Wild Camping...Talk to me!

...... in fact he is an ex teacher, but appears to know everything...about everything!!;)

Another example of you not reading what I write - I have frequently said I can't understand you!

By the way, the comment from Tony was in the plural, so you didn't read his post correctly either (sorry, Tony, I'll try not to squabble too much but bigpieeater seems to have developed a groupie-type obsession with me that it would be rude to ignore!).
 
Another example of you not reading what I write - I have frequently said I can't understand you!

By the way, the comment from Tony was in the plural, so you didn't read his post correctly either (sorry, Tony, I'll try not to squabble too much but bigpieeater seems to have developed a groupie-type obsession with me that it would be rude to ignore!).
Please allow me to try and help you...now, what is it that you can't understand old man?
Please do not flatter yourself, I do not have ANY obsession with you, I think you are very strange and you do not make much sense in your postings, it may be just your age and we should all try and make an allowance for this when reading your rather odd ramblings.
I hope this message makes sense to you, if you have any problems understanding any of it I will only be too please to try and help you.
 
In view of the attempt to muddy the waters, I thought it might be useful to the OP for me to summarise what I have said in reply to his original question:

First, there is no doubt that he would be in TECHNICAL breach of the law and this would be true whether he was wildcamping or on a camp site. It would also be true whichever way the front seats were facing, whether there was food on the table or whether or not the bed was made up.

However, there is very little risk of prosecution because of the need to prove INTENT. In the case of the driver prosecuted on his own drive, the engine was on and any passing police officer might think he had a reasonable chance of showing intent to drive. But in a motorhome, unless you are sitting in the driving seat with the keys in your hand, it is much more difficult to prove. I have referred previously to the advice given by my retired traffic cop friend (backed up by several other converstions with the police). And even if the police decide to take it further, it is unlikely that the CPS would follow through. But if they do, then it has to be proved in court and several lawyer friends have all agreed that this would be extremely difficult. My wife agrees (before retiring, she was a partner in a large firm of solicitors).

All of which is perhaps the reason why neither I nor anybody else I have spoken to can think of a single succesful prosecution. I have asked previously whether anybody here knows of such a prosecution and so far nobody has come forward.

In short, everything involves a risk and we all have to make up our own minds about whether that risk is worth taking. I usually open a bottle of vino tinto most nights, whether wilding or on a site, and have never had a hint of trouble from the police. If you choose not to, then fine but if you fancy a drink I wouldn't lose too much sleep about prosecution - unless you are one of those stroppy buggers who shout their "rights" at the police and thus give them the incentive to find something to charge you with (and they usually can find something if they want to!).
 
In view of the attempt to muddy the waters, I thought it might be useful to the OP for me to summarise what I have said in reply to his original question:

First, there is no doubt that he would be in TECHNICAL breach of the law and this would be true whether he was wildcamping or on a camp site. It would also be true whichever way the front seats were facing, whether there was food on the table or whether or not the bed was made up.

However, there is very little risk of prosecution because of the need to prove INTENT. In the case of the driver prosecuted on his own drive, the engine was on and any passing police officer might think he had a reasonable chance of showing intent to drive. But in a motorhome, unless you are sitting in the driving seat with the keys in your hand, it is much more difficult to prove. I have referred previously to the advice given by my retired traffic cop friend (backed up by several other converstions with the police). And even if the police decide to take it further, it is unlikely that the CPS would follow through. But if they do, then it has to be proved in court and several lawyer friends have all agreed that this would be extremely difficult. My wife agrees (before retiring, she was a partner in a large firm of solicitors).

All of which is perhaps the reason why neither I nor anybody else I have spoken to can think of a single succesful prosecution. I have asked previously whether anybody here knows of such a prosecution and so far nobody has come forward.

In short, everything involves a risk and we all have to make up our own minds about whether that risk is worth taking. I usually open a bottle of vino tinto most nights, whether wilding or on a site, and have never had a hint of trouble from the police. If you choose not to, then fine but if you fancy a drink I wouldn't lose too much sleep about prosecution - unless you are one of those stroppy buggers who shout their "rights" at the police and thus give them the incentive to find something to charge you with (and they usually can find something if they want to!).


Quite:D
 
i couldn't agree more :idea-007: BUT i know a man won't :pc:
 
lets all try to guess who you mean :lol-049::cheers: hey i lurrrrrrv these new smiles well done phill:beer:
 
I got banned from drink driving about 16 years ago,i had not past my test at the time,but when i had passed my test i had my license drop on the mat one day and then had to send it back for a years ban the next.!
I am not one for drinking at all really these days,i can take it or leave it,if i wild for the night i may have a maximum of 2 drinks and thats it but will at the same time make sure that the van is parked up in a good location first.
The differance is that i used to drink to get pissed but as i grew older and wiser i now drink to relax and chill and now dont need to get slaughtered and spend the night in the police cells.:rolleyes2:
 
Drink Driving or not!!

I suppose that`s one good thing about getting older hopefully we get a little wiser ! & the police are less likely to lock us up Aren`t they ???
 
That coolasluck drank like a fish when I met him at Tintern Abbey last year. Mortal he was and kept us awake all night singing 'Danny Boy'.

:idea-007: It would be nice to meet up with some more normal members this year (I said 'normal', bigpieeater. :D
 
You cheeky old git Maingate:D

Just because you couldnt handle the drink,vomiting all over the car park and dogs off the lead urinating and making a general nuisance of themselves:banana:

We did try to stay over at the tintern car park again but got refused as the locals had made complaints to the local police.

Oh well another one to scrub off the POI database:D
 
That coolasluck drank like a fish when I met him at Tintern Abbey last year. Mortal he was and kept us awake all night singing 'Danny Boy'.

:idea-007: It would be nice to meet up with some more normal members this year (I said 'normal', bigpieeater. :D
I would love to meet up, imagine the atmosphere with me and JOHN H:scared:....what a laugh:lol-053:
 
Hey Hobbsy :D look forward to wilding with you this summer mate :banana::wacko:
 
this old chestnut came about many many years ago when i used to drive long distance lorries.
the police of the time started trying to prosecute truck drivers for being drunk in charge when sleeping in their sleeper cabs in lay-bys.
If i remember correct because the keys were not in the ignition and the vehicle was classed as their sleeping accommodation and they were parked up with a tachco saying they were on rest period it could be proved that their was no intention to drive so the cases were thrown out.
but having done a quick inter net thingy search iv'e found this

Drink Driving but not actually driving - PoliceSpecials.com Forum
seems they are as confused as us
i keep a lock box that i lock keys in on the out side of the vehicle
 
this old chestnut came about many many years ago when i used to drive long distance lorries.
the police of the time started trying to prosecute truck drivers for being drunk in charge when sleeping in their sleeper cabs in lay-bys.
If i remember correct because the keys were not in the ignition and the vehicle was classed as their sleeping accommodation and they were parked up with a tachco saying they were on rest period it could be proved that their was no intention to drive so the cases were thrown out.
but having done a quick inter net thingy search iv'e found this

Drink Driving but not actually driving - PoliceSpecials.com Forum
seems they are as confused as us
i keep a lock box that i lock keys in on the out side of the vehicle

My Gawd have they nothing better to do but think of ways to hastle innocent MH Owners
 
I would love to meet up, imagine the atmosphere with me and JOHN H:scared:....what a laugh:lol-053:


I dont believe the big H would turn up.

I think he would be scared to attend.Got to say though if the two of you attended the meet i would buy a couple of tickets.Would be nice to see what people are really like in the cold light of day:lol-053:

I imagine John to be about 4 foot 8,sporting a long flowing grey beard,who is always seen with a pipe sticking out of his mouth.He probably stinks as well(of piped tobbacco i mean)!
 
Good idea, I am sure there will be plenty of buyers!!:raofl:

Well, I wouldn't buy one so I can't imagine anybody else parting with good cash. You may think shouting insults at people is a crowd-puller but I think you'd be the only one.
 
I dont believe the big H would turn up.

I think he would be scared to attend.Got to say though if the two of you attended the meet i would buy a couple of tickets.Would be nice to see what people are really like in the cold light of day:lol-053:

I imagine John to be about 4 foot 8,sporting a long flowing grey beard,who is always seen with a pipe sticking out of his mouth.He probably stinks as well(of piped tobbacco i mean)!

So there would be one sale then! But your picture of me is about as accurate as bigpieeater's - and what is piped tobacco?
 

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