mentioned.

Remember when fuel stopped being sold in gallons and changed to litres. a 2 p increase per litre doesnt sound much but is 9 p a gallon. !

They will do the same with this, fiver a month here and there. multiplied out over the year another cash cow ...you watch !!!

Channa
 
When I ran a motorbike in the 1960 it was proposed to abolish road tax. Fuel went up 3p per gallon (3s&3p to 3s&6p) for the tax. The road tax was supposed to be abolished the next budget. It wasn't, but was increased, and the fuel tax remained and has increased since then.

At that time a local County Durham garage owner bought a new car. He went out to serve an identical car at the pump. Yes, identical both, make, model and colour and each had the same registration plate. He took pictures of them, side by side and it was in the local papers. That was before DVLA when county councils administered vehicle licencing.

I think the new system will pick up more untaxed vehicles, as I have noticed more roadside number recognition DVLA camera vehicles in laybys over the last few months. Foreign Trucks are now being charged a fee at the borders. There was an article in the Dover Post stating how much revenue had been collected recently.
 
All valid point depending on how you look at this, and yes a vehicle is still taxed when you sell it until DVLA receive the old owners notification that he has sold it and it is at that point that the vehicle becomes untaxed. So when you sell your pride and joy lets say 10th of the month it is still taxed, you send log bood to DVLA on the 11th ( because you are a good citizen ) DVLA receive log book on the 12th process it on the 13th the said vehicle becomes untaxed on the 13th. Or are you going to be a nice seller and not tell DVLA untill last day of month so by the time DVLA get the log book and process it you as the seller loose another month. Which ever way DVLA get paid twice for one month

IT IS NO LONGER VEHICLE TAX IT'S OWNERSHIP TAX
 
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I think the main reason that the road tax disk is stopped being allowed to be transferred is to ensure that the new owner has to insure the vehicle before they can get it taxed.
This is the only good thing that comes from this legislation.

Just a quick thought.

Joe lives in Devon and his brother Jim lives in Durham and they both have 2012 black Audi A5s. If both cars have the same reg number and Jim spends £10.00 on a duplicate vin plate for his to match Joes, put his reg on SORN and both men are named on the insurance = [1 road tax, 1MOT and 1 insurance premium] unless they visit each other, how's that going to be policed? :eek:
 
it cant be policed properly . its just like most of authority rules and changes . they are made by humans . humans cant really sort things out . we arent smart enough .
almost every rule or law as a get out . thats part of the fun . you have toi find the secret get out .
by the way many vehicles dont need mot. road tax can be free . you just have to get the right set up.
after all they make the rules all we have to do is abide by them . that includes using the get outs its allowed.
 
Sorry, maybe I did not make my comment clear.

The DVLA will not let the new owner have road tax without current insurance.

All insurance companies have run the MID Motor Insurance Database for many years now.

I've been updating my own vehicles on the MID for at least five years. :eek:
 
but they dont now . so nothing changed their .
plus as of a couple of years ago even if the vehicle is taxed and your insurance allowed you to drive someone elses vehicle you couldnt unless they had it insured .
 
vwalan said:
but they dont now . so nothing changed their .
as of a couple of years ago even if the vehicle is taxed and your insurance allowed you to drive someone elses vehicle you couldnt unless they had it insured .
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A problem with selling a car with tax on it is that there is no sure way of making the new owner buy insurance.

Some people do fill in the V5 properly and send it off but may have been given a false address.

If one was inclined, buy a car for a few quid with a bit of tax, run it till the tax runs out and then sell it for scrap. Maybe getting most or all your money back.
 
As I have just sold and bought another car I have been reading the blurb from the dvla and read that after the change to no tax discs,if you buy a vehicle you can not even driive it home untill you have paid dvla for new tax even if the vehicle has current tax on it.the dvla will refund unused months tax to the previous owner on issue of new V5 to the new owner.
 
So, if I buy a 2nd hand car, the seller sends the paperwork off to DVLA at which point DVLA cancel the tax upon receipt of said paperwork?

Am I ok to drive the car up until the point that the DVLA receives the paperwork & cancels the tax?

How will I know when DVLA has received the paperwork?

Will DVLA send me a form saying I need to tax the car & up until that point I am legally allowed to drive the car?

Is there a a period between the tax being cancelled & new tax purchased where I could be driving illegally?
 
izwozral said:
So, if I buy a 2nd hand car, the seller sends the paperwork off to DVLA at which point DVLA cancel the tax upon receipt of said paperwork?

Am I ok to drive the car up until the point that the DVLA receives the paperwork & cancels the tax?

How will I know when DVLA has received the paperwork?

Will DVLA send me a form saying I need to tax the car & up until that point I am legally allowed to drive the car?

Is there a a period between the tax being cancelled & new tax purchased where I could be driving illegally?
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Many dealers have effectively been enforcing this for years, they cash in the tax on any vehicle traded in immediately and arrange new tax when it is bought. One decent dealer actually gave me the tax disc when I traded in a car as a little extra discount.

As you can pay instantly on line, just as you can get insurance on line it should really present few problems and may force a few more miscreants to insure their cars at least for a month or so.
 
you can drive without tax disc or tax for 5 days so long as you have applied . these days a phone call or internet takes seconds . so off you go. mind getting insurance that fast might be the problem .
 
vwalan said:
you can drive without tax disc or tax for 5 days so long as you have applied . these days a phone call or internet takes seconds . so off you go. mind getting insurance that fast might be the problem .
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I think you have to have paid, just saying the cheque is in the post is unlikelyto work.
 
vindiboy said:
As I have just sold and bought another car I have been reading the blurb from the dvla and read that after the change to no tax discs,if you buy a vehicle you can not even driive it home untill you have paid dvla for new tax even if the vehicle has current tax on it.the dvla will refund unused months tax to the previous owner on issue of new V5 to the new owner.
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You couldn't drive it home anyway unless you insure it at the venders or you have trade plates. The seller will be surrendering his insurance and or more probably transferring it onto his new vehicle thus uninsured vehicle tax is invalid. If you do insure it at source of purchase I don't think your drive home will take longer than the V5 getting to the DVLA. you cannot buy 'new' TAX in your name until the old tax has been cancelled by DVLA and some people scuffed Orwell?

I wonder if the law that states 'it is an offence not to display a current tax disc in the bottom left corner of windscreen' has been repealed? :eek:
 
The fuel is already heavily taxed, the road tax is a tax, the mot is a tax everything that you buy or need to buy is taxed... however I believe the only fair transport way is a fuel tax, I use a company car and do high miles and pay high fuel bills, but I get really miffed and jealous when I go to Europe and see how much cheaper the diesel is compared to unleaded. Why do we pay more for diesel... because that is the fuel that most transport companies use, hence higher tax revenue!
But im also old enough to relize the only way to avoid it is 1) ride a push bike 2) don't go anywhere 3) don't buy anything or 4) just roll over and die :idea:


I fill up in Europe and just enjoy the moment!:banana::drive::drive: now can I have my padded room back?:raofl:
 
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