Weight upgrade on my motorhome.

Just been looking at the posts saying it is cheaper to tax over 3500kg. My van is rated at 3900kg but pay full rate as it is not on the log book. Is there a for to fill in to change it or just send the details to DVLA

You will need to be able to prove the current weight. I am surprised it is plated at 3900Kg and not registered with the DVLA at that weight.
 
The van might be plated at 3900kg but has it previously been downrated to 3500kg ( for over 70`s ) hence the higher VED ?

You`ll need the C of C ( Certificate of Conformity ) to prove it`s rated at 3900kg.
 
You will need to be able to prove the current weight. I am surprised it is plated at 3900Kg and not registered with the DVLA at that weight.



When i bought my motorhome new from a local dealer it was plated at 3,850kg but the dealer had registered it as 3,500kg on the V5.

12 months VED was included in the sale so i only noticed the mistake when it became time to renew the VED 12 months later when the rate was higher than expected.

The DVLA couldn`t / wouldn`t sort it straight away so i had to pay the higher rate so i could still use it until it was eventually sorted nearly 6 months down the line.

Back then the DVLA still had offices and we had one in Preston and even though i thought i`d sorted it twice when the V5 came back from Swansea it was still wrong.

I eventually blocked the car park with it at the offices here in Preston and that soon got a response with security and then a senior manager.

I never did get an apology and at one point was told it was my fault and i was liable to prosecution for not ensuring the DVLA had the correct info about the vehicle.

It took a further 12 months to get a refund for the excess VED i`d paid, so all in it took 18 months from start to finish.
 
The van might be plated at 3900kg but has it previously been downrated to 3500kg ( for over 70`s ) hence the higher VED ?

You`ll need the C of C ( Certificate of Conformity ) to prove it`s rated at 3900kg.

The tax rate seems to be also dependant on if it is down on the V5C as a PLG or HGV irrespective of the declared weight.

Strange I know, but when I bought my Van it was a 4.6t; was recorded on the V5C as being a 4600KG weight, but the category was a PLG and the tax rate was the typical £265/Year.
I submitted a change from PLG to HGV at the same time I changed it from being a Minibus to a Van/Windows (no proof of any weight change as I wasn't doing that) and the tax went down to the HGV rate.
What confused me also was I know someone with a similar VW LT Minibus originally owned by the same Council. His was still recorded as a Minibus (same as mine originally) and even though his was a 3.5t van, he was paying at the HGV tax rate of £160. So two vehicles with the taxes reversed.

So my conclusion is there can be errors made on the V5C very easily and by the DVLA. (someone on the VW Forum recently requested a change to their T4 Panel Van to be an MPV after fitting some seats and the DVLA did it - MPVs can only be cars and that is a change request that is invariably refused, so he must have caught a break with an Admin newbie).
 
Just thought of this.

Can you upgrade your van above 3500kg on a c1 license, then when you turn 70 lower it back to 3500kg.
 
Just thought of this.

Can you upgrade your van above 3500kg on a c1 license, then when you turn 70 lower it back to 3500kg.
you can. A very common occurance to save on road tax. and of course increased payload.
But ... you need to consider possible consequences...

Would it be useful to keep your van accessible to someone without a C1 entitlement (maybe a Son or Daughter?)
Does your breakdown service cover HGVs (standard RAC and AA cover maximum weight of 3500kg)

The £100 pa saving may not outweigh these cons (but then again,maybe it would? only you can decide)
 
you can. A very common occurance to save on road tax. and of course increased payload.
But ... you need to consider possible consequences...

Would it be useful to keep your van accessible to someone without a C1 entitlement (maybe a Son or Daughter?)
Does your breakdown service cover HGVs (standard RAC and AA cover maximum weight of 3500kg)

The £100 pa saving may not outweigh these cons (but then again,maybe it would? only you can decide)

Thanks for the reply.

I was just being inquisitive, I have no intentions of doing so.
 
Direct action!

When i bought my motorhome new from a local dealer it was plated at 3,850kg but the dealer had registered it as 3,500kg on the V5.

12 months VED was included in the sale so i only noticed the mistake when it became time to renew the VED 12 months later when the rate was higher than expected.

The DVLA couldn`t / wouldn`t sort it straight away so i had to pay the higher rate so i could still use it until it was eventually sorted nearly 6 months down the line.

Back then the DVLA still had offices and we had one in Preston and even though i thought i`d sorted it twice when the V5 came back from Swansea it was still wrong.

I eventually blocked the car park with it at the offices here in Preston and that soon got a response with security and then a senior manager.

I never did get an apology and at one point was told it was my fault and i was liable to prosecution for not ensuring the DVLA had the correct info about the vehicle.

It took a further 12 months to get a refund for the excess VED i`d paid, so all in it took 18 months from start to finish.

Love it, that’s how you get them slow cogs turning! Parking across the entrance, and seeing as parking has nowt to do with police anymore, I bet that senior manager rang 101 to be told the police can’t move you on unless your blocking an emergency vehicles access, Well done sir!
 

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