Bettws-y-Coed, almost an Aire.

may not be available much longer

i've just been advised by the park ranger having just spent the night here with two other vans that we will be losing this spot soon as the local campsite owner has spent the last three years persuading the local authority to stop us stopping over nighting, there will be signs going up soon once the bylaw has been passed and will be effective in all of the snowdon national park car parks.
This is not the park authority but the local authority responding to pressure from local campsite owners.
 
MORGANTHEMOON said:
Yep that bloody dyke is not doing the job.

There's English buggers spilling over the border at an alarming rate.
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Never forget that us southern English B*****s have to pay to get in: you lot can get out of jail free!
John
 
alickswud said:
i've just been advised by the park ranger having just spent the night here with two other vans that we will be losing this spot soon as the local campsite owner has spent the last three years persuading the local authority to stop us stopping over nighting, there will be signs going up soon once the bylaw has been passed and will be effective in all of the snowdon national park car parks.
This is not the park authority but the local authority responding to pressure from local campsite owners.
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Crazy, we will just stay away then AND the Bettws car park & local shops will lose out too. We were there a couple of weeks back & spent around £100 in the town shops as well as the car park ticket. There were at least 3 other vans in the area & one stayed overnight near us.

Not exactly a quiet night tho, a train went thro at speed at arouns 9pm & made us jump & then there was a police helicopter hovering over the town from about 9.30 to 11, the locals were not impressed with that!
Anyway I understood that Councils were not allowed to pass bye-laws to try & drive business to local companies? can we not challenge that & what evidence do we have apart from the ranger's opinion?
 
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Also do these complaining campsite owners think the motorhomes are going to stay on their sites because all the wild camping has been blocked.
 
Yes sounds as though councils can be persuaded . Forgive my ignorance but do we [as in wildcamping] have an organised pressure group petitioning councils
etc ? If not , I think all like minded organisations should pool resources . Maybe one day the uk could be as campervan friendly as France !
I have a few other obsessions [ideas] which a pressure group like this could help with
 
I live 5 miles from the North Wales border yet in all my 20 odd years of camping/caravanning/motorhoming I could probably count on two hands the number of times I've gone to North Wales for a weekend or holiday - and then it has been to C & C C THSs or meets. This is because the campsite owners there are a money grabbing bunch who charge far more than equivalent sites in England or Scotland.

I'm not surprised that they object to a £4 per night car park - but whatever happened to the British free economy? Do the Councils step in and prevent Sainsburys/Tesco/Morrisons building big supermarkets and selling stuff cheaper than the shops in the high street? No, they encourage them.

So what is different with camping?
 
bettws stop over

Sounds like a good spot . Will give it a go next weekend . Do the pubs allow dogs in :wacko:
 
martyncc said:
Sounds like a good spot . Will give it a go next weekend . Do the pubs allow dogs in :wacko:
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Possibly not because they are a bit posh like, & serve food too, but all the shops (apart from those selling food) were very dog friendly.
 
Hi, I think we should become more organised as a pressure group and if something like this happens in Bettws-y-coed we should write to the council involved.
A standard letter that members could print off would be helpful ( unions currently do this all the time to MPs and guess what they have to reply individually).

A draft letter could be started and once we are all happy with it,s content we could either print it off and send or E mail to councillors.Power points are spending in the local economy and it's affects if allowed to discontinue (loss).

Look we are a membership of over 8000 members ! maybe it's time voice ourselves!

I love Bettws-y-Coed and have had plans to head that way in the near future ( out of season)and spend money as a tourist,for me this decision has now closed that door.

What do members think?

Cheers

David
 
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dogs in pubs

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Possibly not because they are a bit posh like, & serve food too, but all the shops (apart from those selling food) were very dog friendly.
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Well we will give it a go . We find most places will allow dogs in the bar area .so we just eat there . NO DOG no coming in :dog:
 
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Devastated to read that Betws-y-Coed car park is in danger of being closed to Motorhomes. I was struck by the comment "Forgive my ignorance but do we [as in wildcamping] have an organised pressure group petitioning councils etc ? If not , I think all like minded organisations should pool resources . Maybe one day the uk could be as campervan friendly as France !" I put a request for information on another forum and one of the administrators is trying to get in touch with Conwy County Borough Council with an FOI request. Is there anyway we can back this up to show a united front since this is one of the closest things to an Aire I have come across, and in a brilliant location.
 
martyncc said:
Sounds like a good spot . Will give it a go next weekend . Do the pubs allow dogs in :wacko:
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Hi,

There is a pub called the Pont y Pair that allows dogs, or they did last week. Foods quite good as well. There is another pub the other end of the town The Stables where you can sit outside under cover (if not too cold) with a dog. Not sure if they are allowed in though.
 
The Royal oak(aka) the stables do not allow dogs into the bar/restaurant area. We were there back in the summer and sat outside which wasn't a problem as it was lovely and warm. Listening to the local male voice choir made it quite a special evening. Lovely food with very courteous servers. Shame that we may lose what is a cracking wild camping spot in a beautiful location.
 
If it does go & you are not driving a ginormouse meggabus, head off up to Llyn Gerionydd from by the Ugly House or opposite Plas Gwrych near Llanrwst. Should be plenty of nice spots up there by the lead mines or near the lake.
 
Betws-y-coed pub stop

The Ty Gwyn Hotel has a massive car park and is motorhome friendly. It's a great bar with good food, real ales and very friendly staff. We got the landlord's permission to park 3 m/h's there one weekend this summer and they even kept the kitchen open late for us arriving.
 
Croftland1 said:
The Ty Gwyn Hotel has a massive car park and is motorhome friendly. It's a great bar with good food, real ales and very friendly staff. We got the landlord's permission to park 3 m/h's there one weekend this summer and they even kept the kitchen open late for us arriving.
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Looking on Streetview, this hotel has a tiny roadside car park - are you sure it's the right place?

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=LL24+0SG&aq=&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=8.08612,15.46875&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Betws-y-Coed+LL24+0SG,+United+Kingdom&ll=53.084133,-3.792171&spn=0.00395,0.007553&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.084259,-3.794208&panoid=ZyItK9YxCCCGRVJpmdgvRg&cbp=12,8.447141600000009,,0,2.1773901
 
 
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