Winter in Spain

redhand said:
The IDP thing is at least some good news hopefully the dog rules will be straightforward too
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I got the dogs titre test done back in january when she had her booster jab - for peace of mind really at least i wont have problems with dog whatever happens
 
Crossing borders to return home is the same as previous lockdown. Borders between France and Spain remain open and if you are returning home ( we have
Portuguese residence), you are allowed to travel. Have to have paperwork stating reasons for being out.
 
I would imagine if you have a destination address/campsite to stop at is probably easier - as against chancing your luck on aires which may well end up being very hit and miss - would you want people from different nationalities parking up in your village/town in current situation i doubt it - only got to look at this country and some of the mobs (trouble makers ) in different areas - general public don't want the visitors

Just my view which a lot will disagree with
 
mfw said:
I would imagine if you have a destination address/campsite to stop at is probably easier - as against chancing your luck on aires which may well end up being very hit and miss - would you want people from different nationalities parking up in your village/town in current situation i doubt it - only got to look at this country and some of the mobs (trouble makers ) in different areas - general public don't want the visitors

Just my view which a lot will disagree with
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Yes I think you are right about having somewhere to lock down if needed but reports of angry locals is not what we have experienced. Spanish locals still seem to us to still be very welcoming. In deed reports on this forum seem to indicate this is more of a concern in parts of the UK.
 
jacquigem said:
Yes I think you are right about having somewhere to lock down if needed but reports of angry locals is not what we have experienced. Spanish locals still seem to us to still be very welcoming. In deed reports on this forum seem to indicate this is more of a concern in parts of the UK.
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People are still turning up here and reporting no trouble but, of course, things can change on a daily basis. As for wild-camping, there are as many, if not more, wilding in Cabo de Gata - several nationalities, including Brits but more French than usual (maybe those who used to go to Morocco?). Since the local police station is next door, I assume that there are no orders to turn them off.
 
Some friends of ours, who are booked into a different Spanish campsite for the winter, have been sent an e-mail today from that site which copies a statement from the Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The message is simple and ties in with what I have gleaned from the Spanish Government website previously: that all external borders are open to citizens of the EU and UK and that you can freely travel to your destination if it is in a non-restricted area.
 
John H said:
Some friends of ours, who are booked into a different Spanish campsite for the winter, have been sent an e-mail today from that site which copies a statement from the Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The message is simple and ties in with what I have gleaned from the Spanish Government website previously: that all external borders are open to citizens of the EU and UK and that you can freely travel to your destination if it is in a non-restricted area.
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So what is a non restricted area? Nearly everywhere in Eu has some restrictions.
 
Friends just outside Alicante have had to leave their site as it has been closed by Police. There were only two MHs on the site. They have moved to Denia now but have been told that they can only leave the area if they are returning to the Uk.
 
Murcia has travel restrictions imposed yesterday. Maybe worth avoiding at the moment. We should have been near Mazarron but cancelled. Hopefully will get there early next year.
 
The situation in Spain varies between different regions. Here is a link to the situation in Murcia region:
https://murciatoday.com/basic-quest...cipal-borders_1522246-a.html?#bottom_navigate
Basically we are restricted to movement within our municipality and not allowed to travel to other municipalities within the region. Note that the arrangements in place apply to residents and that folk travelling in a motorhome would not be classified as residents however I suspect the Guardia or police would take a dim view of folk moving between regions or municipalities at the present time.

Pat
 
Derekoak said:
So what is a non restricted area? Nearly everywhere in Eu has some restrictions.
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An area where people are allowed to move freely. At present, for example, if you are in Granada Province, you cannot leave that Province except under very specific circumstances. If, however, you are driving through Granada Province in order to get to Almeria, where there are no such limitations, then that would be allowed.
 
John H said:
An area where people are allowed to move freely. At present, for example, if you are in Granada Province, you cannot leave that Province except under very specific circumstances. If, however, you are driving through Granada Province in order to get to Almeria, where there are no such limitations, then that would be allowed.
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I think if you were travelling from Granada to Almeria and were unfortunate enough to be stopped by the Guardia they may well ask for proof of a reservation at the campsite to which you are travelling. Remember also as I mentioned earlier that the current restrictions apply on a municipality level not just a regional level. For example we live in Bolnuevo which is in Mazarron municipality but we cannot travel to the beach in, say, La Azohia which is in Cartagena municipality or Calenegra which is in Lorca municipality although both places are in Murcia region.

Pat
 
iampatman said:
I think if you were travelling from Granada to Almeria and were unfortunate enough to be stopped by the Guardia they may well ask for proof of a reservation at the campsite to which you are travelling. Remember also as I mentioned earlier that the current restrictions apply on a municipality level not just a regional level. For example we live in Bolnuevo which is in Mazarron municipality but we cannot travel to the beach in, say, La Azohia which is in Cartagena municipality or Calenegra which is in Lorca municipality although both places are in Murcia region.

Pat
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Yes indeed, it would be wise to carry proof of destination - and most campsites would be only too willing to e-mail you that :)
 
iampatman said:
The situation in Spain varies between different regions. Here is a link to the situation in Murcia region:
https://murciatoday.com/basic-quest...cipal-borders_1522246-a.html?#bottom_navigate
Basically we are restricted to movement within our municipality and not allowed to travel to other municipalities within the region. Note that the arrangements in place apply to residents and that folk travelling in a motorhome would not be classified as residents however I suspect the Guardia or police would take a dim view of folk moving between regions or municipalities at the present time.

Pat
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As I understand it in Valencia community there are no restrictions on travel between municipalities only in and out of the regional borders, if we cross the regional borders it will be because we are going home by a booked ferry, (in case we are stopped by the police). I hope not to be stopped within Valencia region.
 
John H said:
Can't argue with that - I was simply pointing out the rules. As I said, we must all do what makes us feel safest. But remember - masks don't protect you; they protect other people from you :)
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So not wearing one is pretty antisocial behaviour!
 
Derekoak said:
As I understand it in Valencia community there are no restrictions on travel between municipalities only in and out of the regional borders, if we cross the regional borders it will be because we are going home by a booked ferry, (in case we are stopped by the police). I hope not to be stopped within Valencia region.
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Valencia region has now implemented travel restrictions:-

www.thelocal.es

UPDATED MAP: These are the regions of Spain with closed borders

Most of Spain has imposed restrictions on movement to prevent people moving around over the All Saint's bank holiday weekend when traditionally Spaniards return to their villages to visit the graves of their loved ones.
www.thelocal.es www.thelocal.es
 
John H said:
Well, after five great weeks wending our way through the out-of-the-way bits of France and Spain, we have arrived at our over-wintering campsite in the Cabo de Gata Natural Park. It is definitely quieter than normal but there are six different nationalities here at present and several of our friends are on their way. To get here, we used a mixture of campsites, aires and wildcamps with no problems. We needed to fill in the French Government "Sworn Statement" to hand in to Passport Control at Newhaven but there have been no other restrictions along the way. All campsites, aires and attractions were open (though we avoided the more popular and therefore crowded ones). Here in the Cabo de Gata region, there has only been one reported case of Covid during the whole pandemic, so we are hoping it stays that way. The winter will probably not be as adventurous as usual but we will be as safe here as anywhere else (if not safer). Everybody is following the distancing guidelines and wearing masks when they are not on their own plot. Keep safe.
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