fuel consumption

[J&A]

hi all, new to site.

i own a elddis envoy with a peugeot 1.9td engine, could any members please tell me the mpg that they get from this mh.
many thanks

 

[cipro]

hi all, new to site.

i own a elddis envoy with a peugeot 1.9td engine, could any members please tell me the mpg that they get from this mh.
many thanks

Not an easy question to answer all depends on where you are driving ie motorway driving at around 60mph 3500 tonne van poss 35mpg if a heavy right foot would be less.

If your van as a over cab bed that that will use more fuel than a LP type
I would have thought with my van 2.8 diesel I get average 30mpg but to be honest if you worry about fuel costs you will not go anywhere. I guess what I've just said you now most of it

 

[sammclouis]

hi all, new to site.

i own a elddis envoy with a peugeot 1.9td engine, could any members please tell me the mpg that they get from this mh.
many thanks

i used to have the fiat 1.9td engine on a mclouis low profile...i think i got around 25 to 30 mpg....

 

[Guest]

Mpg

Not the engine size that you are talking about but with my last m/h a 2.8td, I got just over 27mpg over an average of 3000 miles.
With my newer and tighter 2.8 engine I got just under 27 mpg over a similar mileage.
Both figures are accurate and not guess work.
edit,
On motorway driving, I get well over 30 mpg but I have not seriously checked it out further as I never stick to motorways.
Oh and I am always traveling at 3500kg

 

[Guest]

Other threads

I would check other threads on this subject as it has been talked about before

 

[lenny]

When I'm asked ,what do you get to the gallon, I really don't know, maybe 25 miles. Only once have I ever tried to calculate this, prior to a long journey I filled my tank to the brim (say 43 litres) and clocked the mileage, then before the return journey filled up again say 54 litres, .
Am I right that by deviding the mileage, say 285 miles by litres used,54 gives me miles per litre then convert to mpg?
It's just that my fuel guage seemed to be lying to me cos there was no way I could get 54 litres in when compared to the reading prior to the journey.
Have you ever suspected the validity of the measure you are getting at the pump cos this makes me wonder

 

[sundown]

the only true way to get a good calculation is over at least 1000 mile
and no, you buy a packet of cigs and you can count them
but you buy a gallon of fuel, and you've only got the pumps word for it.
i've often wondered myself about that one!
should we trust machines, without question?

 

[Biker Jeff]

The only way to truly ascertain what MPG you are getting, is to wait till the fuel light warning comes on, set the trip meter to nought, then put in EXACTLY 3 gallons of fuel. You then run it until fuel light comes on again, and just divide the mileage on the trip meter by 3.
I've always done this to get an accurate MPG figure on all my vehicles.
I've heard some wildly exaggerated fuel consumption figures from motorhome owners, some of them totally unbelievable, including figures that have been posted on this forum in the past.

Incidentally my Trigano with a 2.3 JTD will do 27-30 on a run, and 20-23 round town.
And i've been trained in fuel efficient driving.

 

[Deleted member 2636]

And i've been trained in fuel efficient driving.

I think that there is more to this than one might imagine. The right boot is responsible for more lost mileage than we would care to imagine.
Another thing that can help is to keep changing fuel filters at 4000 miles not at what the manufacturers reccomend. You'd be surprised the difference that new filters make to fuel economy.
Likewise, if you have a good diesel service place near you, go and get the fuel pump flow tested and have the injectors checked to make sure that they're breaking off at the correct pressures

 

[Biker Jeff]

Anything that uses power will increase fuel consumption, such as air con, headlights, fog lights. As will underinflated tyres, and windows open.
But the biggest factor is how you drive. Always try to be in the higest gear possible, and change down by block changing (ie jumping from 5th to 3rd to 1st). Try to predict when traffic lights will change or when you can pull out onto a roundabout or junction without stopping. A lot of power is needed to pull a vehicle away from stationary (Lorry drivers call this square wheels).
The best fuel efficient speed on a motorway is in the mid 50s (Although i must admit i drive at 70)
Diesel engines are all about torque, so keep everything at low revs. Not only will you save fuel, but you will find its less stressfull as well.

 

[Boppintone]

When I'm asked ,what do you get to the gallon, I really don't know, maybe 25 miles. Only once have I ever tried to calculate this, prior to a long journey I filled my tank to the brim (say 43 litres) and clocked the mileage, then before the return journey filled up again say 54 litres, .
Am I right that by deviding the mileage, say 285 miles by litres used,54 gives me miles per litre then convert to mpg?
It's just that my fuel guage seemed to be lying to me cos there was no way I could get 54 litres in when compared to the reading prior to the journey.
Have you ever suspected the validity of the measure you are getting at the pump cos this makes me wonder

If you divide the litres by 4.5 then divide the mileage by that you will get as near as dammit the true MPG, and as for the validity of the pump measure I think you will find it very accurate as the pumps are calibrated very often and if found to be out there are big big penalties because they would not only be defrauding the customer but Customs and exise too and big Gordon would not be happy about that.
Tone

 

[Guest]

The only way to truly ascertain what MPG you are getting, is to wait till the fuel light warning comes on, set the trip meter to nought, then put in EXACTLY 3 gallons of fuel. You then run it until fuel light comes on again, and just divide the mileage on the trip meter by 3.
I've always done this to get an accurate MPG figure on all my vehicles.
I've heard some wildly exaggerated fuel consumption figures from motorhome owners, some of them totally unbelievable, including figures that have been posted on this forum in the past.

Incidentally my Trigano with a 2.3 JTD will do 27-30 on a run, and 20-23 round town.
And i've been trained in fuel efficient driving.

Hi Biker Jeff.
There is another way and the way that I use is to start of with a completely full tank of fuel (full to the brim) and at the end of your 2000 or 3000 miles, fill it to the brim again and this is also accurate.
I also have been trained in fuel economical driving
Sometimes though, I just need to put my foot down, but I am always aware
jeff, you are right about not square wheeling, the art is in smooth driving, gradual acceleration and no unnecessary sharp braking, and of course reading the road well ahead!

 

[Biker Jeff]

Know what you mean *****, we all put our foot down sometimes.
My urban/town driving MPG is always about the most economical i can get, because this sort of driving is where it costs you the most. So i'm always aware of fuel efficiency.
However, motorway driving, i put up with slightly less MPG to be able to drive at 70 give or take. Although i know that 55 would give me optimum MPG, driving at that speed just bores me to tears.

 

[wigan pier]

Mpg

wot a load of twaddle go to cash & carry buy 20 liters of cooking oil £5 20 liters of diesel mix and change fuel filter every 10,000 miles what a saving and no damage to engine you will find it evens runs better

 

[Guest]

I don't think so

wot a load of twaddle go to cash & carry buy 20 liters of cooking oil £5 20 liters of diesel mix and change fuel filter every 10,000 miles what a saving and no damage to engine you will find it evens runs better

Sorry, but for
1 , I couldnt be bothered
and for 2, I am not going to risk my engine on hear say

 

[Biker Jeff]

Running on a percentage of Veg Oil is fine if you have an older van, but if your van is still under warranty, you will make your warranty void by doing this.

 

[kell]

go to cash & carry buy 20 liters of cooking oil £5

Blimey Wigan pier! What Cash & Carry are you going to?

I must say that I agree that my engine runs better on a mix of about 35% Veg than it does on pure diesel but seeing as the last time I went to Makro the cooking oil was nigh on 70p per litre it took the gloss off it somehow.

 

[wigan pier]

its not hear say you would not beleive how many cars vans taxis buses ect run on this type of fuel i know a well known highly rated garage they say if your motor is under 5 years old they dont recomend it but a friend i know has run his van for the last 5 years and never had any probs.

just trying to help maybe i should keep my opinions to myself then.

 

[wigan pier]

hi kell
we get ours from manchester fruit market if you buy the cheaper stuff from france you can get it £5 a drum if you buy 20 drums easy to store no fire hazz

 

[Guest]

its not hear say you would not beleive how many cars vans taxis buses ect run on this type of fuel i know a well known highly rated garage they say if your motor is under 5 years old they dont recomend it but a friend i know has run his van for the last 5 years and never had any probs.

just trying to help maybe i should keep my opinions to myself then.

No, your opinions are very welcome and if it works for you, then that is ok, is it not?
For myself, I could not be bothered and will stick with what I know is proven and has been for many years. Maybe when I stop work, I will re evaluate