Waiting for Boris's message tomorrow

[molly 2]

Just keeping mi fingers crossed had mi jab desperate for a bit of freedom .,I feel like I have been locked up without a key . I am very grateful for the help I have had from my amazing neighbours. On the first day of first lockdowns she did my shoping and is still doing it all now .her attitude is it's ok I'm happy to help ,

 

[antiquesam]

Just keeping mi fingers crossed had mi jab desperate for a bit of freedom .,I feel like I have been locked up without a key . I am very grateful for the help I have had from my amazing neighbours. On the first day of first lockdowns she did my shoping and is still doing it all now .her attitude is it's ok I'm happy to help ,

Where has she gone to get it for heaven's sake if she hasn't got back yet. Aren't you worried that something might have happened to her, and aren't you hungry.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Everyone who is not out and about working and locked down at home (working or not!) is pretty much stir crazy.
A lot of people are at breaking point, if not already well past that.

I keep repeating it, but the main worry is the potential overwhelming of the health services.

It appears we can only move as fast as the vaccination rollout, so everyone has to dig really deep into those reserves of patience

 

[Tookey]

What is the estimated date for that?

Even those that don't want the vaccine, can be vaccinated, are you including those?

I believe July is the present estimate for over 18's, I will adjust my 100% to 100% over 18 due to low mortality of those younger.

Hesitant to answer the second question cos the subject is likely to cause the thread to go off topic..........but, I believe an individual has the right to refuse medication

 

[mark61]

We won't know until all those who can be vaccinated, and are willing to be vaccinated, have come forward for their jabs.

Guessing that the statisticians will have some figures to work with once the NHS has worked their way down through the vaccine 'cohorts'.

Until they have vaccinated absolutely everybody who is willing to be, it's all up in the air.

And they're still being cautious about new variants, so who knows?

Yes, but so far we have up to group 9 defined and 10 still to be defined.

Just wondering exactly what Tookey meant by 100%

If the 100% is 18 and over it will take a while.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

I believe July is the present estimate for over 18's, I will adjust my 100% to 100% over 18 due to low mortality of those younger.

Hesitant to answer the second question cos the subject is likely to cause the thread to go off topic..........but, I believe an individual has the right to refuse medication

I would hope that we can reach a reasonable so-called 'herd immunity', even taking into account 'vaccine abstainers'.

I'm sure a lot of other people are hoping the same thing

The bottom line: since the vaccines were first approved, it's all about how fast they can be manufactured and rolled out to all the waiting arms.
That's going to take as long as it takes and nowt you or I can do about it.

 

[Tookey]

....but reading that again Mark, I dunno, July, that's a long way off isn't it

Difficult, very difficult

 

[mark61]

Just checked on the estimator, seems to give the same date for everyone under 40. Second jab could be as late as Oct.

If the passport is bought in, and youngsters can't travel, there will be an uproar.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

....but reading that again Mark, I dunno, July, that's a long way off isn't it

Difficult, very difficult

It's a helluva lot closer than if you were doing life for murder!

We're all having to sit tight and take the government's medicine for now.
Horrible, but nowt we can do about it.

Maybe go outside and have a good old howl at the moon tonight?
Or take a walk somewhere quiet and have a good old scream ...

 

[mark61]

It's a helluva lot closer than if you were doing life for murder!

We're all having to sit tight and take the government's medicine for now.
Horrible, but nowt we can do about it.

Maybe go outside and have a good old howl at the moon tonight?
Or take a walk somewhere quiet and have a good old scream ...

Come visit town, you can even get a seat on the tube these days, clouds, silver linings and all that.

 

[Tookey]

It's a helluva lot closer than if you were doing life for murder!

We're all having to sit tight and take the government's medicine for now.
Horrible, but nowt we can do about it.

Maybe go outside and have a good old howl at the moon tonight?
Or take a walk somewhere quiet and have a good old scream ...

Absolutely! Just wondered what opinions were as I'm still employed, can pay the bills and get to leave the house every day, I'm not schooling or suffering mentally........I have it EASY but I am now questioning when is 'enough is enough'

 

[harrow]

The undertakers are putting special offers in our local newspaper, discount funerals, the government are saving money on paying pensions.

People are dying before their time and until this ends we have to put up and shut up.

 

[rugbyken]

lockdown & covid is like having a tiger by the tail , how long you’ve hung on for is irrelevant once you let it go & it turns round & gets you got to either wait for someone with a gun or a vaccine

 

[mickymost]

Just checked on the estimator, seems to give the same date for everyone under 40. Second jab could be as late as Oct.

If the passport is bought in, and youngsters can't travel, there will be an uproar.

Correct Mark and I feel more rioting could be on the cards

 

[barryd]

Its not bothered me that much, the lockdown. I never do much over winter these days anyway. The only thing I will say is Ive maybe got too regimented to lock down and after the recent death of my friend who was 3 days away from my jab I am even more cautious and I am not sure that is a good thing entirely. Im not sure ill feel safe going into a closed space environment ever again, jab or no jab. Its great to be lucky enough to keep yourself safe when there are people every day that just have to carry on as normal putting themselves at risk and I feel guilty about that but the longer it goes on the more paranoid I feel about catching it. Watching it kill my close friend this month and talking to him every day as it sucked the life out of him didnt help. The agony being that he turned a corner and we all thought he was going to pull through, the next day he was dead.

Its still a very real threat and a killer and I just hope we dont let the brakes off too early after all this good work by us all to bring the levels down.

 

[mark61]

Correct Mark and I feel more rioting could be on the cards

We have had very few protests compered to some countries in Europe, and we are probably one of the least sceptical of vaccines too.

 

[antiquesam]

The undertakers are putting special offers in our local newspaper, discount funerals, the government are saving money on paying pensions.

People are dying before their time and until this ends we have to put up and shut up.

If the undertakers are doing offers doesn't that mean they are short of business? Everyone is going for the budget deal apparently where they do the cremation with no mourners and give you the ashes for you to do your own thing sometime in the future.

 

[mark61]

Its not bothered me that much, the lockdown. I never do much over winter these days anyway. The only thing I will say is Ive maybe got too regimented to lock down and after the recent death of my friend who was 3 days away from my jab I am even more cautious and I am not sure that is a good thing entirely. Im not sure ill feel safe going into a closed space environment ever again, jab or no jab. Its great to be lucky enough to keep yourself safe when there are people every day that just have to carry on as normal putting themselves at risk and I feel guilty about that but the longer it goes on the more paranoid I feel about catching it. Watching it kill my close friend this month and talking to him every day as it sucked the life out of him didnt help. The agony being that he turned a corner and we all thought he was going to pull through, the next day he was dead.

Its still a very real threat and a killer and I just hope we dont let the brakes off too early after all this good work by us all to bring the levels down.

What about others you know who have had it, although i know it's hard not to focus on death of a friend.

 

[harrow]

If the undertakers are doing offers doesn't that mean they are short of business? Everyone is going for the budget deal apparently where they do the cremation with no mourners and give you the ashes for you to do your own thing sometime in the future.

No the undertakers have plenty of work, full front page of the local paper, buy one get one free, direct cremation £999

 

[mickymost]

If the undertakers are doing offers doesn't that mean they are short of business? Everyone is going for the budget deal apparently where they do the cremation with no mourners and give you the ashes for you to do your own thing sometime in the future.

Sam
£7500 for a burial or £1000 for a no nonsense cremation well it's what people can sadly afford.