Vehicle Tax

insignia

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Hi All
As of the 1st October it will no longer a requirement to display a tax disc on your vehicle and from the 1st November you will not be able to sell or buy a vehicle Taxed. As of the 1st November automatic refunds will occur when you notify DVLA that you have sold or disposed of the vehicle, you will also be able to pay by direct debit either 12mth. 6mth. or monthly.
What do you people think of this governments latest move.
 
Personally i think this is a very poor decision and will leave the whole system wide open to abuse. It will be possible for example to have two or more identical cars with the same number plates and only tax one. in the past you would not have a suitable disk to display on the clone cars now it wont matter they will to all intents and purposes be the same car. Or of course someone with the same make and model as yours can change the number plates and be almost untouchable as there is no visual indicator that this is not the correct car.
Dave
 
Two good points Dave unless of course they check vin and chassis plate
 
landyrubbertramp said:
Two good points Dave unless of course they check vin and chassis plate
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Yes that's true however for the vast majority of motoring offences Parking, Speeding, Congestion charge and the like they only bother with number plates.
 
Hi
Yes good points raised over the criminal element but for some of us motor homers that only use for the odd few weeks a year it will be possible to tax and sorn online so saving some pennies and at the same time the bother of claiming a refund. So if you go away in march to spain lets say and going to stay six months then you tax it to leave the country and then sorn it whilst in spain then tax it upon your return.
the mind boggles with all the scenarios that this may pose
 
go to spain for 6 months in march?
far better to go end of november .
why stay here in the lovely uk winter .
 
spanish police can trace your vehicle and see if its taxed ,motted or insured . believe me . they have for awhile . many vehicles get lifted in spain . been going on for the past 6 years that i know of .
 
I expect you will only get a full months tax rebate, dose it mean that dvla would get tax twice,
 
yes they could end up with two months tax for every car thats sold .
 
A lot of time on their hands

They will have to find a lot of extra work for traffic wardens police officers and support teams that spent their life looking for an ease nick and endless form filling.Put the tax on Fuel and then if you use the roads more you pay more.

Snowbirds.:rolleyes2::rolleyes2::cool1::cool1:
 
If you sell your car on the 3rd of the May. You will not get that month back!

The person that buys your car will have to tax from the first on May so the DVLA will get an extra months tax on every car sold.

How many cars sold each year???

As for putting an extra tax on fuel to replace car tax.

Fuel already has a huge tax element on it. That tax element and the cost of the fuel is also subject to VAT.

So we pay Vat on tax??? :sucks: But good business model. :eek:
 
Polar Bear said:
If you sell your car on the 3rd of the May. You will not get that month back!

The person that buys your car will have to tax from the first on May so the DVLA will get an extra months tax on every car sold.

How many cars sold each year???

As for putting an extra tax on fuel to replace car tax.

Fuel already has a huge tax element on it. That tax element and the cost of the fuel is also subject to VAT.

So we pay Vat on tax??? :sucks: But good business model. :eek:
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Don't you also pay VAT on your IPT or is that added after the VAT? Ripper either way
 
insignia said:
Hi
Yes good points raised over the criminal element but for some of us motor homers that only use for the odd few weeks a year it will be possible to tax and sorn online so saving some pennies and at the same time the bother of claiming a refund. So if you go away in march to spain lets say and going to stay six months then you tax it to leave the country and then sorn it whilst in spain then tax it upon your return.
the mind boggles with all the scenarios that this may pose
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It would also probably void your insurance as well. My understanding of eropean motoring is the vehicle mst be road legal in its country of origin so that means its taxed.

I do know of people who do drive vehicles while on SORN but they are far far away from europe and this is the only way they can do it, of course south american police have no clue about what is legal or not in europe so it doesn't matter - I guess Tony who posts here and has been driving an old Iveco around South America did just that.

Rich
 
trevskoda said:
can speed cameras do this,but they could read a tax disc.and why dident they just put it on fuel anyway,another piss by gov.
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link a camera into a computer and you have it all . there is a link a mate once showed me where we can see if a car is taxed . its open to all to see. but i lost it when changing computers awhile ago.
dvla site i think you can check.
 
Cloning a vehicle is interesting, tax and mot possible the gov is relying on ANPR, slight snag getting number plates made you need the v5 but screwed not riveted with a drill soon away.(On the donor car)

Foreign trucks for years have fitted extended tanks so in theory use our roads gratuit. Most of the autoroutes in france as an example are peage so you pay!!! a trip to the south and back is equivalent to a years road tax here on a modest car, we have good value in that context.

Add the duty to fuel would be far easier , pay as you go as someone else mentioned. the ANPRS would then only have to catch those not insured and mot'd

Channa
 
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Does that also mean you can no longer tax at the post office, Tough luck if you don't own a bank account, :D
 
channa said:
Cloning a vehicle is interesting, tax and mot possible the gov is relying on ANPR, slight snag getting number plates made you need the v5 but screwed not riveted with a drill soon away.(On the donor car)

Foreign trucks for years have fitted extended tanks so in theory use our roads gratuit. Most of the autoroutes in france as an example are peage so you pay!!! a trip to the south and back is equivalent to a years road tax here on a modest car, we have good value in that context.

Add the duty to fuel would be far easier , pay as you go as someone else mentioned. the ANPRS would then only have to catch those not insured and mot'd

Channa
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Try 'number plates' in ebay. not a problem
 
vwalan said:
link a camera into a computer and you have it all . there is a link a mate once showed me where we can see if a car is taxed . its open to all to see. but i lost it when changing computers awhile ago.
dvla site i think you can check.
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yes but if someone cloned your veh then with out a visable tax disc you will be hammered.
 
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