UK aires.

[Deleted member 2636]

It is an exemption certificate from DEFRA
From the SBMCC website

We also obtained a DEFRA certificate for England in 2007 through the hard work of Stan Dyer (former Director and Treasurer), we have recently obtained a DEFRA exemption for Wales.

As far as I can remember, it means that you can approach a Landowner and allow them to use your certificate for the purposes of your holding a Rally.
The real sticking point is being able to show that you have the relevant 3rd party liability insurances in place and those don't come cheap

 

[Deleted member 967]

It is an exemption certificate from DEFRA
From the SBMCC website

As far as I can remember, it means that you can approach a Landowner and allow them to use your certificate for the purposes of your holding a Rally.
The real sticking point is being able to show that you have the relevant 3rd party liability insurances in place and those don't come cheap

The insurance is matter between the exempted group and the land owner. The exempted group hire the land from the owner. Some demand to see a certificate some don't bother. It has nothing to do with Natural England granting an exemption.

The group holds and uses the certificate it has nothing to do with the landowner. Any number of vans are allowed for a 5 day (para 6) members only or a 28 day (para 4) rally where non members are allowed to attend.

The landowner can use his land without the need for an exemption or planning for one van for up to 28 days in a year. Days using an exemption do not count towards this 28 day limit By allowing an exempted group to use his land he is covered should the planners decide to check that the land is being used within the 28 day rule or under an exemption.

Paragraph 5 is issued by the group to a landowner allowing him to set up a caravan site "Primarily for use of the clubs/groups members" for up to 5 vans at any one time at anytime during the year. No van to stay on the site for more than 28 days at a time.

One advantage of a club affiliating to ACCEO is cheap insurance to cover rallying activities.

 

[Deleted member 2636]

The Self Build people had their own 3rd Party insurance.
The impression that was given to SBMCC was that you could only get the DEFRA exemption by going through ACCEO.
The biggest advantage to ACCEO is that they do the leg work for you but if you are determined enough then you can DIY
The most difficult thing is finding a Farmer/Landowner who is prepared to have a group in the first place. Personal knowledge would play a big part in this

 

[Deleted member 967]

The impression that was given to SBMCC was that you could only get the DEFRA exemption by going through ACCEO.

I found that as well when I set up Three Rivers Outdoor Clubs exemptions. However by doing it myself I also was able to get para 5 which ACCEO said could not be done. They also said that they had para 4 so if we affiliated we could use theirs. When I got Para 4 they were not happy saying that it should be reserved for large clubs only. When I got the para 5 they actualy contacted NE & DEFRA to try to get it removed from us on the same "large clubs only" criteria..

I then went through the process for British Naturism and got para 6 and 5 on the first try with para 4 provisional on putting one sentence into the constitution, enabeling the group to take a controling interest in land for the period of the use under para 4.

The biggest advantage to ACCEO is that they do the leg work for you but if you are determined enough then you can DIY

ACCEO will provide a set of model documents (which can be ammened to suit the group), but these are now published in the NE handbook together with an application form. Incidentaly it cost nothing but time and postage, to get and renew an exemption certificate which lasts for 5 years.

The most difficult thing is finding a Farmer/Landowner who is prepared to have a group in the first place. Personal knowledge would play a big part in this

This is true, but on here we already have a lot of contacts with landowners already. By having exemptions some landowners will let you use their land where otherwise they would not.

 

[AndyC]

What John Thompson says pretty much covers it, I hold an exemption certificate for a small motorhome group and had no trouble getting it direct from DEFRA (now Natural England). You just need a formal constitution, and a code of conduct for rallies.

In fact we haven't held that many rallies but venues have never been a problem. Some CS/CL sites advertise a rally field which is great because you then get the benefit of a water tap and toilet emptying point.

Anyway... this is a bit off the original topic of setting up UK Aires!

AndyC

 

[Deleted member 967]

What John Thompson says pretty much covers it, I hold an exemption certificate for a small motorhome group and had no trouble getting it direct from DEFRA (now Natural England). You just need a formal constitution, and a code of conduct for rallies.

In fact we haven't held that many rallies but venues have never been a problem. Some CS/CL sites advertise a rally field which is great because you then get the benefit of a water tap and toilet emptying point.

Anyway... this is a bit off the original topic of setting up UK Aires!

AndyC

Aires.

If we group together and inundate the local chamber of trade and local authorities in selected areas, we may get a result by proving a demand and pointing out the advantages for the area. Sample letter on Motorhome parking website or in this post.

Number 10 Petitions, DEFRA, Natural England, etc. will all give the same answer. It is not up to them it is a local matter.

The local authority have the powers now to set up Aires if the wish, or can be persuaded to do so.

A para 5 exemption could help us set up stopovers however

 

[Deleted member 967]

Aires.

If we group together and inundate the local chamber of trade and local authorities in selected areas, we may get a result by proving a demand and pointing out the advantages for the area. Sample letter on Motorhome parking website or in this post.

The local authority have the powers now to set up Aires if the wish, or can be persuaded to do so.

A para 5 exemption could help us set up stopovers however

MotorhomeFun have today been granted an exemption under para 5 to licence their own locations, just as the Caravan Club has CL's The camping and Caravan Club it's CS's there will now officially be CFL's Certificated Fun Locations as well as Motorcaravanners' Club ones.

MotorhomeFun now hold Para 4,5 and 6 exemptions,
As I said earlier in these posts it can be done. If we wanted it to happen it could.

 

[AndyC]

MotorhomeFun have today been granted an exemption under para 5 to licence their own locations, just as the Caravan Club has CL's The camping and Caravan Club it's CS's there will now officially be CFL's Certificated Fun Locations as well as Motorcaravanners' Club ones.

MotorhomeFun now hold Para 4,5 and 6 exemptions,
As I said earlier in these posts it can be done. If we wanted it to happen it could.

Interesting, do you know what sort of locations MHFun plan to licence?

AndyC

 

[Deleted member 967]

Interesting, do you know what sort of locations MHFun plan to licence?

AndyC

Just the usual request

"Do you have some spare land? Do you know of some land we might use?
Ideally in a quiet location?
Room to park a motorhome or two?
Access to a water tap and a foul drain?"