Wee bit advice needed

Wee bit advice needed.

sinner said:
Also the problem is I am in Edinburgh, van is in marquis Durham and I am also stuck in hospital with the kid so everything is being done ishy pishy :-(
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You're getting some good advice from forum members, particularly with regard to sourcing advice from Fiat specialist garages, and the extra info you have supplied all helps, smell of hot glycol coolant is quite clear and sweet, quite different to hot clutch, why do they smell of fish ? lol. Possible engine has gone into limp home mode if overheating or coolant loss, and this will generate a fault code possibly more than one fault code (all related) ? My suggestion for what its worth, see if diagnostic check comes back with a coolant related fault/s, and how much to fix ? make a decision / put it to the panel ..

A three litre diesel will have a bigger clutch than a smaller engined vehicles, bigger is better with clutches, even DMF's can if not abused last 90k or more, realise you may not know vehicles history, but 30k is nothing to a commercial vehicle. 200k + more like it ...

Good luck with the Duc diagnostic's and hope junior out of hospital soonest.

Rgrds,

Rob H.
 
I had taken the van down to them as it was nearing end off warranty and had a few things to get sorted, then on way I had the engine fault, I was on way to Hungary, dropped the van off and all the faults were sorted Inc new floor (part) but when I called on Monday they told me about this fault, as im in hosp with the kid I am more worried about her and not really taken everything they has said, but I did talk to the gen manager and he wont budge on the warranty or help with cost, so looks like I will need to bite the bullet.

cheers for all the help and advice I will update tomorrow once I have the diagnostic report.
 
I would also like to point out, up to now Marquis have been fantastic with there after sales, and I am hopping this will continue and I do not think there is anything in them sending to another garage as they are not equipped to deal with my problem.
 
I have no idea what you are on about.

Marquis (the Dealer) have found a suspected problem and want to take it to a Main Fiat/Citroen/Peugeot Commercial Truck Dealer who work on Sevel vehicles. So they are doing exactly as you propose but you seem to have a problem with that. It would cost Marquis thousands of £ to equip themselves with all the diagnostic equipment needed for modern vehicles (plus the fact it would have to be suitable for Ford, Renault, Mercedes, Iveco and Nissan engines). Not only do they need access to the engine codes, they need expert advice and cost of whatever problem the experts diagnose.

I have already stated that the projected cost is around the normal cost of a clutch/DMF replacement. So who is the middle man and what extra costs are involved?
 
dicus said:
Is it the clutch or could it be a flywheel problem, clutches either work or slip and if its not slipping then a strip down is needed.
Good Luck
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Not true,clutches can work and hold but may have the release bearing to tight on diaphragm which leads to the fingers breaking up,normaly slip with this setup though not always, and they may close ok but drag due to either oil ,warped or plate sticking on main drive shaft.
I have even seen chafed cable cause trouble to ,and on one car i did the engine mounts had gave way jamming the release lever.
Nothing is always that simple except me.:scared:
 
For info only, Marquis Durham were charging £60 an hour for doing re-sealing work on motorhomes, heavens knows what the labour charge would be for diesel work, as others have suggested take it to someone who knows what they are doing.
 
I bought a 2nd hand Swift Mondial on a Ducato from Lowdhams Huddersfield, nearly 10 months and 8000 mls later the clutch slave cylinder leaked contaminating the clutch. The repair was carried out by Fiat Northern Commercials Brighouse. The cost was very nearly £1500. With a lot of co-operation between Lowhams and Northern Commercials and myself the job got covered under warranty except for £150 I had to pay. Which I was more than happy with. Check your warranty, a lot seem to think they are not worth the paper they are printed on, but mine and Lowdhams have been excellent.
 
nope david, you have not upset me I just want to keep this thread on topic for the time being :)
 
sak said:
The intercooler cools the air before it goes into the turbo it has nothing to do with engine coolant, you would loose power if an intercooler pipe split or came off but it is an easy fix you just replace the broken part with a new one, but as to where the clutch comes into this scenario puzzles me.
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No it cools the compressed air after the turbo before entering the cylinders hense the name inter.
 
Its the turbo seals that leak the oil,the inter cooler has only the air going through it and the forced air through the grill .
And yes i to have seen a trany rev to bits/rods out the side because of the oil being sucked into air stream from turbo seal david.
 
100% david ,i do remember a toyota hiace owned by a paper co here brought to the workshop when the driver took his foot of the gas on m/way the engine ran on,turned out to be very worn valve guides,mind you it was on the 4th time round the clock.
 
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Hi hope you get something out of dealer. Just this point I've had vans all my live as I'm a builder so I take one of my transit trucks to a garage for clutch fully supplied and fitted £700. I then take a transit motorhome to same garage same repair they tried to charge £1250 . They think a motorhome justifies a 50% hike Just a point sorry to be negative but this is my experiace turn up with a standard ducato van I guarantee repair to be halved they think we're all mugs cheers wully
 
well they came back to me stating it was wear an tear so a nice wee hit to my pocket, but cheers for all the advice and help guys, pity I was so tied up with other things to take most off the advice and do something about it..........but ya live and learn :)


cheers

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Now you know why I would not own a 3.0 Ducato. I have to reverse my van up my sloping driveway. I would be replacing the clutch every 10,000 miles. :(

Let me know when you are picking it up.
 
kito

Hi 30,000 is low mileage for a clutch to go it must have had a hard life. A clutch should do a lot more miles than that,

Tip If you park your van up for more than a week, Don't leave it in gear and don't leave the hand brake on if atoll possible rather choke wheels as the brake shoes can rust and can bond to drums, Same with the clutch and if it bonds to the fly wheel you wont get it out of gear Start it up and run the engine press the clutch pedal few times and select a gear and just slip the clutch a few times just to clean the plates, Or better still give the van a short run,


That could be the cause of the early clutch fail your because if it sticks it weakens the pressure plate and that can lead to a slipping clutch
 
wakk44 said:
Yes,I have noticed that,it's a real shame as he does some useful posts but does need to exercise more self control.Some members just can't help themselves and don't realise how pompous and self righteous they sound.
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and those who comment on others alleged pomposity are in danger of sounding the same way........ just like I am doing now....

If you don't like David's posts ... - including his apology - then ignore them/him
 
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