Wax oil treatment

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A few weeks ago there was a thread talking about the best solution for treating a van chassis , but I cant find the posting. Does anyone have advice for treating a 14 year old converted for transit please
 

Wax Oiling

Having scurried around under this van (nearly 2 years old now) I have noticed just a hint of rusting on the underside here and there. Does anyone have first had experience of wax oiling and whether or not it’s worthwhile for the cost (£450 quoted) ??
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I'd avoid Waxoyl... Its old tech now and there are far better products out there... Dinitrol/buzzweld/POR products etc
 
I use waxol but add a rust inhibitor, yes old had but anything is better than nout, think you van is to old now and the tin worm is in there.
 
My 23 year old LR Discovery 1 would, if it could, say that waxoil, even if old tech is still good. The chassis is completely rust free. I waxoiled my new Dreamer 55 last year, about a week after I got it. I then give it a blow over once a year on a hot summers day to make sure it gets into the nooks and crannies. At the sametime it gives me an opportunity to check out the underside of the van. Would recommend.
 
NorthS said:
My 23 year old LR Discovery 1 would, if it could, say that waxoil, even if old tech is still good. The chassis is completely rust free. I waxoiled my new Dreamer 55 last year, about a week after I got it. I then give it a blow over once a year on a hot summers day to make sure it gets into the nooks and crannies. At the sametime it gives me an opportunity to check out the underside of the van. Would recommend.
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I wasn't saying Waxoyl isn't better than nothing BUT there are far far more effective products out there now...
With much Superior creep/self healing and application properties
 
mistericeman said:
I wasn't saying Waxoyl isn't better than nothing BUT there are far far more effective products out there now...
With much Superior creep/self healing and application properties
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I did some Waxoyl treatment last year but the recommended "pump up" pressure sprayer used to apply it kept blocking up at the nozzles halfway through the contents
Even though I heated the Waxoyl up in hot water as per the instructions , and added 10% - 20% white spirit as recommended to thin the waxoyl the nozzle still clogged up many times. I used a litre of white spirit to flush out the sprayer several times.
Does anyone have better stories of other products, are they easier to apply and get into the box sections ?
 
If you already are waxoiled are you best to top up with the same or maybe consider mistericemans recommendations?
 
Pedalman said:
I did some Waxoyl treatment last year but the recommended "pump up" pressure sprayer used to apply it kept blocking up at the nozzles halfway through the contents
Even though I heated the Waxoyl up in hot water as per the instructions , and added 10% - 20% white spirit as recommended to thin the waxoyl the nozzle still clogged up many times. I used a litre of white spirit to flush out the sprayer several times.
Does anyone have better stories of other products, are they easier to apply and get into the box sections ?
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The pump up waxoyle sprayer is rubbish, seek out the the hand sprayer with angled 6" extension tube. Add bout 20% diesel to your mix and warm it before application, trick is to get your concoction to really atomise high into hollow sections, to drift everywhere and then creep in box sections, its of limited use on external surfaces where road spray will blast it off. Under a new van, brush paint all bare alloy with etch primer then lightly spray with ACF 5O. Heavy brush paint all black painted components, and brake pipes with Leyland Direct to Metal Black, or slightly harder to apply, Hammerite. Be aware no paint will adhere to factory sprayed wax. Good luck with your project.
 
Pedalman said:
I did some Waxoyl treatment last year but the recommended "pump up" pressure sprayer used to apply it kept blocking up at the nozzles halfway through the contents
Even though I heated the Waxoyl up in hot water as per the instructions , and added 10% - 20% white spirit as recommended to thin the waxoyl the nozzle still clogged up many times. I used a litre of white spirit to flush out the sprayer several times.
Does anyone have better stories of other products, are they easier to apply and get into the box sections ?
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Here is the proper kit.
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Tookey said:
If you already are waxoiled are you best to top up with the same or maybe consider mistericemans recommendations?
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I only got halfway along my van with Waxoyl last summer and because of the sprayer clogging up I gave up so I have the front 50% to do this summer. I'm looking to find some easier to apply treatment but if not I'll be plodding on with Waxoyl again.....Maybe I could make it warmer and add more white spirit to stop it clogging up the nozzles.

You could well be right about not topping up / over spraying with different products, what you say makes sense. I wonder if anyone will chip in with some experience about having a reaction ?
 
Pedalman said:
I only got halfway along my van with Waxoyl last summer and because of the sprayer clogging up I gave up so I have the front 50% to do this summer. I'm looking to find some easier to apply treatment but if not I'll be plodding on with Waxoyl again.....Maybe I could make it warmer and add more white spirit to stop it clogging up the nozzles.

You could well be right about not topping up / over spraying with different products, what you say makes sense. I wonder if anyone will chip in with some experience about having a reaction ?
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My above post is the only way to do waxoyl
 
trevskoda said:
My above post is the only way to do waxoyl
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Yes, I had thought I need more pressure than the pump up sprayer can provide. Now you mention it, the cost of the compressor and gun is very little compared to the cost of getting body panels wheel arches , and cills replaced or welded . The plastic pump up sprayer costs £30 !!
I might just invest in that Clarke compressor and paraffin spray gun. Do you still need to dilute the Waxoyl when using this equipment ?
Thanks.
 
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greg1 said:
A few weeks ago there was a thread talking about the best solution for treating a van chassis , but I cant find the posting. Does anyone have advice for treating a 14 year old converted for transit please
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That was my thread (search - Wax Oiling). Ended up getting it done just over a week ago and very happy with the result. Apart from the slight whiff, but I’m sure that’ll go.
 
witzend said:
Use one of these with a air compressor
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That looks spot on and pretty good price. The Flexi pipe for box sections is great. I think I will be getting myself a compressor and this gun to complete my Waxoyl job in the summer. I suppose Machine Mart will have the airline from the compressor to the gun.
 
Pedalman said:
That looks spot on and pretty good price. The Flexi pipe for box sections is great. I think I will be getting myself a compressor and this gun to complete my Waxoyl job in the summer. I suppose Machine Mart will have the airline from the compressor to the gun.
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That is the same type of gun I used when I was in the body repair trade. It works well providing you have enough air. 7 cfm should be ok but if the pressure drops just wait for it to build up again. We used the same thing for underseal but with out any nozzle attatchement, just the straight pipe.
 
Pedalman said:
Yes, I had thought I need more pressure than the pump up sprayer can provide. Now you mention it, the cost of the compressor and gun is very little compared to the cost of getting body panels wheel arches , and cills replaced or welded . The plastic pump up sprayer costs £30 !!
I might just invest in that Clarke compressor and paraffin spray gun. Do you still need to dilute the Waxoyl when using this equipment ?
Thanks.
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Yes and i add some of the rust inhibitors as extra, add 20% white spirit, the comp will be handy for doing tyres and i use mine to spray my fence and garden sheds with the parafin gun.
 
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