Tyre pal discount on caravan and camping club magazine

Sharpie said:
How much does it cost to have fitted ? I presume that it's a wheel-off, tyre off, fit, re-install, re-balance job, same at battery changes. That would be maybe £60 for me. Or have I mis-understood ?
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They cost nothing to fit.
you simply remove the valve covers, screw on the sensors then set up the panel in the cabin. It’s a 30 minute job. Nothing to it
 
Aah, I see now.

Nope, I don't think I'll be buying them. I like my metal valves to be tightly capped with metal valve covers with o-ring seals. Don't fancy something else dangling off the end that might let go.

OEM TPMS fitted internally to the wheel are good, the sort of things that BMW use along with their run-flat tyres.

Persuade me otherwise please.
 
The TyrePal sensors also have o-ring seals.

Granted you have to rely on that seal alone retaining tyre pressure, but the kit is supplied with a tool to tighten the caps. The sensors are weatherproofed by a rubber sheath that fits over valve stem and sensor.

I've been using these devices for years now and on the occasions I've needed to top up the tyres I've never found that the sensors are in any sense loose.

It's a much better system then the manufacturer supplied methods. You can tailor all the parameters to your satisfaction.
 
OK. but do you trust these things to deliver an accurate pressure measurement ? How good are they ?

I use a traditional round dial gauge that was once calibrated for motorsport use, that's my reference. Cheap digital gauges can be way off by comparison. Despite resolving to 0.1 PSI, now that's a joke.

Interestingly the simple ones that blow out a plunger against spring pressure are usually spot-on, these are what I recommend if you don't have something better. Not a cheap digital one. Finding one that covers the range for truck tyres is difficult but they do exist. The thing is, each time you check pressure you lose a little air as the gauge seats, unless you have a good one like mine. so that has to be put back in periodically. At >60 psi that requires a good compressor (a car one won't even start against 60 psi back pressure), or a bicycle stirrup pump, that will keep you fit.

And the cheap digital ones drift with temperature.

So how good are these things really ? Please could someone swap them about between wheels and see if each delivers the same measurement as the previous one, and whether that corresponds with a known-good gauge. I'm not expecting perfection but it would be interesting to know.

Presumably once you have fitted these things you just trust them and never bother again to check your tyres the usual way. That's tempting.

I don't want a fancy display telling me all sorts of things that may or may not be real, and to constantly scan and obsess over them. Just a bong and a light to tell me that something might be going wrong. I've seen some vans rigged up with so much stuff that they look more like an aircraft cockpit. And the electrics more like a ship's engine room incompetently done, you name it they've fitted it

I really like to keep systems on my camper as simple as possible.

Still hovering.
 
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I have done 74500 miles in the 7 years I have had my TyrePal fitted saved me a few times with early warning of slow punctures from nails once from a faulty tyre valve, yes. I check my tyres before using every day. I travel the A1 most weeks 150 miles or so sometime slightly over the speed limit my tyres are what keeps me safe so I look after them.
I have 20 or so friends using TyrePal there are a dozen or so on the forum using them I have never heard a wrong word. Cheaper versions do get plenty of complaints if you buy rubbish you get rubbish.
I have a very accurate tyre gauge and an excellent compressor good enough to for truck tyres.
Oh by the way I have an Eberspacher but that’s another story.

Alf
 
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Sharpie said:
OK. but do you trust these things to deliver an accurate pressure measurement ? How good are they ?

I use a traditional round dial gauge that was once calibrated for motorsport use, that's my reference. Cheap digital gauges can be way off by comparison. Despite resolving to 0.1 PSI, now that's a joke.

Interestingly the simple ones that blow out a plunger against spring pressure are usually spot-on, these are what I recommend if you don't have something better. Not a cheap digital one. Finding one that covers the range for truck tyres is difficult but they do exist. The thing is, each time you check pressure you lose a little air as the gauge seats, unless you have a good one like mine. so that has to be put back in periodically. At >60 psi that requires a good compressor (a car one won't even start against 60 psi back pressure), or a bicycle stirrup pump, that will keep you fit.

And the cheap digital ones drift with temperature.

So how good are these things really ? Please could someone swap them about between wheels and see if each delivers the same measurement as the previous one, and whether that corresponds with a known-good gauge. I'm not expecting perfection but it would be interesting to know.

Presumably once you have fitted these things you just trust them and never bother again to check your tyres the usual way. That's tempting.

I don't want a fancy display telling me all sorts of things that may or may not be real, and to constantly scan and obsess over them. Just a bong and a light to tell me that something might be going wrong. I've seen some vans rigged up with so much stuff that they look more like an aircraft cockpit. And the electrics more like a ship's engine room incompetently done, you name it they've fitted it

I really like to keep systems on my camper as simple as possible.

Still hovering.
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I have been using Tyrepal sensors for 7 years on my motorhomes and recently checked the pressures versus a friends M A Horne professional Gauge, he used to work for the Malcolm Wilson rally team hence having a £300.00 calibrated gauge.
The Tyrepal display was within 1 to 2 psi which is near enough imho.
Both my sons Golf GTI and my Golf gtd have the factory fitted tyre pressure system which I believe only alerts you to low pressure whereas the Tyrepal system gives you high, low pressure and temp, far superior. Never had any issues with them coming loose or losing pressure and saves the chore of checking pressures on a regular basis. Wouldn’t be without them.
 
Obanboy666 said:
I have been using Tyrepal sensors for 7 years on my motorhomes and recently checked the pressures versus a friends M A Horne professional Gauge, he used to work for the Malcolm Wilson rally team hence having a £300.00 calibrated gauge.
The Tyrepal display was within 1 to 2 psi which is near enough imho.
Both my sons Golf GTI and my Golf gtd have the factory fitted tyre pressure system which I believe only alerts you to low pressure whereas the Tyrepal system gives you high, low pressure and temp, far superior. Never had any issues with them coming loose or losing pressure and saves the chore of checking pressures on a regular basis. Wouldn’t be without them.
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AFAIK the Golfs have the standard VAG group system that monitors wheel rotation speed, as I described earlier. It seems to work pretty well. That's what my Seat, my partner's Seat, my father's Seat and his wife's Audi all have, and it's worked pretty well for all of us. If anything it can be a little over-sensitive, I've had false alarms which I can only attribute to driving along long straight heavily cambered stretches of road.

However it is not perfect. If all your tyres gradually reduce in pressure, as they do if you don't regularly check them, at least monthly, it won't detect that.

If by "within 1-2 psi" you mean +/- 2 psi that would be at the limit of acceptability for me. Presumably the temperature can only be an indication, since it's measured at the valve stem. Not actually the air inside the tyre, nevermind the sidewall or tread, which we used to measure with an infra red thermometer.

Still that could be useful information. I've had to be cautious sometimes, my morning check might be at relatively low temperature, but along the journey the day could heat up and find myself driving at high speeds on roads so hot that the tarmac is melting, e.g. when descending from the mountains then hitting the Autoroute. On my van the rear tyres could be close to the load rating (until I uprated them) and run at their maximum pressure. I have sometimes chosen to adjust them lower to compensate, not recommended but I think I know what I am doing.

These TyrePals could be very useful to me, I now see, Not just for looking out for punctures.

Thanks for the advice.
 
Accuracy?

The readings correspond exactly with forecourt gauges, handheld digital gauges, and the bar type gauge that I carry in the glovebox.

I use all these at various times and there's never any variance. I have been surprised by the correlation.

The temperature indication is useful though as you say not an exact reading of the tyre temperature.

On two occasions it has alerted me to a problem, once with a stuck caliper piston and once with an over adjusted handbrake.

Don't hover. Buy it, but make sure it's the solar rechargeable version. No wires, no clutter, very compact and with an excellent colour display.
 
My TyrePal arrived this morning and I am impressed by what I have seen so far. Bearing in mind they were closed for the Christmas/New Year holiday when I ordered it I consider this excellent service.

A couple of years back I bought the alternative Fit2go system which does not give on dash tyre pressure readings for each wheel, only warnings. It also does not have replaceable sensor batteries which is a pain. None of them lasted much longer than a year. In fairness the supplier did provide replacement sensors but one of them was soon showing a low level.

I decided my new motorhome deserved a better system and TyrePal looks good. Apart from the comprehensive information colour display and replaceable batteries I am impressed with the package. It includes a reusable sticky mounting pad for the display, spare O rings for the sensors, dust shields for the sensors and a decent looking sensor tool.

Thank you for the helpful posts and the OP’s discount advice. :)
 
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