Use of Radar Toilet Keys - My personal opinion

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This is my personal opinion of the use of Radar Keys by unauthorised persons.

A Radar Key is designed for disabled people to allow them access to the toilets.

If you are not disabled, then facilities that you use are not put there for you and you do not have rights to use them or the services held within them.

Opening a locked door to enter a premises that you do not have a right to enter is trespassing. Using the toilet roll is criminal damage and using the water and electricity is theft of services.


 
I agree totally with this as I've seen in French Car Parks Disabled Spaces if you want my place take my disability as well
 
As a registered disabled person my own opinion is this,
In an emergency non disabled people should be able to use this service.
But it must be left clean!!!!!
Don’t stand in front of a disabled person in the queue for this service thinking and saying I pay my taxes, I have as much right to this service as you, YOU DON’T!!!!
Well said admin, and good of you to show the courage to say so, thanks from all the disabled people.
 
Yes an no, the issuers of Radar keys actually offer them to many people who may not be eligible for a disabled pass or benefit but can have urgent need to use a toilet. Just as not every disability is 'visible' to observers equally the urgent need to use the toilet is not always distinguished by a disabled badge. For example my heart medication can give me an urgent need to use the toilet but my arthritis is noy bad enough to warrant a blue badge.

PS I do not have a radar key as I find their toilets are even rarer than public toilets
 
Admin said:
This is my personal opinion of the use of Radar Keys by unauthorised persons.

A Radar Key is designed for disabled people to allow them access to the toilets.

If you are not disabled, then facilities that you use are not put there for you and you do not have rights to use them or the services held within them.

Opening a locked door to enter a premises that you do not have a right to enter is trespassing. Using the toilet roll is criminal damage and using the water and electricity is theft of services.
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That's all well & good in theory, but in practice would you prefer a non-disabled person to poo in the street because all the general public facilities have been locked?
 
Important - We only sell the Radar NKS Key to people who require use of the toilet facilities due to their disability or health condition. Please tick the box in the check out area.
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That is a quote from the RADAR website. Just because you have a key, does not mean you have the rights to use the toilets.
 
Smaug said:
That's all well & good in theory, but in practice would you prefer a non-disabled person to poo in the street because all the general public facilities have been locked?
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Other than in an emergency, why would a person need to poo in the street? I have always managed to be able to find a toilet that I am allowed to use?
 
Smaug said:
That's all well & good in theory, but in practice would you prefer a non-disabled person to poo in the street because all the general public facilities have been locked?
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If I follow that logic then all of us should demand a key as of right, just for those occasions when we are too idle to find a convenience. I haven't seen any people defecating in the street either......ever!
John
 
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Other than in an emergency, why would a person need to poo in the street? I have always managed to be able to find a toilet that I am allowed to use?
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So you do accept that "in an emergency" it would be better to use the toilet than go in the street? Incidentally I have had to clean up after lorry drivers who have defecated in my office doorway when parked overnight outside. Maybe you are just lucky or don't often stray far from home or your MH loo, or you don't mind knocking on doors late at night to ask people if you can use their toilet.

Often there are alternatives such as pubs, hotels, bus & railway stations etc, but not always & not everywhere.
 
siimplyloco said:
If I follow that logic then all of us should demand a key as of right, just for those occasions when we are too idle to find a convenience. I haven't seen any people defecating in the street either......ever!
John
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You are not looking hard enough. :lol-049:

We overnighted at Luss on Loch Lomond one night. A scruffy bulk tipper parked in front of us. In the morning, he had gone but he left a souvenir in the road. :p
 
maingate said:
You are not looking hard enough. :lol-049:

We overnighted at Luss on Loch Lomond one night. A scruffy bulk tipper parked in front of us. In the morning, he had gone but he left a souvenir in the road. :p
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He lives in Hamble & I doubt they allow bulk tippers in their town.
 
Smaug said:
He lives in Hamble & I doubt they allow bulk tippers in their town.
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We get quite a lot of bulk fuel tankers in Hamble Lane, but they don't take prisoners or stop to leave 'messages'!

Why are we getting bogged down in a rather futile debate? There are those who think they can use facilities thoughtfully provided exclusively for others, and those who wouldn't dream of it. Nothing uttered here will change that.
John
 
Too much political correctness in our nanny state if you ask me.I will stop using the radar key when i see the disabled parking their cars in the correct place,instead of parking wherever they feel like and in dangerous places like i see all the time,accidents waiting to happen.I will stop using my radar key when the blue badge is scrapped and badges are reissued to the genuine disabled like my father in law who is in a wheel chair and paralised from the solar plexis down.
The doctors are handing these badges out like confetti and are at fault for this abuse.Seems like if you are over 60 you qualify for one.When this happens i will hand over my key.This is my opinion ,i also have a canal network key which i also use for the services and guess what i dont have a canal boat.

More important things to worry about in life.
 
@Admin

Phil the reason you can always make it too a loo you can use is because you fly, sorry i meant drive a rocket. LOL
 
£$%^ happens.......... be thankful some say they cant go when away from home
i mean really.... is it that important we are watching n snearing at people cos they use the wrong toilet
and i think youll find these toilets are provided by the tax payer so it gives everyone the right to use them if they leave them to the standard they found them ....IN MY OPINION
lets just all go campin n talk about summat else....this topic is 2 sh2t
just read your reply coolasluck (thats hard to spell right) i agree with ya there bud
 
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To be honest, Im surprised this radar key thing and who should shouldnt have keys doesnt raise its head more often than it does.

I lived full time for 4 years in my van and never found the need to acquire or want a key

Channa
 
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witzend said:
Radar Keys are available on Ebay Disabled Toilet Alarm | eBay
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this link is false the keys advertised are personal front door keys adapted
i'm registered disabled & these keys are difficult to obtain for disabled people they are given free by the town hall in most cases lose it and a second will cost a tenner proof of dla or blue badge needs to be shown
 
Well, seeing as I started all this, I'd better say my piece before I go.

I am not entirely against somebody using a Disabled toilet if they are caught short and absolutely desperate. What I am against is obtaining a key from Ebay in order to empty your cassette in a facility which is provided for the disabled, but to then openly brag about it on a public forum which is trying to promote or even defend wild camping just beggars belief.

I wonder if any of the councillors who we give so much grief ever look on these forums for ammunition to use against us? There's plenty here!

No wonder everybody looks on motorhomers as arrogant!

Byee!:wave:
 
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