Wildcampin? Is it only us that feel this?

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This post is more for our own information and guidance than to offend or judge other members or contributors.
We have been camper vanners for a number of years, my first was a Murvi in the early eighties, scary?
We visited the small beach side car park at Kingsbarns in Fife, to walk the dog and have a cuppa at the resident catering trailer.The owner pays to be here to sell coffee, toasties, etc. The car park, though small is free and the toilets are maintained though locked at early evening.
My concern is when we parked up mid afternoon there were eight motorhomes of varying lengths and yes could all just be there for the afternoon. However when we were leaving about 2030hrs, there were 17 converted vans, motorhomes and camper vans, also six tents and several open fires already alight.
This is all in and around a small free car park with picnic tables and clear concise signage, stating no caravans or camping in or around this car park.
For those who have been here it is a reasonably small car park and as yet not height restriction barriers.
How long do you think it will accessible to us all if this sort of inconsiderate behaviour continues.
The fires were even on the grass no consideration to the numerous children who hope to play on these public facilities in the days to come.
If a number of our members feel this is acceptable and monopolising these maintained facilities in this inconsiderate and selfish behaviour then it may well be us who need to distance ourselves.
I fully appreciate the convenience of these facilities throughout the country but I also feel we have an obligation not to abuse and destroy the facilities for all others. There are many local people and visitors who wish to visit these beach car parks and not be confronted by a horde ignorant , loud and destructive campervanners. There were three or four expensive motorhomes, not just tree huggers.
I did not see any W signs but then I was so disgusted by the open fires and campers we left earlier than planned.
If any of our members would care to comment, condone or sympathise with this type of behaviour please let me know.
We cannot and will not be a part of this type of all too frequent behaviour, by campervanners and the motor home fraternity.
Growlie69 and Littlepony
 
No, it's not just you, Growlie.

I think you'll find that most of the active members on this forum behave responsibly and feel exactly the same.

Remember, there are oodles of folk out there with motorhomes & camper vans and only a percentage will be members of, or using, or even aware of(!) our website.

Bad behaviour is everywhere. You can't prevent it, sometimes you can do something about it, depending on the circumstances (and maybe how brave you're feeling!) other times you have to live with it.

The same goes for most other activities in life and there is no easy answer.

What we mustn't do - those of us who behave responsibly, that is - is beat ourselves up over the despicable behaviour of others who also just happen to own a camper.
 
Hi ya,
Awful & Disgracful behaviour that of course will undoubtedly spoil our way of life & Enjoyment by association. Yep, I actually agree with Both the Points & Core of what you say,,,I’m with you on that,,
The trouble is, You get people that ALWAYS push the Boundaries on MOST things don’t you.
Eg Have YOU ever gone a few miles over the Speed Limit While Driving you’re Vehicle ?.
Have you been a good citizen & Reported Someone ELSE who Has, Or Parked illegally Or Thrown litter from a Vehicle or any multitude of stuff that would consume your time & ultimately You !.
As a Full Time Livaboard, I love my Lifestyle, & see things that annoy me most weeks, But I also remember why I’m doing this & Either Approach People that are doing such things if Severity & conditions allow, or Photograph (In case I get Pulled or accused of Whatever) & Move On, You can’t let everything get to you, it will drive you Bonkers & lead for a Sad life.
It always just takes a few to spoil it for the rest of us doesn’t it.
 
Sadly it's endemic in all sorts of hobbies....
As things get popular and it's no longer limited to the dedicated few...
Facebook and forums in general also have a degree of blame to shoulder as places are plastered all over the Web and viewable by an amount of folks that frankly are barely able to walk upright going off some of the behaviour I've witnessed.

No great wonder I want to be as far away as possible from other vans...
I'm responsible for my own actions and do my level best to leave anywhere I've been cleaner than when I arrived, sadly can't say same for others.
 
I Gave you a Thank you,
But I WANT to actually say

THANK YOU on behalf of Many for such an outlook on our lifestyle,
 
We have stopped there once in the middle of winter when we were the only ones.
I don't see the attraction of stopping with that amount of people in a small area,it must annoy the locals.
 
We have stopped there once in the middle of winter when we were the only ones.
I don't see the attraction of stopping with that amount of people in a small area,it must annoy the locals.

Sheeple with a complete lack of imagination sadly.....

Easier to trot out "where can I stay....." on facebook/forums
than actually pick a map up and look for suitable spots and cross referance with Google earth,
Or even look on search for sites etc.

Frankly it's just folks lazyness and desire to be spoon fed info.
 
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We have stopped there once in the middle of winter when we were the only ones.
I don't see the attraction of stopping with that amount of people in a small area,it must annoy the locals.

Hi ya Jann,
I don’t actually know this particular Carpark.
But I would stick my neck out and say that if it’s Busy, Then it’s simply Busy, if it’s ‘Open’ 24hr What Difference does it make if they are Cars, Vans, Lorries, Mini busses Or Motorhomes that are using it, unless it’s abuse of using multiple marked bays, & Weather Or Not they are local or not shouldn’t even come in to it, There shouldn’t be discrimination against visitors to a particular area using Facilities within the regulations or Rules set out by the Land Owner who provides such facilities to be used !. Surly it’s not for use by JUST LOCALS !.
The issue as I read it is apparently they are ‘Camping Overnight’ & it’s kinda not permitted at this site,
Sooo, is this a new thing, Or was the signed up when you stayed there ?.

Not meant to be an attack on what you said, just saying
 
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Nothing new here,when up are coast above larne i took the kids to a park for a swing etc,in comes a numpty with mate and there wives,barby out and grub on,never mind kids that could get burnt etc.
Just further up the coast there is a spot dedicated with tables with steel tops for barbys,did they go there no mission just spoil it for others.:hammer:
 
Sheeple with a complete lack of imagination sadly.....

Easier to trot out "where can I say....." on facebook/forums
than actually pick a map up and look for suitable spots and cross referance with Google earth,
Or even look on search for sites etc.

Frankly it's just folks lazyness and desire to be spoon fed info.

True :)

I always remember Morganthemoon (Haydn) talking about the complaints he got from some wild campers (that was when he was well enough to organise WC meets a few years ago).

They were unbelievable!

Now, Haydn was noted for going the extra mile for the meets, dishing out printed info on what to see & do once there, plus a load of other stuff.
Talk about being spoon fed? They were fed with a baby's bottle, yet they still complained!

Do know one thing; they'd have gone off with a bl**dy big flea in their ear if I'd been the meet organiser!

All this from so-called 'wild campers'. You'd think they were having a larf, except they were deadly serious!

I trust they've managed to find their spiritual homes with the Caravan Club etc. since the bad old days of 'dreadful' WC meets ;) :lol-049::D :D
 
It's easy to say don't annoy locals until somebody annoys you!
I've never seen it busy because I don't go there in summer.
As said before I don't enjoy parking with a lot of people when there are alternative places to go.
 
I can't see the pleasure in sharing a car park with dozens of others, be it here or in the French aires. I have two exceptions, Helmsley and Appledore whose local authority's welcome motorhomes. In the main if someone else is in a spot then I'll move on.
 
You want to see what's going on here i can understand why the locals are asking for motorhomes to be barred from parking in car parks on the beach and in picnic areas one member even put on here about Cullar in Spain , La Azohia now are trying to get a complete ban on them staying overnight in the town I think it's this week the last meeting before there summer break the main thing is about motorhome homes and the problems and mess they have had this winter with over hundred vans parked there .
 
I can't see the pleasure in sharing a car park with dozens of others, be it here or in the French aires. I have two exceptions, Helmsley and Appledore whose local authority's welcome motorhomes. In the main if someone else is in a spot then I'll move on.

Wouldn’t it be ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT if we could all have our very own Park up all to ourself,
Unfortunately in some areas especially in the Southern half of the UK we have to be More tolerant with others & occasionally Share !. As there just isn’t the space for us all to have the luxury of individual Park Ups.
 
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Wouldn’t it be ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT if we could all have our very own Park up all to ourself,
Unfortunately in some areas we have to be More tolerant with others & Share !. As there just isn’t the space for individual Park Ups.

It's been ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT for me on 99% of my wilding experiences, but I only really use the small out of the way car parks so that I have somewhere to walk the dog
 
It's been ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT for me on 99% of my wilding experiences, but I only really use the small out of the way car parks so that I have somewhere to walk the dog

Yeah I often have a Lay-by Or Park up to myself around 50% of the time, I tend NOT to use car parks, Infact I’ve only used about 5 a year !, But I DO find that I have to share them with others as Let’s face it,,,,There popular for a lot of people to overnight in !.
 
You want to see what's going on here i can understand why the locals are asking for motorhomes to be barred from parking in car parks on the beach and in picnic areas one member even put on here about Cullar in Spain , La Azohia now are trying to get a complete ban on them staying overnight in the town I think it's this week the last meeting before there summer break the main thing is about motorhome homes and the problems and mess they have had this winter with over hundred vans parked there .

The British councils read this too ...and their conclusion ? the end result .?

Re morals on some of the other posts, I don't think some people deliberately go out there way to upset others We all have personal standards of what is acceptable and what isn't ....the site thrives in different viewpoints ...that isn't a criticism either all our standards differ

Channa
 
I have used this car park in the past and it was never that busy with vans, until they stopped allowing vans at st Andrews.
 
Sadly it's endemic in all sorts of hobbies....
As things get popular and it's no longer limited to the dedicated few...
Facebook and forums in general also have a degree of blame to shoulder as places are plastered all over the Web and viewable by an amount of folks that frankly are barely able to walk upright going off some of the behaviour I've witnessed.

No great wonder I want to be as far away as possible from other vans...
I'm responsible for my own actions and do my level best to leave anywhere I've been cleaner than when I arrived, sadly can't say same for others.



Of course that includes this one!

I do not publish wildcamping spots I have found. Equally I do not use wildcamping POIs that others publish.

It does seem that misuse, at least as it is reported, is concentrated in seaside areas.

Geoff
 
Of course that includes this one!

I do not publish wildcamping spots I have found. Equally I do not use wildcamping POIs that others publish.

It does seem that misuse, at least as it is reported, is concentrated in seaside areas.

Geoff

Increase in Motorhomes increase in social media the scales have tipped.

I think pressure on most areas the coastal historically by volume

Channa
 

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