Tragedy with gas lamp

Perhaps, but for £10.00? It's a cheap fix compared to Air bags etc.

I think I clearly stated I dont have a problem with anyone that feels a need to fit an alarm warning of whatever scenario they choose.

Carbon monoxide, Smoke or the National lottery.

I am not for a second condemning the fitting of carbon Monoxide alarms and fwiw a good idea, I am just attempting to convey that driving itself has probably more risk, And that Carbon monoxide whilst possible ( has is murder) is a rare occurence.

Putting the concept in context !!??

An occurence rare in the grander scale that can have you having an hello conversation with St Peter If your that lucky

channa
 
Sorry for being a sceptical miserable twat...I live full time in a van with no alarms, I have a burglar alarm which the hound would set off ..so redundant/ bypassed and I will let her decide if we have a siege situation !!.

I long ago came up with the idea commercialism and marketeers, pray upon our emotions that we will be gassed / garroted in our slumber.

I dont see the evidence to support it.

I dont for a moment have a beef with people that choose to fit whatever alarm they want. But from a little probing and places like this, seems to me a convenient way of extracting a few quid from those conditioned to feel vulnerable.

The reality it seems is no greater or worse than your residence of bricks and mortar

Channa

why should you apologise for being a sceptical miserable twat?, if you are one you are one, i will agree with you on this occassion Channa, i had no intention of scaremongering anyone, i was mereley giving information on a very very sad story, pointing out the most seasoned camper can become a victim of gas poisoning, a mere message to all campers it can happen to anyone so please be careful, what's wrong with that?
 
I didnt think for a moment you were scaremongering Kimbowbill, And you are right tragedies can happen with carbon monoxide as your link illustrates.

My point was more in the grander scale that driving a van possibly carries more risk in relative terms.

FWIW I cant remember who, But some one made a comment re blocked flues etc affecting safety I thought that a particularly good piece of advice.

regards

Channa
 
Hey kimbowill,

I object very strongly to your comments about Channa. You need to get your facts right. :mad:

I have never found him to be sceptical. :D
 
Hey kimbowill,

I object very strongly to your comments about Channa. You need to get your facts right. :mad:

I have never found him to be sceptical. :D

how about a pedantic sycophant then...:confused::confused:

regards:rolleyes:
aj
 
I can see Channa's point. In a similar way, 100,000's year die of tobacco or alcohol related causes, but if just one dies from ecstasy then it's all over the newspapers. As a society we've been brainwashed by the media, the government, and culture to gloss over certain things and fixate on others.
 
If I was clever enough to know what a pedantic sycophant was, do you really think I would get involved with the moronic idiosyncrasies of the members on here? :confused:
 
If I was clever enough to know what a pedantic sycophant was, do you really think I would get involved with the moronic idiosyncrasies of the members on here?

:confused:
Well you do…. and have no problem competing:rolleyes:

retards:p
aj
 
Both sides of the argument are true, but unfortunately a tenner can't protect you from said artic ;)

So IMHO it's in the same class as a fire extinguisher.

Sean :p
 
defitzi

I sleepless surfing so may i join in- as boater?
I've had gas (no NOT flatulence) in vans and boats for decades. Boats really do need alarm or detector 'cos u can't exactly have a drop-out! And that's where it mostly happens! Wooooomf! Poooooof.! Anyone for swimming? iI lucky.
Well I did hear of a chap with the gas on, lighting a fag as he filled his outboard...and... legends, legends but....
But vans> well a hole in the bottom doesn't really need to be very big and if in the right place-places (yes you can drill more than one) gas will find its own (bottom) level. The real thing is the spark: one such is usually necessary for the gas to go bang....
Seriously tho' the problem is if the gas has not-does not disperse and drop out.Forward movement can also suck it out if u place a small deflector in front of the drop down opening (same principle as self-bailer in a boat). And an open window draught will often suck it especially when driving and circulating air.
Although gas does sink in static conditionsit is esily blown-swept-sucked along. I have a brace of catalyactic gas heaters- actually three- 2 in vans 1 on boat- the tiny pilot is deeply placed and guarded , the platinum elements cant set anything ire and the pilot and therefore the heater WILL extinguish automatically.
They are pricey -circa 80-140 quid but so is life!
A true story: A fella I know picked up his camper which had been stored all winter in Aunt's barn.
Started engine, drove out into into yard. Lit gas fridge. With wifie went into aunties for cuppa tea 'n chat. Outside: almighty bang Shook crockery-tea spilt. Outside in yard: camper blown up. Yes yes yes. Really bnig Boooooom! Fire, total.
He a very experienced engineer and head of big motor firm so big investigation.
Reason was uncovered: gas which gathered in bottom of fridge piping was not dispoersed( would have been shaken up in a bit of a run) hence expanded and explodedf cos would go up or away.
I never go back to my boat (if it is on land-on water it WILL shake up) or my camper after a long avbsence without making sure the fridge and m,aybe the heater? is well and truly shaken up and a good air sweep along the floor and out the door, before I light it.
And if there are any cupboards where gases just might congregate just go through the motions of sweeping it into a bucket and emptying the contents outside out... it just might be there. I do this with vans-boat bilges regularly sweep air into something empty out and folk watchigthink I mad (yes>) people watching think i mad (yes?) but so far, I've not gone bang-whooooomf as yet although I have been known to forget to turn off the (unlit) gas once or twice. Ok so I hope this helps :eek:
 

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