What is the MAM of my motorhome?
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Channa
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I assume the reasoning behind your question is the renewal of driving licence at 70 ?
Unless you have reason to believe your licence will be revoked I would have the medical and retain Grandfather rights.
If you are happy to be restricted to 3500 kgs ....then fair enough but ask the question of DVLA. I know on caravans the law changed 2014 Drivers who passed their test after that are restricted to 3500 kgs including trailer. The important part as I understand it is the potential GTW that is considered not actuals.
If that is the case It would mean under the new regime at 5400 kgs potential your licence new one would not cover you .That is my understanding.
In effect what I am suggesting and needs clarification is
1) you have a pre 97 licence which gives a mam of 8250 kgs.
2) Jan 97 -2014 ...the mam can be over 3500 kgs but the actual weight or combination cannot exceed 3500 kgs
3) From 2014 the Mam cannot exceed 3500 kgs including trailer.
As you can see a subtle but significant difference.
What would concern me is if they renew your licence that complies with the 3rd option.
Channa
Unless you have reason to believe your licence will be revoked I would have the medical and retain Grandfather rights.
If you are happy to be restricted to 3500 kgs ....then fair enough but ask the question of DVLA. I know on caravans the law changed 2014 Drivers who passed their test after that are restricted to 3500 kgs including trailer. The important part as I understand it is the potential GTW that is considered not actuals.
If that is the case It would mean under the new regime at 5400 kgs potential your licence new one would not cover you .That is my understanding.
In effect what I am suggesting and needs clarification is
1) you have a pre 97 licence which gives a mam of 8250 kgs.
2) Jan 97 -2014 ...the mam can be over 3500 kgs but the actual weight or combination cannot exceed 3500 kgs
3) From 2014 the Mam cannot exceed 3500 kgs including trailer.
As you can see a subtle but significant difference.
What would concern me is if they renew your licence that complies with the 3rd option.
Channa
Channa
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That seems to reinforce my understanding Graham
I got the date wrong Jan 2013 ...it seems after that the MAM or theoretical GTW can not exceed 3500 kgs. it now seems based on theoretical weight rather than actual....where 1997 -2013 3500 kgs combined is the limit but the potential GTW MAM could exceed that.
I hope I am making sense
Channa
alwaysared
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I'm not sure if the fact your 70 makes a difference but the dates you're quoting are not related to the issue of a licence but to the passing of the driving test, so anyone who passed their test before 1997 can drive a MAM of 8250kg regardless of when it was actually issued. I may be missing your point here and if I am I'm sorry.
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Del
Channa
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I think you have misunderstood, on reaching 70 and having to renew your licence , Unless you take a medical your licence will be renewed with post 97 restrictions I am 100 percent certain of that....what I am not sure about is if the latest renewal issue now takes in account the post 2013 conditions which has significant impact .
If you don't take the medical grandfather rights are lost and your licence renewed post 97....what I am questioning is whether that has changed to post 2013
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Channa
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Hi Graham re Alwaysareds post it seems we are on the same wavelength
I have got it in my head a medical required , that aside if you just simply renew your licence the 8250 kgs limit disappears and you are re issued with a post 97 licence which restricts to 3500 kgs. of that I am 100 percent certain .
It seems from your links the 2013 conditions don't apply
Channa
I have got it in my head a medical required , that aside if you just simply renew your licence the 8250 kgs limit disappears and you are re issued with a post 97 licence which restricts to 3500 kgs. of that I am 100 percent certain .
It seems from your links the 2013 conditions don't apply
Channa
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Not without an eyetest it can't...A licence will be reissued but with post 97 conditions
lifted from the NCC website
To check the licence you need to drive various types of motorhome, and any age restrictions, see the official Goverment website advice.
•Drivers who passed their test before 1st January 1997, can drive a motorhome weighing up to 7,500 kg MTPLM/MAM (Maximum Technically Permissable Laden Mass/ maximum authorised mass) on their B licence.
•When that driver achieves the age of 70, they can retain the right to drive a vehicle of up to 3,500 kg MTPLM on the same basis as for a car i.e. three year renewal (see also note below).
•If the driver wishes to continue to drive a vehicle over 3500kg at 70+, they must pass an eye test and submit the medical form D4, completed by their doctor, with their renewal application
•If a driver passed their test after 1st January 1997, they can drive a motorhome of up to 3500kg on a B licence
•If the driver wishes to drive a motorhome of 3.501 kg MTPLM - 7500kg MTPLM, they must take an additional test to obtain a C1 licence.
•For all drivers: Over 7,500 kg MTPLM a full C driving licence is required, which in turn means passing the relevant C test.
Licence Definitions
Category B
With this category on your driving licence you can drive vehicles with a maximum authorised mass (MAM) of up to 3500 kilograms (kg), with eight passenger seats, and with a trailer no heavier than 750kg.
It's also possible to tow a trailer heavier than 750kg if the MAM of the vehicle and trailer together is no more than 3500kg. The trailer must also be lighter than the vehicle towing it.
To tow a heavier trailer than mentioned above you'll need category B+E.
Category C1
With this category you can drive vehicles with a MAM over 3500kg but less than 7500kg with a trailer no heavier than 750kg. To tow a heavier trailer you'll need category C1+E. Note: A recent European Directive allowed for relaxation of the complexity of this C1 test for motorhomers, in recognition of the fact theirs is a private vehicle for leisure use. This 'Code 97' change has, however, not yet been implemented in the UK.
Category C
With this category you can drive vehicles with a MAM over 3500kg with a trailer no heavier than 750kg. To tow a trailer that weighs more than 750kg you'll need category C+E.
All as clear has mud !!!
Channa