Pendine sands new Moho facility - How much!!!!!!

Some would call that enterprise, after all nobody is forcing anybody else to hire them.

If I think something is overpriced I simply ignore it as I will the 'Aire' in this thread and the motorhomes for rent at £1000 per week, but if the Ford dealer is making a living out of somebody else's willingness to pay, then good luck to them.

Spot on.....
 
I am wondering how long the “new” Motorhomers will last, Most of us have come into Motorhomes via camping, caravans or boating and have a wish to be self sufficient and, to be honest, at times making the best of it. I remain sceptical that no matter how much money you throw at it if you don’t have the mindset needed then the rosy glow may be short lived. If I am right there could be a few camper vans for sale next year!

And many repossessions once the Cant Pay We Will take it away Bailiffs are back in Business knocking on doors, as Peeps reneg on their costly monthly 10 years finance Motorhome Payments they rushed into as an Alternative to Credit Card Abroad Holidays they cant go on due to #covid border restrictions. Its going to be an interesting few years ahead. Maybe some bargains to be had then with the Repossessions if the owners havent exactly looked after said Motorhomes?
 
Perhaps the Councils thinking is that people who have motorhomes have lots of money? They are expensive to buy, so what is £40 per night to these rich people. If they can spend that much on parking they also wouldn't mind spending £7.50 on a cup of tea and £15.00 on a piece of cake, and lots more on tourist tat!
They certainly don't want people taking up valuable parking spaces to people who are tight or careful with their money.
 
With ten years finance on offer who needs money to buy a motorhome?
Perhaps the Councils thinking is that people who have motorhomes have lots of money? They are expensive to buy, so what is £40 per night to these rich people. If they can spend that much on parking they also wouldn't mind spending £7.50 on a cup of tea and £15.00 on a piece of cake, and lots more on tourist tat!
They certainly don't want people taking up valuable parking spaces to people who are tight or careful with their money.
 
Thinking that 'Pub stopovers' could be in for a killing, £30 - £40 for an evening meal and a couple of pints, for 2 would be a good evening out?
Or am I completely out of touch?
At least you would be getting something for parking your wheels overnight!
 
Just watching the millionaire motorhome programme and its just reinforced my thoughts. I feel our way of life is soon going to be a thing of the past.

I got the impression that most people didnt enjoy motorhoming much last summer when we were let of the leash. I saw numerous posts saying everywhere was stacked, people not following the rules etc, felt unsafe. How long will newbies stick it if it proves not to be the vision of freedom they anticipated? Last year was the least we used the van in 12 years. 17 nights on Flamborough head which was rubbish. Not least because by the time we got away it was August and the summer was basically over.

My plan is to pick up a newer van once there is a glut of unwanted vans and get over the water again like we used to. Maybe early summer 2022. I wonder if there has been a boom in motorhome sales on the continent though or has it just been a Brit thing?
 
UPDATE UPDATE
SWMBO is on a facebook moho forum (well more than one actually). A member there has posted an email from Pendine council in reply to their query. I have not yet received a reply to my enquiry.

Here is the body text:-

"Thank you very much for your constructive e mail, your feedback is appreciated.
We as a Council, have spent considerable amount of time debating the scale of charges and have carried out our own research. For several years, the Council has permitted motorhomes to stay overnight in its carpark at a charge of £15 per night with success.
However, the brand new motorhome site which has had a very large capital investment only hosts a maximum number of ten spaces and therefore is not large scale like many other sites.
The site is located in a prime position in the village of Pendine close to shops, restaurants, pubs and a 7 mile long beach which connects to the Coastal path into both Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire.
The Councils capital investment will take a considerable amount of time to pay back the project investment.
Our objectives, as a Council is to create a safe and secure site through barrier number plate recognition and CCTV camera systems. Create much needed employment in the area and reinvest money back into the local community, which in turn will enhance the visitor and local experience.
The Council will review the scale of charges annually.
Once again, we thank you for your comments and we hope to see you in the future."

Seems to me that they have misjudged the market and over invested, resulting in a poor ROI and, if crime is so bad that ANPR and CCTV is necessary, I would not want to stay at any price. There's not much to Pendine sands apart from the sands and a few hundred mobile homes. I see its USP as being able to park on the beach during the day, for a fee, which, I guess, is a bit of a novelty and great for a day out with the children. Have a look at Google earth.

Regarding charges I now understand there will be 3 seasonal rates £20, £30 and £40.

PS Back in the day, dads would let the kids drive the car along the beach. Not sure if you can still do that but anyone fancy a moho drag event?
 
Well, I contacted Pendine Council about this and got this reply.

My initial query:-

I have read on various motorhome forums that the suggested charges for the use of the new facilities will be anything fro £20 to £40 per unit night. As i understand it the spaces are effectively what is known as serviced pitches, having electricity and water for each slot.

If the intention is to provide camping slots, along with showers, toilets and waste facilities then perhaps the high charge is to some extent justifiable. However, if the intention is to provide something more akin to the continental Aires de Service then the prices are far too high and I would never consider using it. Commonly in France I pay no more than €10 for similar facilities and many towns and villages, even in popular areas, provide basic water and waste facilities without charge.

A very good source of guidance for the development of this type of facility is available from Campra.org.uk which is a group dedicated to the development of a nationwide network of services for the motorhome tourist.

The Response :-


Thank you very much for your constructive e mail, your feedback is appreciated.



We as a Council, have spent considerable amount of time debating the scale of charges and have carried out our own research. For several years, the Council has permitted motorhomes to stay overnight in its carpark at a charge of £15 per night with success.

However, the brand new motorhome site which has had a very large capital investment only hosts a maximum number of ten spaces and therefore is not large scale like many other sites.

The site is located in a prime position in the village of Pendine close to shops, restaurants, pubs and a 7 mile long beach which connects to the Coastal path into both Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire.

The Councils capital investment will take a considerable amount of time to pay back the project investment.

Our objectives, as a Council is to create a safe and secure site through barrier number plate recognition and CCTV camera systems. Create much needed employment in the area and reinvest money back into the local community, which in turn will enhance the visitor and local experience.

The Council will review the scale of charges annually.



Once again, we thank you for your comments and we hope to see you in the future.



Please keep an eye on our website www.pendinesands.org for news.



Kind regards



Janine Owen

Acting Clerk

Pendine Community Council

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SNAP!
Not going there then...

Cheers

H
 
I've been to Pendine several times (not in a campervan), but I wouldn't go back.
The beach is indeed huge, but sadly there was often a rowdy group staying in the static caravans; shops and pubs were ok, but in my experience, an overnight stay is certainly not worth that kind of money!
 
There's real life reality and then there's Councils, two very seperate things.

They killed their high streets with extreme parking & penalty charges and they'll kill this idea as well, and then complain afterwards like they're all lamenting their dead high streets now.

They never learn! Next stop Amazon parking.....
 

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