Toilet Drop point at Cobham Services

[MATS]

My Radar says to avoid this place somehow, I just can't see myself dropping in for a fiver.

 

[Robmac]

My Radar says to avoid this place somehow, I just can't see myself dropping in for a fiver.

And as this forum seems to condone your behaviour, I shall leave immediately as this sort of thing is something I feel strongly about.

Happy camping!

 

[Admin]

And as this forum seems to condone your behaviour, I shall leave immediately as this sort of thing is something I feel strongly about.

Happy camping!

This forum does not condone his behaviour, at no point have I suggested that non-disabled people should use disabled toilets.

Deleting a post because it conflicts with my personal values is not the way I run this forum.

 

[Smaug]

This forum does not condone his behaviour, at no point have I suggested that non-disabled people should use disabled toilets.

Deleting a post because it conflicts with my personal values is not the way I run this forum.

I'm sorry, but I am at a complete loss as to your comment above. Nowhere in this thread is there any reference to using a disabled toilet except in your post above. Where did you get that idea from?

Incidentally I am pleased that you allow other people to hold opinions that differ from your own. It would be a jolly boring world if we all had to agree "with the powers that be".

 

[alcam]

Opportunity to petition motorway services proprietors to provide facilities . I appreciate some people would only use facilities and not buy anything so a [reasonable] charge for an overnight stay would be a great compromise . I am sure you have all driven a little further when tired to get to wildcamping or
pubstop . For safety reasons alone these 'services' should , preferably , voluntarily provide overnight facilities .

 

[antiquesam]

Opportunity to petition motorway services proprietors to provide facilities . I appreciate some people would only use facilities and not buy anything so a [reasonable] charge for an overnight stay would be a great compromise . I am sure you have all driven a little further when tired to get to wildcamping or
pubstop . For safety reasons alone these 'services' should , preferably , voluntarily provide overnight facilities .

You can overnight at any motorway services and use there toilets and showers, but you pay around £25 for the privilege.:sleep-027:

 

[Deleted member 967]

I have contacted all of the services providers, the Department for Transport (DfT) and Highways Agency about motorhome service points.

Only the ones on the M20 at the Tunnel and Cobham M25 have toilet drop points. Tebay on the M6 has a campsite attached to its MSA but has drinking water available

Cobham the toilet dump points are free to coaches with over 25 seats. Motorhomes have to pay £5.

Please do contact the MSA operators as they will only provide facilities if there is a shown demand. The department for Transport (DfT) has made it possible for MSAs to provide these facilities since 2008, together with a minimum provision of 2 parking spaces for disable motor caravan users close to the entrance of the services building.
http://www.tmcto.org/index.php/forum/index?view=category&layout=list

There are 5 providers but only 3 have bothered to reply
Motorway Service Area Operators
Extra Motorway Services - Reply
Moto – Reply
Welcome Break - No Reply to 2 requests
Westmorland Ltd – Reply
Area 24 (M20) No Reply to 2 requests


Replies

Westmorland Ltd (Tebay Services N & S)
We offer fresh potable water at our North and South-bound forecourts.
There are no facilities at North or South for formally sluicing grey or black waste as we have our Caravan Park on North that has all the required facilities.

Later they replied that they are opening the services at Gloucester on the M5 and are now aware of our requirements.
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Dear John

Moto service areas do not have any provision for waste or water.

Kind regards

Karen
Karen Davis

Customer Services | Moto Hospitality Ltd
Phone: - 01525 878244
Mobile: -
Fax:- 01525 878325
eMail: - Karen.Davis@moto-way.co.uk

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Dear John,

Thank you for your email regarding Motor Caravan parking facilities.

I can confirm that the cost for a 24hr ticket is as follows -

£20 at Baldock, Blackburn, Cambridge, Cullompton and Peterborough.
£25 at Beaconsfield and Cobham.

The provision for drinking water or electrical hook up is not available at our sites, however we do have waste dump disposal available at our Cobham Services which costs £5.00.

Hope this information helps.

Kind Regards,

Tara Scarry

Extra MSA Beaconsfield Ltd
A355 Windsor Road
Burtley Wood
Beaconsfield
Bucks
HP9 2SE

Telephone: 01494 678876
Fax: 01494 675654
Email: tara.scarry@extramsaproperty.co.uk
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Dear Mr Thompson,,

Thank you for your email dated 14th June 2013 regarding the provision of overnight parking facilities for caravans and motorhomes.

Since 1992, it has been up to the private sector to identify, acquire and operate motorway service areas within the requirements of Government Policy.

All service areas provide some parking availability for caravans & motorhomes and as quoted from the policy Operators 'may' choose to provide the services you enquired about but will make this decision on a commercial basis as all motorway service areas are commercially operated by private companies, working within the boundaries set by government policy which is one of deregularisation.

The primary aim of motorway service areas is a safety function to enable people on journeys to take a break, they are not required to offer full camp/caravan site facilities. After contacting all of the motorway service area operators, I can confirm only the new services at Cobham offer the facility of a toilet drop for £5 .

As an Agency we do not hold the details of all the trunk road service area operators centrally.

Kind Regards
Leslie

Leslie Berry, Policy Advisor
Planning & Economic Development
Highways Agency | Piccadilly Gate | Store Street | Manchester | M1 2WD
Tel: +44 (0) 161 9305729 | Web: Highways Agency - Highways Agency
GTN: 4315 5729
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[vindiboy]

Interestingly, I often go to the Camping & Caravanning Club Temporary Holiday Sites, many of which are on farmers' fields. Every year, at least one of those farmers simply digs a big hole at the edge of his field and sticks up a bit of hardboard on a stick proclaiming 'Toilet Dump' and everyone - caravanners, motorhomers and the odd camper - dumps the contents of their chemical toilet in the hole. After we leave, the farmer simply backfills the hole but the next year, when he digs the hole in the same place, there is no trace of the previous year's 'poisonous chemicals' - i.e. formaldehyde or whatever is in Elsan Blue. So, it seems the stuff biodegrades harmlessly if buried properly.

CCC will no longer use a facility if it does NOT have a pumpable toilet drop or one connected to main sewers, no more holes in ground allowed.