fuel consumption

[kell]

No, your opinions are very welcome and if it works for you, then that is ok, is it not?
For myself, I could not be bothered and will stick with what I know is proven and has been for many years. Maybe when I stop work, I will re evaluate

I know we've wandered away from MPG to veg oil but I just wanted to say that if a had a van as new as yours ***** the only veg oil I'd allow near it would be for cooking!
Cheers
John

 

[wigan pier]

hi *****.

we ran a seddon lorry on fair ground on this mix just to see how it went not to save money but as a experiment to say it works good is a understatement the wagon is still running today that was 10years ago like i said before this is not suitible for newer motors.
regards andy.

 

[Guest]

I know we've wandered away from MPG to veg oil but I just wanted to say that if a had a van as new as yours ***** the only veg oil I'd allow near it would be for cooking!
Cheers
John

Thanks John, maybe in the future

 

[Guest]

hi *****.

we ran a seddon lorry on fair ground on this mix just to see how it went not to save money but as a experiment to say it works good is a understatement the wagon is still running today that was 10years ago like i said before this is not suitible for newer motors.
regards andy.

No anti freezing properties for this time of the year though, but any other time, probably OK

 

[Don]

Mines a Pilote on a Boxer 1.9. Luton bod. Estimate about 25 to gal.

1.9 very under powered for the size of van,

But hey you ether love it or hate it.

Keep the rubber burning.

Don

 

[Don]

wot a load of twaddle go to cash & carry buy 20 liters of cooking oil £5 20 liters of diesel mix and change fuel filter every 10,000 miles what a saving and no damage to engine you will find it evens runs better

Couldnt agree more. exactly as I do only Co/op 5ltrs @ £4.45.
Mix 50/50 and away she goes.

Don

 

[tresrikay]

Solid veg oil.

No anti freezing properties for this time of the year though, but any other time, probably OK

Your so right there Graham, Just been away for a few nights and when i went into the cupboard under the sink in the van, the Veg oil was solid and I had been on site for 4 hours with the heating on. Can you imagine the damage this would cause in a modern common rail engine that is chip controlled!!!! I would say you could run on veg oil for 10 years and still not cover the repair costs and you could kiss goodbye to your warranty.

 

[wigan pier]

must be colder in ur van than my shed cos cooking oil not veg oil i use has not froze saying that the stuff i use is french like the plonk cheap and gooooooooooooood

 

[walkers]

I must say, that I am very surprised that it froze under your sink and inside your m/h. What about the water freezing?
I am sorry, but it sounds like not very good insulation or have you got some vents under the cupboard letting the frost inside
The oil should not freeze any earlier than water (I think)

maybe its olive oil or something with similar properties as this solidifies when it gets cold, doesn't have to freeze

 

[tresrikay]

I must say, that I am very surprised that it froze under your sink and inside your m/h. What about the water freezing?
I am sorry, but it sounds like not very good insulation or have you got some vents under the cupboard letting the frost inside
The oil should not freeze any earlier than water (I think)

This is the fourth time I have tried to reply to this, what is going on the whole thing just freezes........... The oil was in the van which had been in the shade and covered in frost since last Friday, I don't think even Hymers insulation could have withstood that. The oil had solidified not frozen and the water in my kettle bottle was borderline slushy but the water had been drained so no Probs but the toilet dump flange had frozen shut.I am glad it has had a good airing and a run, It just needs a wash now.

 

[tresrikay]

It just shows the need for electric hook up in such conditions which is what I said a few weeks ago.
When we had minus 7 deg at Leek with you Richard, it was not continuous and was well above freezing point by morning
But continual freezing conditions is better with electric as you can keep a fan heater on.
You can call me a wimp, but I'll be a warm one and no freezing pipes
edit
I know we have gone a little off thread, but I keep drinking water and cooking oil under the sink and I have never seen it frozen or anything near!
My Hymer seems to hold at between 8 deg and 10 deg above uotside temp when below freezing and if I put a fan heater on low, it holds at about 15deg to 20 deg above outside freezing temp.
When very cold, I open all the cupboard doors , so as to keep them a little warmer! Just a little tip, but it works for me

Does not matter how good your insulation is all the internal heat leaches out of the base vehicle windows so unless you can seperate the habitation, all is lost through the windscreen so I dont Know how your temps stay 10 above ambient without a source of heat. I usually leave lockers and doors open and maybe I should have closed my blinds but as I knew I was going away I think I was just a bit complacent but no harm was done and I will peek inside every day if we get another cold spell. I cant leave it on hook up, too far from my outside socket. Incidently Graham I bought a 700 watt oil filled rad from Currys before Christmas and the beauty of this over a fan heater is there are no moving bits to go wrong and it was left on all the time I was at Delamere and it took the edge off the -6-7 we had overnight. Not powerfull enough to not need to put your heating on now and again but for £24.99 money well spent and it is a nice small size.

 

[Nosha]

Returning to the original question - 2.8jtd low profile 24-29.3MPG. I only ever go tank to tank, it gives a better indication as to how I'm driving. So its 24-26 back and forth to work, and 27-29.3 on a run.

Now regarding veg oil (covered on here MANY times) there's a Polish website that lists what percentage is safe, my Mazda Bongo was 50% however being a Jap import it only had a two-way cat' and it smelt like a chip shop! My Frontera was 30% and having a 3-way cat' was undetectable! However they said that it was too thick for ANY modern high pressure fuel rail systems - what a bummer, that's progress for you!!

 

[lenny]

Just completed a rough MPG test on my Ducato, I tried the suggested test involving ,wait till the low fuel light comes on, fill up with,say 15 litres and set the odometer to "0", drove around the doors until the low fuel light came on again, the odometer reading read 78 miles.
I worked it out at roughly 5 miles per litre Times 4.5 which gave me 22.5 MPG.
It's the 4.5 that baffles me cos if I was to fill up with 3 gallons ,that should be 13.5 litres not 15 litres
Hope this makes sense, any advice gladly accepted.

 

[lenny]

Yes Graham,I understand there are many factors to consider when working out fuel consumption,the most important one being your driving technique's.
However ,have you noticed the consternation it causes to the convoy behind you when you decide to drive economically. Watching my rear view mirror ,I love it when they go purple and start thumping the dashboard (It brings out the Devil in me), I let all the buses out, maybe stop and wave the old lady across the road,(that gets them going), then take off like Stirling Moss leaving them trailing behind in amasement. I've even been known to time my entrance to a roundabout just right so I can enter and him behind has to
stop and and wait while I make my get away.
Is it just me, or do we all do it?