Wissant Aire warning

[mistericeman]

All you can do is buy yourself Time....

Same with vehicle security... Layers on layers is the answer.

Fuel cut off, electrical cut off and as many physical methods as you can.
Scrotes hate spending time and effort as it means, more chance of aggro...
So multiple visible layers means they will hopefully look for an easier target.
Obviously IF they want it then they will be taking it end of.

I'm a big believer in Disklok steering wheel locks (especially with a few welded mods)
As well as cutting fuel off and disabling electric.... Etc...

Trackers are fab BUT cheap to search/find and remove or block.

We have had high end vehicles go round here after owners being woken with something sharp in their face...
But again layers of physical security mean them spending lots of time removing or unlocking stuff.

 

[Jeff G]

Angle Grinder makes one hell of a racket though - would wake up the whole aire.

On an aire yes,but they only make a noise if someone is there to hear it lol.

 

[Jeff G]

Angle grinders are the nemesis, we have acquired 3 Gold standard locks over the years, Abu D shackle, Granit motorbike chain and latterly a Litelok. We normally use a combination of two, making sure that the bikes are locked together as well so that they can't just ride off on them!! To be honest it is often down to whether your insurance company specify a Sold Secure standard and the type of lock.

Dave

I will have to check with insurance regards Sold Secure.The weight I saved on the bike has been more than lost on the security needed to try and keep hold of it.

 

[Kontiki]

Friends of ours were on a campsite (this was an expensive 5 star one) & had their very expensive road bikes stolen. They cut through the lock which was wired into vans alarm. So if the bikes are on show you will always be taking a chance. Ours are old cheap mountain bikes & they would do me a favour if they took them, save me having to get new tyres as a couple of them are perishing through age & lack of use. When we take electric bikes I shove them in the garage.

 

[Wooie1958]

Someone mentioned the buses were not parking at Wissant. Have they returned? Or are they parking elsewhere due to increased crime at the aire?

They haven`t been there the last 2 times ( May this year and October last year ) we`ve spent the night before catching the ferry back.

No sign either of the cones they used to use to protect their parking bays.

 

[Wooie1958]

Maybe they have moved due to security issues

Possibly but in all the years we`ve been using it as a last night stop over we`ve never had or seen any bother.

The closest thing to naughtiness has been the local youngsters coming in their cars and hiding behind the buses whilst they had a crafty smoke :lol-049:

Even they used to say ..................... Bonsoir Monsieur, Bobsoir Madame and not thrust as knife at you asking for money or your phone like over here :scared:

 

[bobj808]

Sold Secure, Police Approved etc are meaningless mumbo jumbo. Abus Granit etc are just a load of crap which can be cropped in less than a minute. I know because loads of my circle have had motocross bikes stolen. The longest (42") Record croppers can easily crop up to 12mm chains, albeit 12mm really need to have one leg of the croppers on the ground or other solid surface. 8mm and 10mm chains should be treated as ornaments to deter your casual junkie thief. So at the very minimum a 12mm chain is required. The best (affordable) padlock in the world is the Squire SS65CS which cannot be cropped or bumped. The Abloy 362 is very good as well. The problem now is battery grinders and the twats are putting them in bags of sawdust to try and mask the noise. Only thing with them is they are only 115 blades and would need a few blades to cut through both sides of a boron alloy 22mm chain. As pointed out though the weak point on an mh is the attachment point. Anyone who thinks they have good security have a look at Almax Security video of cutting all those Sold Secure products. Bob

 

[Nabsim]

Sold Secure, Police Approved etc are meaningless mumbo jumbo. Abus Granit etc are just a load of crap which can be cropped in less than a minute. I know because loads of my circle have had motocross bikes stolen. The longest (42") Record croppers can easily crop up to 12mm chains, albeit 12mm really need to have one leg of the croppers on the ground or other solid surface. 8mm and 10mm chains should be treated as ornaments to deter your casual junkie thief. So at the very minimum a 12mm chain is required. The best (affordable) padlock in the world is the Squire SS65CS which cannot be cropped or bumped. The Abloy 362 is very good as well. The problem now is battery grinders and the twats are putting them in bags of sawdust to try and mask the noise. Only thing with them is they are only 115 blades and would need a few blades to cut through both sides of a boron alloy 22mm chain. As pointed out though the weak point on an mh is the attachment point. Anyone who thinks they have good security have a look at Almax Security video of cutting all those Sold Secure products. Bob

But you only need a half decent blade to cut an opening through a motorhome so presumably the panel whatever they wanted was attached to could be removed if they can’t just pop the locks?

All most folk can hope for is to deter the casual/opportunist so they look for something else. Anything can be stolen just about so no point getting too paranoid. I remember one year at the Bol a group of brits turned up and one had a sporty Honda that had just come out, real rare expensive job by but can’t remember model. They parked their bikes in a ring around the Honda and chained them all together then arranged their tents around the bikes. Next morning the Honda was gone and nobody saw or heard anything.

A lot of alcohol is involved at these events and they would probably attract more skilled miscreants due to the likelihood of exotica but it just goes to show it never safe

 

[Fazerloz]

Sold Secure, Police Approved etc are meaningless mumbo jumbo. Abus Granit etc are just a load of crap which can be cropped in less than a minute. I know because loads of my circle have had motocross bikes stolen. The longest (42") Record croppers can easily crop up to 12mm chains, albeit 12mm really need to have one leg of the croppers on the ground or other solid surface. 8mm and 10mm chains should be treated as ornaments to deter your casual junkie thief. So at the very minimum a 12mm chain is required. The best (affordable) padlock in the world is the Squire SS65CS which cannot be cropped or bumped. The Abloy 362 is very good as well. The problem now is battery grinders and the twats are putting them in bags of sawdust to try and mask the noise. Only thing with them is they are only 115 blades and would need a few blades to cut through both sides of a boron alloy 22mm chain. As pointed out though the weak point on an mh is the attachment point. Anyone who thinks they have good security have a look at Almax Security video of cutting all those Sold Secure products. Bob

Let's all save our money then and not bther doing anything and may as well just get a sign saying please take whatever you want . In various languages of course. At leaßt then nobodies sleep will be disturbed.

 

[bobj808]

Wow I thought I was a cynic. I was just passing on my knowledge. Lots of people, because they are not crims, see a heavy chain and padlock with Thatchams or Sold Secure approval and couldn't imagine overcoming it themselves. That's because they are not crims. Suppose lesser quality chains/cables are better than nothing but as I said they tend to deter only the casual thief.

 

[Channa]

I find myself agreeing with Bob , On one of my caravan sites I have seen pictures of vans stolen including motorhomes with the sold secure etc kitemarks.

As suggested the favoured method is an angle grinder and frankly like slicing through butter

The opportunist theifs it may deter which is the best you can hope for the more focussed crooks and lets face it the cost of some mhs are thousands and come tooled to do the job

Only yesterday someone filmed in Manchester scumbags nicking a motorbike with a chain and disc lock off with an angle grinder in 30 secs most , The scary thing it was broad daylight people milling about etc I don't think there is an answer when they are that brazen except a bullet

On motorhomes there is still a lot to be said for a fuel pump isolation switch secreted away

Channa

 

[Snapster]

You can do two things to keep your bikes secure.
1. High quality locks, preferably one locking the bikes together and another locking bikes to the rack. Make sure bikes are front wheel to back wheel.
2. Cheap or old bikes that no one will want to steal.

If you have expensive bikes on display, every miscreant will want them

We have two bikes we take on the back of the van. Great bikes but bought second hand for less than £120 for both.

Nobody would want to waste time cutting through two locks for bikes they wouldn’t be able to sell for a decent profit.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

A simple Poacher alarm screwed on with a cable around the bikes, 12 bore blank, fired when the cable is tugged the firing pin is pulled out and BANG! it is really loud and tealeaves do not like it at all if they haven't done the job will scarper into the night. To keep the alarm dry you must put it in a sealed plastic bag..

 

[Wooie1958]

Well we are here, been parked on perimeter but could not get level without blocks! We go to ferry about 0700 hrs from here, so unlike selfish inconsiderate people, we moved to the bus bays as they are leveller and we can get away without making noise! Well that’s the idea and no buses or bus drivers cars. The Police have driven past and have not bothered with us and we are sat outside in the sun

Don`t bother coming back, turn around and go south again, it`s bleeding horrible here, cold, wet and blowing a gale :scared:

 

[The laird]

Not one bus parked overnight!
All OK except, now back in the UK and in the rain!

Welcome home g

 

[Deleted member 58330]

I do not bother with wissant anymore - overated and always packed with Brits! I use Auchan at Bolgougne Sur Mere - park by McDonlalds End - always a few motorhomes. Last return I used was Citi Europe. No bother at all. Did not see a single immigrant, and there were at least 20 MHs there overnight, and you in the port or tunnel within minutes. Some do the Mallerie Sur Seine Aire if you have dogs then Calais in one hit - too far IMHO, esp with 80Km limits now. Takes ages.