Glen Etive. No Parking

[RSD7a]

One of my favourite Glens is now littered with new No Parking signs, several of these spots are on our POI database. Some of the passing places had enough space for several parked vans without impeding traffic flow and many had space for one. Now there are brand new signs on every passing place.. must be getting on for a hundred .. I've just stayed for two nights, underneath one of the signs and no-one bothered me tho.

 

[mistericeman]

I've seen places like that before and given them a swerve on the basis that others may view us parked directly next to a sign like that just doesn't look good to others

 

[Obanboy666]

Amazed that a poi is located in a passing place to be honest. It’s for passing not parking up.
As Previous post ive never stayed in any location that has a no overnighting sign be it legal or not.

 

[alcam]

I've seen places like that before and given them a swerve on the basis that others may view us parked directly next to a sign like that just doesn't look good to others

To be honest wouldn't have a problem parking next to an illegal sign .
Would be reluctant to park in a passing place

 

[mistericeman]

To be honest wouldn't have a problem parking next to an illegal sign .
Would be reluctant to park in a passing place

Each to their own as ever....
Just personally don't think it's great publicity to be seen parked next to such signs.

 

[alcam]

Each to their own as ever....
Just personally don't think it's great publicity to be seen parked next to such signs.

Many of the signs in the north of Scotland were proven to be illegal some years ago .
Tourists parking in passing places has been one of the big bones of contention . Makes me think , rightly or wrongly , that creates much more bad publicity . Probably why the signs have gone up
I do appreciate the OP wasn't talking about the tiny passing places .

 

[jann]

I would never park in a passing place in the day,certainly not overnight

 

[RSD7a]

To be clear, I'm not advocating indiscriminate parking in passing places. In Glen Etive the passing places are beautifully tarmacked to allow two vehicles to pass each other ... then to the side there can be rough ground which isn't part of the set up ... or even needed to enable vehicles to pass. Where I parked on rough ground to the side of the passing place (see 2nd photo) in no way impeded or affected the proper use of the passing place. I'm not sure if technically I was actually parked in the passing place and whether the sign even applied to the bit of ground I occupied. I do appreciate though, that despite all that justification, parking in the shadow of such a sign may not be a good look for some.

 

[caledonia]

There’s a lot of forestry work going on and timber wagons take no prisoners. Park at your own risk but never in a parking place. They may look big enough to park in but two 44ton artics take a bit more room to get past each other.

 

[Wooie1958]

You are advertising the fact that it`s ok to park up in a Passing Place to all the knobhead staycation renters out there

 

[davep10000]

Also a new hydro scheme at the end of the glen, so a lot of very large vehicles (excavator trailers etc) need to get in and out.

 

[Boris7]

The signs mean nothing, they are the wrong shape and actually contradict themselves, a lay-by is not a passing place, a passing place should be surfaced as the road, but the Glen has had major issues with mis use by wild campers and the locals are trying to stop it.

I have a house (second home) quite nearby and believe me 2020/21 bought some real scum in, just like the NC500 some of us lot haven’t done ourselves any favours, that said there’s no reason why locals wouldn’t welcome good wild campers who behave properly, but vans parking on private property and using the hedges as a toilet while throwing rubbish in the grass really don’t deserve a second chance.

 

[RSD7a]

The signs mean nothing, they are the wrong shape and actually contradict themselves, a lay-by is not a passing place, a passing place should be surfaced as the road, but the Glen has had major issues with mis use by wild campers and the locals are trying to stop it.

I have a house (second home) quite nearby and believe me 2020/21 bought some real scum in, just like the NC500 some of us lot haven’t done ourselves any favours, that said there’s no reason why locals wouldn’t welcome good wild campers who behave properly, but vans parking on private property and using the hedges as a toilet while throwing rubbish in the grass really don’t deserve a second chance.

Very sad indeed to hear about the recent disregard for the locals and the environment in such a beautiful spot.
I'd been puzzled myself about the use of Layby and Passing Place on the same signpostas if they were interchangeable. It would have been less ambiguous to say no parking in the passing places and leave Layby out if it. (There aren't any lay-bys).
As a matter of interest what do you mean "wrong shape"?

 

[Boris7]

Very sad indeed to hear about the recent disregard for the locals and the environment in such a beautiful spot.
I'd been puzzled myself about the use of Layby and Passing Place on the same signpostas if they were interchangeable. It would have been less ambiguous to say no parking in the passing places and leave Layby out if it. (There aren't any lay-bys).
As a matter of interest what do you mean "wrong shape"?

A square sign is simply information, not an instruction. Basically you can ignore it and the authorities can do nothing.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/learning-to-drive/the-highway-code-uk-road-signs-and-meanings/

 

[caledonia]

A square sign is simply information, not an instruction. Basically you can ignore it and the authorities can do nothing.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/learning-to-drive/the-highway-code-uk-road-signs-and-meanings/

Do as you please, go ahead and ignore the signs but I can assure you there’s a lot of wood to come up that road and timber wagon drivers can get a bit upset.

 

[Wooie1958]

Do as you please, go ahead and ignore the signs but I can assure you there’s a lot of wood to come up that road and timber wagon drivers can get a bit upset.

Agreed, logging drivers have a different mindset to the rest of us and not just in Scotand. England, Wales and France they are all the same

I have no experience of Ireland so cannot comment on them

 

[Wooie1958]

The majority of Joe Public including an awful lot of motorhomers will not even notice the different shaped signs and just see the words PASSING PLACE

Then particularly if they`ve seen it posted on forums like ours will just see them as a place they can park up be it for a brew, free overnight pitch or worse still several days worth camping

So, if the logging drivers who have a very important job to do get a little miffed with these inconsiderate perpetrators then so be it

 

[RSD7a]

A square sign is simply information, not an instruction. Basically you can ignore it and the authorities can do nothing.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/learning-to-drive/the-highway-code-uk-road-signs-and-meanings/

Thanks for the link Boris. However it includes pictures of rectangular signs as enforceable instructions not to park.

 

[trevskoda]

Agreed, logging drivers have a different mindset to the rest of us and not just in Scotand. England, Wales and France they are all the same

I have no experience of Ireland so cannot comment on them

 

[Rolyan57]

I suppose everyone who parks up in a passing place has their own reasons. But they all contribute in some way to the difficulties that wildcamping and general motorhoming is currently experiencing.