What would you change about this community?

An indication of how big a poi is would be helpful for larger vehicles - if poi has been submitted by smaller camper it would be useful to know - we've been caught out a few times, as I'm sure others must also have found places which would be perfect for vdub or romahome would be impossible for anything larger.
 
I think the text description should be easier to access, but more importantly, it would be good for people to be able to easily add brief review comments which can also be shown in the app.

Both of these aspects will be available in the new POI system.
 
Yes, the old system will be reviewed at the start of 2018, I will see how many people have migrated. But it will be updated from the new system's database. There is no rush to kill it off.

The new system produces sat nav download files from the live database, so any updates are included instantly.
The new online map is much better than the old one. And includes more location types.
The new apps synchronise with the online map, so it only downloads updates.
You also don't need an activation code as they use your wild camping login to activate.



Thank you :wave:
 
Annie

The CC club thing has also crossed my mind, so to try and change things a little the event team have been discussing a meet with a difference for next year, cant say to much just yet as it is still in the planning stages , but it should be a meet with a difference and lots of fun

Ok, I know this is boring to most folks, but as a geocacher we have regular meets, some only for a few hours and some lasting for days or more, these are called CITO events. CITO stands for Cache In Trash Out.

I mention this because, as wilders, one of the most common things I see people mention is the mess/rubbish/litter that they come across. There are a few places I visit on a regular basis and when stopping over the first thing I do is walk around and locate any crap left lying around (usually while the kettle is boiling and dog is stretching her legs) ... after tea, I get my litter picker and bin out and collect everything in sight. On the odd occasion when someone drops litter in my view while I am there, I pointedly walk over with my litter picker and pick it up. In fact, this summer, I (unusually for me) stuck me neck out when a family with Glasgow accents turned up and one young lad of around 4 years old started throwing crisp packets off the side of the pier to watch them blowing in the wind. Both adults seemed completely oblivious of this, though they were watching him doing it. Eventually the opportunity arose where they started to pack up but dad(?) stepped out of the car and leaned on the barrier to light up his fag and I jumped at the opportunity to grab my rubbish bag and litter picker. I chatted to him for a few minutes and asked if they were getting ready to leave?

He said yep that it had been a nice day but they were heading north blah blah blah ... I replied, OK, I guess it's safe to go and pick up the rubbish the lad tossed out then so I don't have to climb down the rocks a second time as I wouldn't like locals to think I left it there.

He took the hint and climbed down and got it himself, the lad even got a telling off!

So, to surmise, why not try to introduce a WITO event or two each year?

WITO being an acronym for Wild In Trash Out. If there was a banner or two (or even an ad in a local paper inviting people to join us) helping to bring it to the attention of locals it may well help improve the general public's opinion of Wilders.
 
I get the comments about wild camping ay be bit intimidatinf. However, when I first joined here, I wasnt intimidated and didnt join as a hard core off roader. Just a 'middle of road' camper van wanting to not stay on sites all of the tie. I ddnt feel I needed to be a touhie.

However, having done our two wek hol and seingg some 'hard core off road' camper vans, I wondered bruefly if we didnt belong on thi site. But it s not true. I se there are all all levels of people her (in terms of going 'wild')and Iam still a much novice in an urban van with loew taps (grrrrr very low, why is that???) but I feel welcome here amongst erious off roaders and those like me who want tostay domewhere because we like it and also cant afford to pay loads to #park;.

I like the al encompassing feel here, allowing for banter an jibes, not taking fools, and with common purpoese.

Hear Hear ... or is it Here Here?
 
Ok, I know this is boring to most folks, but as a geocacher we have regular meets, some only for a few hours and some lasting for days or more, these are called CITO events. CITO stands for Cache In Trash Out.

I mention this because, as wilders, one of the most common things I see people mention is the mess/rubbish/litter that they come across. There are a few places I visit on a regular basis and when stopping over the first thing I do is walk around and locate any crap left lying around (usually while the kettle is boiling and dog is stretching her legs) ... after tea, I get my litter picker and bin out and collect everything in sight. On the odd occasion when someone drops litter in my view while I am there, I pointedly walk over with my litter picker and pick it up. In fact, this summer, I (unusually for me) stuck me neck out when a family with Glasgow accents turned up and one young lad of around 4 years old started throwing crisp packets off the side of the pier to watch them blowing in the wind. Both adults seemed completely oblivious of this, though they were watching him doing it. Eventually the opportunity arose where they started to pack up but dad(?) stepped out of the car and leaned on the barrier to light up his fag and I jumped at the opportunity to grab my rubbish bag and litter picker. I chatted to him for a few minutes and asked if they were getting ready to leave?

He said yep that it had been a nice day but they were heading north blah blah blah ... I replied, OK, I guess it's safe to go and pick up the rubbish the lad tossed out then so I don't have to climb down the rocks a second time as I wouldn't like locals to think I left it there.

He took the hint and climbed down and got it himself, the lad even got a telling off!

So, to surmise, why not try to introduce a WITO event or two each year?

WITO being an acronym for Wild In Trash Out. If there was a banner or two (or even an ad in a local paper inviting people to join us) helping to bring it to the attention of locals it may well help improve the general public's opinion of Wilders.

Like it Ron.

Maybe a sticker to stick on the litter bin reading 'This site was litter picked by Wildcamping.co.uk' :)
 
Narcissist people,

argue, argue all the time that they are right and every one else is wrong.

narcissist, a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.

I don't understand the relevance of this post to the thread.
 
I would also like to see all members encouraged to fill in details about themselves in their profiles.

This needn't be anything too specific, but make of van and general location would be useful.

The make of van could also be included in the top corner of each post as the location already is.

I have reservations about that, I personally like my privacy and in the event of a fall-out it could be possible for someone to exact vengeance upon a member for offending him, taking into consideration how easily some people can be offended then all hell could break out. An imagined case of road rage for instance, you are innocently driving along and someone takes umbrage at you for driving a large/slow vehicle then they could possibly track you down, let's face it, it wouldn't be difficult to find most of us on here if we really tried.
 
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Like it Ron.

Maybe a sticker to stick on the litter bin reading 'This site was litter picked by Wildcamping.co.uk' :)

As long as the sticker didn't cause frowns by being classed as litter then, yes, a nice idea.
 
Picking litter has got nothing to do with it. The site is actively marketing POI to garner additional footfall, actively promoting meets buying defribs....thus a direction which is a clear departure from the core values in the past . I am not saying it is right wrong or indifferent but care needs to be afforded to the longer term members who provided the core values in the first place. I see a serious case for dis enfranchisement at the moment

Channa
 
An indication of how big a poi is would be helpful for larger vehicles - if poi has been submitted by smaller camper it would be useful to know - we've been caught out a few times, as I'm sure others must also have found places which would be perfect for vdub or romahome would be impossible for anything larger.

The new system does now have vehicle size attributes.
 
Picking litter has got nothing to do with it. The site is actively marketing POI to garner additional footfall, actively promoting meets buying defribs....thus a direction which is a clear departure from the core values in the past . I am not saying it is right wrong or indifferent but care needs to be afforded to the longer term members who provided the core values in the first place. I see a serious case for dis enfranchisement at the moment

Channa

The thing is Andy, (and I don't know for sure), but I would imagine that the majority of members have joined in the last 4 or 5 years, and the site has had to evolve.

The rules have changed in the outside world, wildcamping as we know it is becoming more and more difficult in the UK and we need to adjust accordingly, not helped by the massive increase in the amount of motorhomes on the road and the public perception of us, let alone the councils.

I agree that we shouldn't forget the very reasons we came into being and the core values etc. But, some rethinking is required or we will fall by the wayside.
 
The thing is Andy, (and I don't know for sure), but I would imagine that the majority of members have joined in the last 4 or 5 years, and the site has had to evolve.

The rules have changed in the outside world, wildcamping as we know it is becoming more and more difficult in the UK and we need to adjust accordingly, not helped by the massive increase in the amount of motorhomes on the road and the public perception of us, let alone the councils.

I agree that we shouldn't forget the very reasons we came into being and the core values etc. But, some rethinking is required or we will fall by the wayside.


Nicely put Rob . I think that statement sums up the W/C community as it stands at this moment in time, and we need to keep moving forward to survive
 
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Why do we arrange camping events?


Did you know that more 70% of our core members attend meets? We are now a real world community as well as an online community. We enjoy spending time together in real life as well as behind a keyboard.


Why do we arrange food at these events?


We have organised food at meets for several reasons, but one good one is that it brings all the people at the meet to one place at one time. This means people get to meet and chat and have a great time. It can be a lot of work to feed 120 mouths in a field, but we have a great bunch of people (unsung heroes) who muck in and make it happen.


Why do we arrange firewood at these events?


We have now started to arrange fire wood to be delivered to larger meets. No one is forced to pay for firewood, people have a choice if they want to chip in £3 or not. I do not pressure people into it and for those that I know don't sit around the fire, I don't even ask. We get more wood for our money, and it is clean and produces less smoke than some of the wood that people bring.


But I don't like meets, and I think they go against our ethos


If you don't like meets, then don't come. It is that simple. But do not moan because you are upset that others are having a great time doing something that you don't want to do.


I am feed of up seeing all the meet posts


Rallies, meets and gatherings appear on their own forums (current and archive) and they do not appear in the activity stream. And they have a smaller window on the front page.


I like little spontaneous meets


If you prefer small informal gatherings, then arrange one. Don't moan because other people are not organising one for you.


Have some respect, please


Planning for a meet can take lot of time and effort, it is not as simple as it seems to the people who just attend. Without a team of dedicated volunteers who give their time and energy to enrich the lives of others, this would not happen. So I find it infuriating when people who don't even attend meets sit here slagging them off.


Finally

I was the very first member of this community. I am the person who set the direction that we have travelled. I am the person who with the consultation of the members steers us into the future. I make decisions not based on the demands of the few, but based on what I believe is best for us all, and so far my judgement has helped build probably the best motor home community in the World. This, of course, would not have been possible without the dedication and passion of our members.

We are a diverse community of people with one thing in common; we like the freedom of a motor home. I believe that we are the most accepting and tolerant motor home community. So please let us try and tolerate the wants of other members.
 

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