To buy or to build?

I think the Renault Master is quite popular these days, might be the base vehicle price, I've never seen a PVC Master or Sprinter only coach builds

I did my Master self build 7 years ago since when I have seen hundreds around, so Pudsey I think you are long overdue a visit to SpecSavers!!
 
By heck don't some folk go on and on and on and on :D :D
You can have some more.
Two beauties, no lumpy bits. 😂


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Na thats facebooks problem, many just dont change the standard setup, I saw one years back in Donegal and the chap let me in for a peep, fantastic setup and six bunk beds for his kids along with a double at the back for him and wife, prob more kids by now LOL.
That's Ireland for ya.🐇🐇
 
Pair of jokers. 😂 Although other words are available.😂

Another expert that thinks sporkels are primarily for wading.:p:)
 
I don't profess to be an expert though, you're thinking of Trev maybe :D :D

I suppose they might be useful in a desert to raise the air filter height, but that too is a bit ludicrous, more likely for aesthetics.
I agree with that. The main reason for fitting a snorkel is looks. :p
My vans air filter stays cleaner than vans without a snorkel, and the green van with the cyclone pre filter is even cleaner still.
Been passed loads of hydrolocked vans, even just this year on flooded roads or fords, ok partly because many drivers have no idea how to drive through deep water, but also because of where air intakes are placed, regardless of the height of the actual air filter.
I reverse through really deep water :)

My chassis is fine, won't be losing any sleep over that. 😂
 
I agree with that. The main reason for fitting a snorkel is looks. :p
My vans air filter stays cleaner than vans without a snorkel, and the green van with the cyclone pre filter is even cleaner still.
Been passed loads of hydrolocked vans, even just this year on flooded roads or fords, ok partly because many drivers have no idea how to drive through deep water, but also because of where air intakes are placed, regardless of the height of the actual air filter.
I reverse through really deep water :)

My chassis is fine, won't be losing any sleep over that. 😂
My apologies Mark, profuse actually :( I never intentionally insult anyone, well I make a couple of exceptions.

I didn't realise that yours was one of them, just some you'd seen.

I like the green one, when looing for our van I just did all the maths on about every van out there length, width, height and payload hence the L4 H2 Relay, H3 were silly money L4 bad enough as it was and zero under 100,000 miles under £5k which was our budget at the time.
 
My apologies Mark, profuse actually :( I never intentionally insult anyone, well I make a couple of exceptions.

I didn't realise that yours was one of them, just some you'd seen.

I like the green one, when looing for our van I just did all the maths on about every van out there length, width, height and payload hence the L4 H2 Relay, H3 were silly money L4 bad enough as it was and zero under 100,000 miles under £5k which was our budget at the time.
No worries at all. I don't feel insulted, been a while since I've been called a dwarf. Last time was in a club next to a truck stop just outside of Stuttgart, or was it Amsterdam, I don't remember. :)
 
To buy or to build?



I have taken a deposit on my villa in Spain, so at the end of next month will no longer have a base there.
I sold my Hymer b544 because I could not get it on the drive without much shunting.

I am now looking for a smaller van.

My dilemma is whether should I buy, or should I build a campervan. I am looking to have a compact or van conversion with a lounge that can be two singles, and a shower room/toilet, at 72, and having a wife that visits the loo many times each night the twin singles seem a good idea to me.

I can see the cost saving in self-building one, but does that also mean the conversion won’t hold the value you put into it?

Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks.
If i was you always build your own. I am thinking of having a second vehicle and wonder the same as you. If it's a self build the likelihood is you may end up rebuilding it anyway and there are a lot of crap jobs out there. I'm leaning towards a plastic fantastic and going from there. Also some of the stupid prices people think their vehicles are worth is mind boggling. Whatever you do and no matter what you do you need a degree of luck when buying anything .
 
Over many many years, so many of us self builders have learnt that the vast majority of self promoting YouTube videos will tell you in the main a load of garbage that could end up costing the builder an amazing amount of mistakes!!

Self builders are far better advised to join a really good and very active self building forum such as I am sorry to say https://www.diymotorhome.co.uk/ or indeed the https://www.sbmcc.co.uk/, and yes I know we have set up our very own self building forum group https://motorhomebuilder.com/ but very unfortunately, good as it is and with some truly great members it isn't exactly the busiest group, even though the advice you will receive is out of the top draw.
 
I found that chap on that particular channel quite unwatchable.

Is SBMCC still going? I got most of my help from there, but some odd ways of running a forum on there, no jokes when I was a mod for a very brief time. DIY (Jim) spat his dummy out at one point but started up again.
 
I am surprised SBMCC is still going.
Greg Vigeo does some good stuff, but like many build channels, mistakes are made and rabbit holes followed and then ignored when a new path is chosen, and the people who follow are left in the dark. (I've dealt with a couple of instances like that where folk have followed directly and ended up with a half configured setup and no idea where to go when that design is abandoned. Not a good idea to copy a half-finished build series).
 

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