JG992
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mmmm maybe the suggestion of a few cans is an option afterall...... but that would probably be best afterwards!
twosugars
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Does anyone have any info regarding the inland waterways where there are stop-over points. This years tour for us is UK only, so want to find some ideal spots near canals etc.
Thanks in advance!
found a list here for the Thames;
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JG992
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twosugars you are a mountain of information!
(that's not quite the right saying is it?)
(that's not quite the right saying is it?)
MarcJ
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Sorry haven't been back for a while, busy getting the van ready for a trip down to Cornwall next week!
A couple of other inland waters are Rudyard Lake near Leek, Llangorse Lake near Brecon mid wales. You can fish as well at both but they charge for launching - not sure about wild camping. Llangorse has a campsite & there are signs up in the carpark saying no over nighters.
Wild camping next to the sea, Towyn west wales follow the rail track towards the Dysini river, there's a dead end road. Will be woken by the train! You can paddle out to sea or up the river from there (out to sea is a bit dodgey it's easier from the sea front).
Church Bay near Holyhead has a carpark with toilets next to the beach.
Cable Bay near Rhosnieger, Anglesey has a beach style car park.
Aberaron near New Quay west wales has a car park in the harbour - there's rough ground to the left with no restrictions.
There's a beach near Llandonna, Beaumaris, Anglsey that has beach parking, very steep road in and out!
St Brides Bay Pembrokeshire has a small car park and toilets.
Porth Houstock on the Lizard, Cornwall - car park & toilets & voluntary box.
If you are going to launch a kayak in the sea, please make sure you do it under the supervision of someone more experienced or seek advice first. The tides around a couple of the places mentioned can be particularly strong!
Just to give you an idea - here's a list I lifted that was put together in consultation with the RNLI for safety equipment required...(sorry it's a bit long!)
SUMMER DAYLIGHT TRIP
Personal Flotation Device (PFD) with Whistle and Rescue Light attached
Paddle Plan and Small Chart
Waterproof Watch
Small Waterproof Grab Bag/Box to store car keys and wallet.
Anchor with 1m of chain (Only for those accomplished in anchoring)
VHF Marine Handheld Radio (fully charged)
Emergency blunt nosed knife attached to PFD
Drysuit/Cag Combo/Wetsuit suited to the conditions
Hi Vis Vest for use in busy water ways (Orange is best for daylight use)
Flares (personal day/night flare and an inshore pack is a popular mix)
Compass
Mobile Phone (charged)
Paddle Leash
Personal Leash/Tow line (Used for solo trips/night trips and anchoring in strong tides)
Spare Paddle (cheap 2 piece stored in hatch)
Basic First Aid Kit
Brimmed/Peaked Hat ( Hi Vis can be useful in busy water ways.)
Sunglasses/Sun Cream
Drink and Snack
ADDITIONAL SAFETY EQUIPMENT FOR COLD WEATHER DAYLIGHT TRIP
Drysuit only recommended for cold water paddling
Warm Clothing (min 3 layers plus a base layer)
Dry Bag (with additional clothing/food and drink)
Hot Drink and High Energy Food
Warm Hat and Neck Warmer/Balaclava to cover ears (fleece/yushanka)
Neoprene Gloves/Mitts
Windproof Matches/Lighter
Survival Bag (not a silver blanket)
Waterproof Hooded Cag/Jacket (oversize can fit over Drysuit)
A couple of other inland waters are Rudyard Lake near Leek, Llangorse Lake near Brecon mid wales. You can fish as well at both but they charge for launching - not sure about wild camping. Llangorse has a campsite & there are signs up in the carpark saying no over nighters.
Wild camping next to the sea, Towyn west wales follow the rail track towards the Dysini river, there's a dead end road. Will be woken by the train! You can paddle out to sea or up the river from there (out to sea is a bit dodgey it's easier from the sea front).
Church Bay near Holyhead has a carpark with toilets next to the beach.
Cable Bay near Rhosnieger, Anglesey has a beach style car park.
Aberaron near New Quay west wales has a car park in the harbour - there's rough ground to the left with no restrictions.
There's a beach near Llandonna, Beaumaris, Anglsey that has beach parking, very steep road in and out!
St Brides Bay Pembrokeshire has a small car park and toilets.
Porth Houstock on the Lizard, Cornwall - car park & toilets & voluntary box.
If you are going to launch a kayak in the sea, please make sure you do it under the supervision of someone more experienced or seek advice first. The tides around a couple of the places mentioned can be particularly strong!
Just to give you an idea - here's a list I lifted that was put together in consultation with the RNLI for safety equipment required...(sorry it's a bit long!)
SUMMER DAYLIGHT TRIP
Personal Flotation Device (PFD) with Whistle and Rescue Light attached
Paddle Plan and Small Chart
Waterproof Watch
Small Waterproof Grab Bag/Box to store car keys and wallet.
Anchor with 1m of chain (Only for those accomplished in anchoring)
VHF Marine Handheld Radio (fully charged)
Emergency blunt nosed knife attached to PFD
Drysuit/Cag Combo/Wetsuit suited to the conditions
Hi Vis Vest for use in busy water ways (Orange is best for daylight use)
Flares (personal day/night flare and an inshore pack is a popular mix)
Compass
Mobile Phone (charged)
Paddle Leash
Personal Leash/Tow line (Used for solo trips/night trips and anchoring in strong tides)
Spare Paddle (cheap 2 piece stored in hatch)
Basic First Aid Kit
Brimmed/Peaked Hat ( Hi Vis can be useful in busy water ways.)
Sunglasses/Sun Cream
Drink and Snack
ADDITIONAL SAFETY EQUIPMENT FOR COLD WEATHER DAYLIGHT TRIP
Drysuit only recommended for cold water paddling
Warm Clothing (min 3 layers plus a base layer)
Dry Bag (with additional clothing/food and drink)
Hot Drink and High Energy Food
Warm Hat and Neck Warmer/Balaclava to cover ears (fleece/yushanka)
Neoprene Gloves/Mitts
Windproof Matches/Lighter
Survival Bag (not a silver blanket)
Waterproof Hooded Cag/Jacket (oversize can fit over Drysuit)
MarcJ
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Here's a pic from Tywyn
JG992
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Marc thanks for that a fantastic fountain of knowledge you are too... .great list there as well for things to take.... i'd definatly be avoiding the sea for a while... I stayed overnight at Conway Marina (beautiful spot i learnt from this site) and was tempted to launch the kayak on its maiden but the current looked to be pretty strong and I know its not always the current you can see thats the danger.... i've just got my PFD today and will study that list some more....
Will also be printing off your suggestions... beautiful pic there love it
Will also be printing off your suggestions... beautiful pic there love it
MarcJ
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You're welcome!
If you're around North Wales this is a forum that is based around there. If you're not into fishing - these guys (I know most of em) are well clued up and welcome just paddlers, it doesn't matter if you don't want to go fishing..
They are often out around the Menia/Llandudno/Padarn etc
Again I think you have to register...just kayak fishing .co.uk - Login
Just realised you can access this article from AnglersAfloat without registering - also all the other info on the main page.
Kayak Fishing UK_Article_8
Here's a view from the van at Aberaron..
If you're around North Wales this is a forum that is based around there. If you're not into fishing - these guys (I know most of em) are well clued up and welcome just paddlers, it doesn't matter if you don't want to go fishing..
They are often out around the Menia/Llandudno/Padarn etc
Again I think you have to register...just kayak fishing .co.uk - Login
Just realised you can access this article from AnglersAfloat without registering - also all the other info on the main page.
Kayak Fishing UK_Article_8
Here's a view from the van at Aberaron..
JG992
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Beaut photo again.... love that view from the van thing think it'd be a nice thread in itself... I know there's a view from your van on a VW forum I also go on... I don't know if I have the capacity for another forum in my life lol... however!
Bearing in mind its 2am... i'm still reading it!
Bearing in mind its 2am... i'm still reading it!
n8rbos
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marcj thanks for the info m8, but wheres the beer in that list?
twosugars
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i did come across a website aimed at waterside camping, tends to be proper campsites rather than wilding.
RIVERS AND CANALS | campsites on water UK
Nb, not all the waters listed have canoeing "rights of way", some are simply fishing lakes. but if you scroll down the catagories list on the right you can fine tune your search.
another website is this one, http://www.coolcanalsguides.com/directory/search/?cat=0008
select the waterway you are interested in, then select one of the catagories underneath. campsites, b&bs canalside pubs & restaurants etc. tends to focus more on canals than rivers
The fountain of knowledge squirts again!
RIVERS AND CANALS | campsites on water UK
Nb, not all the waters listed have canoeing "rights of way", some are simply fishing lakes. but if you scroll down the catagories list on the right you can fine tune your search.
another website is this one, http://www.coolcanalsguides.com/directory/search/?cat=0008
select the waterway you are interested in, then select one of the catagories underneath. campsites, b&bs canalside pubs & restaurants etc. tends to focus more on canals than rivers
The fountain of knowledge squirts again!
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NicknClair
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marcj thanks for the info m8, but wheres the beer in that list?
Too right
Sounds like this is gonna be a right royal knees up!! Keep me posted
JG992
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2sugars that's a great site you've outdone yourself there... i was gonna go up on the llangollen canal last week but didnt know much about it but will read up on that tonight.... and then i will be a bit more informed.... thanks to you and Marc i now reckon i've a good starter knowledge.... just to get in the kayak now lol....
and ok i'm gonna ask we all gotta learn somehow.... the list says bring a blunt knife with you? a blunt knife? what for?
i get blunt so it wouldnt puncture my inflatable but apart from that??
and ok i'm gonna ask we all gotta learn somehow.... the list says bring a blunt knife with you? a blunt knife? what for?
i get blunt so it wouldnt puncture my inflatable but apart from that??
MarcJ
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Definately if you're in an inflatable!2sugars that's a great site you've outdone yourself there... i was gonna go up on the llangollen canal last week but didnt know much about it but will read up on that tonight.... and then i will be a bit more informed.... thanks to you and Marc i now reckon i've a good starter knowledge.... just to get in the kayak now lol....
and ok i'm gonna ask we all gotta learn somehow.... the list says bring a blunt knife with you? a blunt knife? what for?
i get blunt so it wouldnt puncture my inflatable but apart from that??
It's to cut yourself free from any rigging line. anchor line, fishing line etc etc. Blunt as in not pointy - but with a sharp blade, so you don't stick yourself with the point.Like this...
Compact BC diving knife from Lomo UK. £11
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I use one of these, Tool Logic Knives Rescue Knife SL6 Glass Breaker Toollogic
The led torch / glass breaker pulls out of the knife body when needed, so i replaced it with one of these Tool Logic SL3F Firesteel Toollogic Magnesium Fire Steel .
There is a combined firesteel /led torch Tool Logic Firesteel LED Torch Insert ISLP2 SL Pro Fire Steel available but the magnesium bit is not as long as the non led one
And if this weather ever clears up i might be able to actually GO canoeing instead of being stuck in the house!
The led torch / glass breaker pulls out of the knife body when needed, so i replaced it with one of these Tool Logic SL3F Firesteel Toollogic Magnesium Fire Steel .
There is a combined firesteel /led torch Tool Logic Firesteel LED Torch Insert ISLP2 SL Pro Fire Steel available but the magnesium bit is not as long as the non led one
And if this weather ever clears up i might be able to actually GO canoeing instead of being stuck in the house!
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JG992
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Got ya both re knives. Nice pieces of kit. Will invest. The correct kayak has been delivered and is still boxed up in the lounge. The weather is forecast to be with us for a few days but soon as it clears and we out of winter i'm in the kayak.....
The weather is forecast to be with us for a few days but soon as it clears and we out of winter i'm in the kayak..... syncrostan
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Ditto, of to galloway Forest Park for a bit of wild camping this weekend,was going to take the kayak and maybe get a bit of fishing done, but in this weather !!!
stoneroller
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i did come across a website aimed at waterside camping, tends to be proper campsites rather than wilding.
RIVERS AND CANALS | campsites on water UK
Nb, not all the waters listed have canoeing "rights of way", some are simply fishing lakes. but if you scroll down the catagories list on the right you can fine tune your search.
another website is this one, Cool canals - leisure guide | Waterways Directory
select the waterway you are interested in, then select one of the catagories underneath. campsites, b&bs canalside pubs & restaurants etc. tends to focus more on canals than rivers
The fountain of knowledge squirts again!
Hi
Have just had a look through the rivers & canals by water site and it's really good, It's worth posting this site for general use as there is alot of cool places on there.
I have a ten ft inflatable kayak not used it yet weather crap but done a couple of years boating so looking forward to a different experience.
oh went for inflatable so that i can chuck in back of m/h.
NicknClair
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So going back to the plan, who's gonna get a trip up together for this kayaking frenzy then?
I will certainly make myself available whatever, just cannot do any organising till Aug i'm affraid. Will leave the organising to someone else.
I will certainly make myself available whatever, just cannot do any organising till Aug i'm affraid
. Will leave the organising to someone else.