where is the schengen

might be worth a look?

Guide


If you are a non-EU citizen seeking to relocate to Portugal with your own funding, the D7 visa — also known as the Portugal Passive Income Visa — is a perfect option for you. Whether you are a retiree or an entrepreneur, enjoy Portuguese residency privileges thanks to the D7 visa. This article helps you understand the Portugal D7 visa, how to apply for it, and enjoy life in Portugal.
In this article we will cover:
  • What is the D7 Visa?
  • What are the benefits of the D7 Visa?
  • How to get the D7 Residency Visa Portugal?
  • What are the D7 Visa requirements?
What is the D7 Visa?
The D7 visa is an affordable and attractive visa allowing non-EU citizens to get Portuguese residency provided they have sufficient funds to sustain themselves during their stay in Portugal.
This visa is ideal for retirees or entrepreneurs who want to live in Portugal without having to make a major economic investment.
The D7 visa can then be renewed after one year for two successive periods of two years and can be converted into a permanent residence permit after five years.
Benefits of the Portugal D7 Visa
Permanent free entry and circulation in the Schengen area
Permanent free entry and circulation in the Schengen area
Live, work and study in Portugal
Live, work and study in Portugal
Tax benefits via NHR
Tax benefits via NHR
Benefit from the Portuguese health care system
Benefit from the Portuguese health care system
Fast visa process
Fast visa process
Entire family is eligible
Entire family is eligible
 
400 euros doesn’t sound too bad. It cost us a couple of hundred euros each in legal fees to obtain Spanish residency.
 
Somebody posted somewhere the details for obtaining a six month visa for France which would appeal to me but I Cant find it now. It sounded like a right carry on though and similar money with no guarantee at the end of it all. I think you had to apply in French and use an official translation service or something like that.

If only we could join some kind of Union that allowed free movement for all that were in it. :cool:
 
antiquesam said:
The number of UK subjects that have the time and wherewithal to stay out of the country for more 90 days is a tiny minority and are unlikely to have enough clout to get anywhere on this unless they include some very influential people.
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I agree with the sentiment but must point out that you do not need a great deal of wherewithall. Our winters in Spain cost us less than our summers in the UK, even including the ferries. However, I will give you that you have to have enough money to buy the motorhome in the first place! :)
 
the figures for british ex pats in spain are about 1/4 million add on another 100k motorhomers and it’s not a significant number only about 2% don’t see anybody fussing around after those sort of numbers except for the lost revenue
 
rugbyken said:
might be worth a look?

Guide


If you are a non-EU citizen seeking to relocate to Portugal with your own funding, the D7 visa — also known as the Portugal Passive Income Visa — is a perfect option for you. Whether you are a retiree or an entrepreneur, enjoy Portuguese residency privileges thanks to the D7 visa. This article helps you understand the Portugal D7 visa, how to apply for it, and enjoy life in Portugal.
In this article we will cover:
  • What is the D7 Visa?
  • What are the benefits of the D7 Visa?
  • How to get the D7 Residency Visa Portugal?
  • What are the D7 Visa requirements?
What is the D7 Visa?
The D7 visa is an affordable and attractive visa allowing non-EU citizens to get Portuguese residency provided they have sufficient funds to sustain themselves during their stay in Portugal.
This visa is ideal for retirees or entrepreneurs who want to live in Portugal without having to make a major economic investment.
The D7 visa can then be renewed after one year for two successive periods of two years and can be converted into a permanent residence permit after five years.
Benefits of the Portugal D7 Visa
Permanent free entry and circulation in the Schengen area
Permanent free entry and circulation in the Schengen area
Live, work and study in Portugal
Live, work and study in Portugal
Tax benefits via NHR
Tax benefits via NHR
Benefit from the Portuguese health care system
Benefit from the Portuguese health care system
Fast visa process
Fast visa process
Entire family is eligible
Entire family is eligible
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No good for us motorhomers, I'm afraid - you have to have an address in Portugal and you will become subject to Portuguese tax on your income. But useful if you are planning to live there.
 
There are individual country visas - so, for example, you can stay in France for up to a year. Here is where you apply:-

Tourism - France-Visas

View all the details regarding your tourist or personal visa for France.
france-visas.gouv.fr france-visas.gouv.fr

I believe some others do this too or are talking about it. It is quite a pain and does cost money - but possible. When we are allowed to travel again it would be good to hear of people that have used such visas. We can collect country-by-country info.
 
Colinc said:
There are individual country visas - so, for example, you can stay in France for up to a year. Here is where you apply:-
I believe some others do this too or are talking about it. It is quite a pain and does cost money - but possible. When we are allowed to travel again it would be good to hear of people that have used such visas. We can collect country-by-country info.
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barryd said:
If only we could join some kind of Union that allowed free movement for all that were in it. :cool:
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Barry's idea might work. Wonder why no one has thought about doing it before? :unsure: :cool:
 
Colinc said:
There are individual country visas - so, for example, you can stay in France for up to a year. Here is where you apply:-

Tourism - France-Visas

View all the details regarding your tourist or personal visa for France.
france-visas.gouv.fr france-visas.gouv.fr

I believe some others do this too or are talking about it. It is quite a pain and does cost money - but possible. When we are allowed to travel again it would be good to hear of people that have used such visas. We can collect country-by-country info.
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You might be interested in this report of one person's experience of getting a long-stay French visa. How To Get a Long Stay Visa for France - Luxe Adventure Traveler .As you say, it is not easy and not cheap!
 
John H said:
You might be interested in this report of one person's experience of getting a long-stay French visa. How To Get a Long Stay Visa for France - Luxe Adventure Traveler .As you say, it is not easy and not cheap!
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Thanks - well at least it is possible rather than forget it. I wonder what will happen as they may find there are a few more Brits wanting to use such visas then ever there have been Americans and Australians etc. Maybe as the French love the English so much .... ;-)

Seriously I think this will only improve over time. And in the meantime will benefit from people pooling experience. We are new to van life having recently given up a boat in Greece ... so can offer experience there. Very likely to improve when Covid has gone as they really do need external cash coming into the country.

It is more likely to change at country level as to change Schengen would require a new treaty across a lot of countries (even more than EU27).
 
Colinc said:
Thanks - well at least it is possible rather than forget it. I wonder what will happen as they may find there are a few more Brits wanting to use such visas then ever there have been Americans and Australians etc. Maybe as the French love the English so much .... ;-)

Seriously I think this will only improve over time. And in the meantime will benefit from people pooling experience. We are new to van life having recently given up a boat in Greece ... so can offer experience there. Very likely to improve when Covid has gone as they really do need external cash coming into the country.

It is more likely to change at country level as to change Schengen would require a new treaty across a lot of countries (even more than EU27).
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Sadly it will be well down the agenda list of most countries. The amount of people it will effect is miniscule.
 
Does anyone know what happens at the end of the 180 day period. In this scenario....

You have to spend 90 out of 180 days but they dont have to be consecutive days. So if you go for a weekend to France your 180 day period will start. You've then got 88 days left in eu. If you come back to uk and wait until the last 88 days of the 180 day period before you go back to the eu then the end of your current 90 day period will end at the same time as the 180 day period.
So what happens then ?
Does a new 180 period start immediately and you can then spend another 90 days in eu or have you got to leave.
Cant find the answer to this anywhere
 
Sambarob said:
Does anyone know what happens at the end of the 180 day period. In this scenario....

You have to spend 90 out of 180 days but they dont have to be consecutive days. So if you go for a weekend to France your 180 day period will start. You've then got 88 days left in eu. If you come back to uk and wait until the last 88 days of the 180 day period before you go back to the eu then the end of your current 90 day period will end at the same time as the 180 day period.
So what happens then ?
Does a new 180 period start immediately and you can then spend another 90 days in eu or have you got to leave.
Cant find the answer to this anywhere
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It’s a rolling 180 day period, not two discrete 180 day chunks where one starts as the previous one ends. I think you are trying to wangle two stays of 88 and 90 days back to back by triggering one 180 day chunk in advance and tacking another one on afterwards. It does add up to 180 days out of 360 which seems to fit the sums but it does not work that way. Day 91 of your second trip will tip you over the limit. You need to count 180 days backwards from the day you are on and see how many days you have been in France (schengen zone). If it is more than 90 you are in trouble!
 
Yes. You're right I'm trying to find out if you can have two back to back 90 day periods.
So if I'm right you are saying you can have 90 days in the eu, since they dont have to be consecutive you could take 200 days to clock up your 90 days, but then once you have totalled 90 days you have to leave the eu for another consecutive 90 days before you can enter again.
If so do you have any links to where it actually says this because so far I cant find any.
So I'm still holding on to some hope !!!
 
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