Sleeping in vehicles

Harrytherid said:
jagmanx and tookey please go back to sleep yourselves and stop being so irritating and rec, they don't and can't enforce the ban anyway just write and deny you were sleeping in the van and suggest that should they find some nefarious way to "falsely" prove you were then just try getting the charge out of you, in or out of court then do not reply to any of their further communications.
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Harry, what comment are you referring to and what is 'rec' short for?

As for Jags comments a forum is 'a medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged '

I suggest if you find our opinions (others in the future) irritating you take advantage of the 'block' option and then you can only read posts you agree with which defeats the object of a forum but at least you will not be irritated.
 
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Pedalman said:
Racism is about "race" nothing I said was about anyones "race".
Just like someone mentioned "travellers", no mention of "race" there . Whatever "behaviour" someone applies to someones "description" is up to their own bias.
MANY BLM protesters were British whites so I can't understand your "racist" comment.
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Does this help?

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Somehow we can feel able to use the term p_kis when we refer to one protected characteristic but we avoid the term p_kis when referring to another. Curious.

There's something we, as a group, avoid confronting. We are perfectly at libertty to claim we are New Travllers, quite trhthfully, and we can provide good arguments that we are entitled to protection too. Som police forces have said so. This is sometimes suggested but, as a group, we are emphatic that we do not want to be classed in any way as Travllers.

If we were to embrace this possible concept then a whole world might open up to us.
 
Firstly I am not condoning Pedals use of the expression.

As the term 'travellers' covers a broad spectrum of desent and lifestyle, when referring to the sub-group where Pedal used a derogatory term how do you refer to this community?

I will be honest, I use the same expression and as it is derogatory I am interested to know an alternative. The term 'romany gypsy' and 'new age traveller' as examples distinguishes their sub community.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Irish Travellers - Wikipedia

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I could use 'pavees' but nobody would know which community I was referring to and personally I am a bit hesistant to use 'irish' as then you are lumping an entire group into the sub group we are discussing based entirely on their nationality
 
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After some lunchtime reading I suspect 'Irish Travellers' is the only option

www.theguardian.com

It’s time to end ‘the last acceptable racism’ – against Gypsies and Travellers | Mike Doherty

As editor of the Travellers’ Times, I know that too many people from these misunderstood communities face prejudice, abuse and even physical attack
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

www.cambridge-news.co.uk

9 myths and the truth about Gypsies and Travellers

For starters, only a small number of travellers camp illegally
www.cambridge-news.co.uk www.cambridge-news.co.uk

Features | Gypsy-roma-traveller-history-education-pack | Travellers Times

www.travellerstimes.org.uk www.travellerstimes.org.uk

And this was just interesting;

www.theguardian.com

The big fat truth about Gypsy life

Over-the-top brides were the main draw in Channel 4's series on Traveller communities. But when Julie Bindel visited, she found prejudice, poor health and poverty were the women's real issues
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My best friend is a traveller and he agrees with me. There are good and bad in every race. But as my friend says yes there is one rule for them and one for us.this is fact as the powers that be are scared. We have 6 Van's on our local recreation ground been there nearly 6 weeks, porta loos and a skip have been provided. I'm not a racist person only stating the obvious. What I saw on studland was not on, even a family in a German van couldn't believe on what he saw.
 
Nathandgina said:
My best friend is a traveller and he agrees with me. There are good and bad in every race. But as my friend says yes there is one rule for them and one for us.this is fact as the powers that be are scared. We have 6 Van's on our local recreation ground been there nearly 6 weeks, porta loos and a skip have been provided. I'm not a racist person only stating the obvious. What I saw on studland was not on, even a family in a German van couldn't believe on what he saw.
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It is a very volatile subject!
 
In truth, the travelling community themselves are keen to differentiate between themselves and those living an alternative lifestyle originating from the settled community. The whole excercise reinforces their own identity.

New Age travellers are an interesting bunch whose identity was ignored at the first review of the race relations act, it was only when it occurred to those obsessed with labelling their children born into their lifestyle needed a sense of identity they could belong too that the law changed.

Locally lee gap fair in Wakefield was cancelled due to the covid eperdemic. Reputedly one of the oldest fairs by royal charter, elsewhere it was suggested a lot of the horses traded where stolen from other parts of the country and demonstrates people’s level of ignorance. For a start gypsies prefer horses of mixed colour the pie balls and screwballs instantly recognisable from 3 fields away not the thing you would ideally want to steal if you take time to think ! So the subject quickly turned to dogs...people that entrenched in prejudice to push a non existent point. The history quite interesting the horse traders bought direct from the British army who want single coloured horses so they could be bought cheaper. The vanners,scullies flash and feathers all part of the spectacle, it is a real social event the trading all part of the fun, and it is not uncommon for an animal to be traded several times over a weekend.its no more than a cultural thing that gypsies use to differentiate between themselves and other parts of the community.
 
in h said:
What would have happened if you simply didn't pay?
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That is what I do, after having exhausted my reasons for the "infringement" ( informal appeal) I inform them that I shall ignore any further correspondence. So far a couple of years and three or four ignored letters later they seem to have given up. Different companies twice.
 
Tookey said:
Harry, what comment are you referring to and what is 'rec' short for?

As for Jags comments a forum is 'a medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged '

I suggest if you find our opinions (others in the future) irritating you take advantage of the 'block' option and then you can only read posts you agree with which defeats the object of a forum but at least you will not be irritated.
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Sorry, I am not aware of writing that but as it is 2AM now, who knows and I have now forgotten what REC is, sorry again.
 
Harrytherid said:
Sorry, I am not aware of writing that but as it is 2AM now, who knows and I have now forgotten what REC is, sorry again.
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You are replying to questions posed last August!

But it would seem that when you used the word 'Rec' you were replying to Ruth (post #15) who's member name is REC.
 
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