Where to spend the winter?

Winter dayz ???

So many go to Maroc,but what if you cannot get there,or Spain ,off the coast of Gibralter,where else have or would anyone suggest ?
What part of Greece for example and what temperatures would/could i expect from December to March,as i live in Bulgaria at the mo,and although stunning from April till September from December on it snows,and gradually the temperature drops,not so bad in the house but feel a little 'bear like' ,ok i have internet and television etc ,but might make the choice of 'foreign soil ' if the weather was warm or sunny,around 20 c ???
I have the other choice of Turkey,right down by Cypres but i have a dog and you also need a 90 day visa there.
 
the trouble with greece ,turkey etc is its just not good enough weather .i have tried it . also its a bit harder to drive home in an emergency. as for going somewhere else i dont know where you can drive easily and have good weather.i have tried tunisia but its still not quite warm enough. its a very difficult to get south enough to be warm and be able to get home with your vehicle .yes you can fly home but sometimes its hard to get your vehicle in a compound to keep it safe . it very often needs to be kept in customs sheds as it may only be allowed to be in the country a set time. all inconveniance to arrange.
cheers alan
 
Still asking ?

Yes,Thanks Allan,but thats presuming your driving FROM the UK and you want to drive back,and in a hurry ...
I am asking if anyone knows where the temperature is ok,enough for me to Winter it out,instead of BULGARIA,where i am at the moment,it's far to far for me to travel overland the many countries to get to Spain or Maroc,so i was looking for an alternative,i thought lower edge of Turkey because it next to Syria/Israel etc,desert countries ?? I might be totally wrong and again,i need that 90 day visa (no probs)but have to return within that time frame (and with a dog)
I asked about Greece,the very tip at the bottom,wouldn't that be warm as Spain as it's on the same % on the map ?? but over a little ?
Thanks again Allan for trying to help,and i know your definately biased on Maroc,so ANYONE else been to ANYWHERE in the winter between Dec and March,which was good enough for t-shirt or shorts ? other than Spain ?
 
Hi Barny,

I am afraid that it does get very cold in the desert countries. The exception being in coastal areas eg: The Gulf and the Red Sea coast. Parts of equitorial Africa can get surprisingly cold as well. I was only 8 degrees off the Equator and I spent some miserable 12 hour nightshifts freezing my b****cks off due to the altitude and being in the middle of a large land mass.

Did you ever read Bravo Two Zero. Those SAS lads got hypothermia when they were caught out in the open and it started snowing.

My advice is to get under the Duvet in November and stay there till April.:D:D:D
 
hi barney .yes i,m a bit bias but what i,m saying is true. for you it seems like you will have to do syria jordan and egypt. turkey isnt warn enough. i understand your problem but it would be the same for us to go to syria etc . its the countries that you have to pass through that makes it difficult to get back. just like you will have to leave early to get to spain. you need to look at an atlas and work off the30 degree line .its a good starter .agadir is possibly the best place to be .its sheltered by the canary isles as well from the west winds . but is getting a bit of a job to park . its about level with cairo .even syria and jordan are too high .they also get freezing winds from iraq believe me i.ve tried and cant find the ideal place other than maroc.i can say i decided to stay in uk to live as i dont mind the summer but its easy to get away in winter. i have spent summer time in other places but most get too hot , france was the other option but you still cant stay there in winter. and would have to come back to uk to see family so no gain on ferry saving. bit of a bummer if you live where you are . i did think about it but decided against it a few year ago. is cheap for land and property though. but cold in winter. cheers leave now see you on the med. alan.
 
The Med from Sicily to Turkey is usually not as warm as southern Spain. You can get good days but it's not guaranteed, we've been in Turkey Feb/March time (Kas/Antalya) and certainly had some shorts and t-shirt days but also cold and wet days. Average max temp ranges from 14C to 19C between December and March.

AndyC
 
vwalan said:
you may be suprised .last winter my partner and i spent 5 months driving around the coast of spain and portugal. being carefull not useing sites and not bringing presents back. we spent about 2,000quid the ferry was 576 more . even a trip to morocco can only add another 1,000 .we are a bit mean ,dont eat out much and dont go into cafe,s etc but it costs as little as that. i know others that do it cheaper but they dont drink. i also know others that spoend that much on a two week holiday. it can be cheaper than staying home .my costs are diesel ,food ,drink, dont smoke so save there.
cheers alan.
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how the hell did you manage that?
I'm doing my budget for a 5 month trip
We'll be doing 10,000km which will be over 1k on the diesel alone
Total we're looking at around 6k for 5 months and I thought we were tight. We do have a baby though.
 
hi . go every year ,either spain ,portugal or spain morocco spain portugal . just becareful what you buy . i dont smoke .but do drink. never really use bars or restuarants . never use a laundry . never pay top park if you can. no campsites . buy diesel in super markets . ang gib . etc . do have big tanks to allow advantage of cheap diesel. can get home from gib if i go direct route. build a stock of what you cant get cheap abroad up before you go. all takes practice and soon you will be saving a fortune. takes a few trips to know whats cheap in each country. maybe a few more will give an idea of what they spend and how. but i know some spend less than us as they dont drink . have never spent 6k and sometimes are away for up to 10 months .even 3 of us . might spend a bit just before we catch the ferry but thats for drinks at home.
cheers alan.
 
Hey Alan have a good time wintering mate and think kindly of us from time to time;) working in our crappy little jobs that we hate.
Enjoy the warmer weather.
 
the choice is yours . 26,000 campers hit morocco in th winter according to the maroc tourist board . so plenty have got the message. i first visited in 76 . and now its a different place no signs of the old maroc . first visited europe as a child in the early 60,s .again no longer anything like it was. but neither is cornwall. this is the best time to make the change . if you havent already you cant get it back. if you wait till later you have missed out again. today is the day. i cant remember a better time in the uk as today. forget the credit crunch . life here now is far nicer than its ever been. we live a life of luxury here . but i like to see the basic lives of others to know we are in luxury. go in on monday give a months notice and see you on the med . difficult for some .i planned this life of mine from being a small child . would have liked to be from true gypsy stock but never mind . cheers alan.
 
Alan, ever thought about writing a book? I'm sure loads of folks would love to hear your story! I'm a bit like you, but I'm only getting into my stride now at 50 ... been around afew corners of the world in my time but now we intend to take things a little easier and would love somewhere for the winter.

Maroc sounds (to me) a little stressful, I like peace and quiet, hense my reason for asking about the USA some posts back. We would consider buying a camper out there for travelling Oct - Mar keeping to the sourthern states should mean a very plesent winter before coming home and touring perhaps northern europe, which has attracked me for years.

Oh, and I received my adapters, thanks.

Cheers
 
I have to add to what Allan said. We had wanted to travel for years but kept thinking we couldnt afford to leave our jobs. Then one day my husband who has worked for the same company since he left University, just snapped!! he handed in his notice and 8 weeks later we have sold our house and everything we own and are off travelling. We had no idea where the money was comming from but the dream was calling and we knew it would come if we wanted it enough.

We leave in 7 days, we are sleeping on the floor and we couldnt be more excited.

We have a house sit for 5 months which has helped. We used housecarers.com

Toni
 
Syria or Maroc ?bugger it i'll stay at home.

Me in Bulgaria again,now 14c to 19c sounds good to me,so it'slike what it is now in Turkey in December/january ?
What is it like in Gibralter area the same timeand then Maroc and what part,for both for FREE camping ? I'm thinking and working it out,Syria is approx 900 miles down the coast of Turkey from me,so i'm going to see how far Gibralter and maroc is,costs etc,and them dreaded ferry crossings,might useGreece/Italy one tosave driving round and up to Germany switzerland and cut across,then there's the Maroc ferry,how much approx for a 23' camper ? Arrgh,i hate decisions especially when it costs money,oh and what about the dog ? and Maroc ?Mmmmmm.
 
warm weather wintering

This was a great thread I have learnt a lot just reading it . Thanks. Mitch
 
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