Toilet chemicals in France and Spain

[Skar]

Having used the "Blue" (which was ok) and having tried the bio soap powders/tabs (which I hated the smell of) someone suggested Tarax to me, we are now converts and would not use anything else, half a sachet is more than enough! If you are in France look out for it in the big supermarkets, we get ours from Auchan.

Activateur biologique | Tarax

 

[Steve121]

I know nothing about the system - I was simply relating what our erstwhile neighbours told us. Incidentally, they were supporters of the Sog system, not bashing it

My view remains that I try to avoid making things complicated because so many parts of the motorhome are unnecessarily complicated and therefore prone to go wrong (especially the bloody fridges!)

The way I read it they stayed to await delivery of the part, presumably because they wanted it working. You have to stay in one place to receive a delivery.

What I find unbelievable is that someone actually waited for a spare part to arrive when they could simply have continued their holiday as planned without interruption. As I've already stated, it is very easy to disconnect a SOG and carry on using the toilet as usual.

 

[John H]

What I find unbelievable is that someone actually waited for a spare part to arrive when they could simply have continued their holiday as planned without interruption. As I've already stated, it is very easy to disconnect a SOG and carry on using the toilet as usual.

Whether you find it believable or not, that is what they did. I repeat - why complicate things when complicated things go wrong?

 

[Teutone]

Whether you find it believable or not, that is what they did. I repeat - why complicate things when complicated things go wrong?

as you said yourself, you don't know the SOG system. So how can you say it's complicated???

@Steve121, you don't even need to disconnect anything if your SOG fails. You just end up with a toilet without a SOG, just like before fitting it.

 

[John H]

as you said yourself, you don't know the SOG system. So how can you say it's complicated???

@Steve121, you don't even need to disconnect anything if your SOG fails. You just end up with a toilet without a SOG, just like before fitting it.

It is more complicated than not having one. Two people I have come across have had problems with it; nobody I have met has said they had problems with not having it! Keep it simple.

As far as I am concerned, Sog is the answer to a problem that does not need solving. If you are happy with it, then fine - but I won't be getting one.

 

[El Veterano]

I looked at buying a SOG a couple of years ago at the Stratford show, but when I saw the actual parts laid out in front of me I thought for £100 they're having a laugh! Some of the bits looked decidedly cheap and cheerful and I thought there and then that if I find out later that this system is the way to go I will probably be able to make my own. The way to go (pun intended) was with bio liquid, although I like the sound of Tarax and will give that a try when next in France.

 

[El Veterano]

Just to raise a point here, now that someone has mentioned Tarax. Bio in the UK and bio in France, Germany and probably anywhere else is a completely different thing! Bio liquids, sachets, powders etc found in the UK are not the 'green' alternative that they proport to be, in fact they are the complete opposite. They are the most aggresive form of detergent which is why they clean clothes so well. On the other hand 'biologique' French treatments are exactly what they sound like, ie biological, and Tarax and others like it such as Eparcyl are not detergents at all, but bioligically acting additives that are used to maintain the bacterial levels of France's most popular sewage system the 'fosse septique' which is found in the garden of virtually every house out in the French countryside and is truely biological. One sachet per week is all that is needed to keep all those little French microbes in the fosse as happy as a pig in.......whatsit.

 

[Teutone]

It is more complicated than not having one. Two people I have come across have had problems with it; nobody I have met has said they had problems with not having it! Keep it simple.

As far as I am concerned, Sog is the answer to a problem that does not need solving. If you are happy with it, then fine - but I won't be getting one.

That's of course your choice. But don't slag it because you don't like it. To us it's a very important device for our comfort in the motorhome.
And NOBODY can convince me that their loo doesn't smell (of whatever, poo or bio or chemicals) when the flap is opened. We are on our second motorhome, I have tried several different blue's, bio's, detergents etc and even bought a NEW cassette because I thought we are doing something wrong. Since the SOG, smells (freshly produced or from the cassette) are non existent.

 

[John H]

That's of course your choice. But don't slag it because you don't like it. To us it's a very important device for our comfort in the motorhome.
And NOBODY can convince me that their loo doesn't smell (of whatever, poo or bio or chemicals) when the flap is opened. We are on our second motorhome, I have tried several different blue's, bio's, detergents etc and even bought a NEW cassette because I thought we are doing something wrong. Since the SOG, smells (freshly produced or from the cassette) are non existent.

I didn't slag it; I was simply making a comment - just as you are. Are you saying that you are entitled to an opinion but I am not?

 

[Tezza33]

That's of course your choice. But don't slag it because you don't like it. To us it's a very important device for our comfort in the motorhome.
And NOBODY can convince me that their loo doesn't smell (of whatever, poo or bio or chemicals) when the flap is opened. We are on our second motorhome, I have tried several different blue's, bio's, detergents etc and even bought a NEW cassette because I thought we are doing something wrong. Since the SOG, smells (freshly produced or from the cassette) are non existent.

I fitted one for one reason and one reason only, anything else it does is a bonus, I have no sense of smell and neither has Maggy but when we took our granddaughter who was 6 at the time on holiday she wrinkled her nose every time she went in there, we have nice smelly things on the side, roof vent open etc but she still didn't like it, fitted a sog and now she just smiles as normal, I will change the charcoal filter every year because I would not like to offend anyone but as far as emptying it is concerned please give me room and stand upwind, it is only in France they stand and talk to you when you empty your cassette any way

 

[Tbear]

Just to raise a point here, now that someone has mentioned Tarax. Bio in the UK and bio in France, Germany and probably anywhere else is a completely different thing! Bio liquids, sachets, powders etc found in the UK are not the 'green' alternative that they proport to be, in fact they are the complete opposite. They are the most aggresive form of detergent which is why they clean clothes so well. On the other hand 'biologique' French treatments are exactly what they sound like, ie biological, and Tarax and others like it such as Eparcyl are not detergents at all, but bioligically acting additives that are used to maintain the bacterial levels of France's most popular sewage system the 'fosse septique' which is found in the garden of virtually every house out in the French countryside and is truely biological. One sachet per week is all that is needed to keep all those little French microbes in the fosse as happy as a pig in.......whatsit.

Which aggressive form of detergent is that then?

Richard

 

[SafariMul]

Hi guys. Where can you buy toilet chemicals on the continent? Obviously at motorhome dealers, but if you don't chance upon one of these, are there any retailers like bricomarches that reliably have them? I know we bought some in France before, but I have also asked in loads of shops that don't have them. We use the laundry sachets as an emergency back up but for longer trips we'd rather not have to carry loads with us.

Thank you in anticipation of your advice,

Jo

**** another shitty (joke ... geddit !) hijacked thread yes it is no it isn't bolox.
Like an effin pantomime at times I know more than you oh no you dont oh yes I do. Thats why I dont post much on here any more. No need to get my tin hat ... Off again for a long while.
We've seen it for sale in hypermarkets eg carrefour all over. HTH

 

[Deleted member 3011]

Some bere are just repeating the pseudo science that sog spout. Every time you flush, air is introduced into the cassette,and adding the sog isn't going to add to that significantly if at all. Then there is the assertion that this somehow results in the same conditions that exist in a sewage treatment plant and just in a few hours as well. If your aim is to reduce stink in the motorhome then fit a sog or stop hoarding your waste for so long. If you think you are converting your loo into a sewage treatment plant then you are wasting your money.
If anyone is still using formaldehyde based products and emptying into a septic system they are being particularly inconsiderate

 

[SafariMul]

Some bere are just repeating the pseudo science that sog spout. Every time you flush, air is introduced into the cassette,and adding the sog isn't going to add to that significantly if at all. Then there is the assertion that this somehow results in the same conditions that exist in a sewage treatment plant and just in a few hours as well. If your aim is to reduce stink in the motorhome then fit a sog or stop hoarding your waste for so long. If you think you are converting your loo into a sewage treatment plant then you are wasting your money.
If anyone is still using formaldehyde based products and emptying into a septic system they are being particularly inconsiderate

Being the never off topic hypocrit that I am ! Your travel map is mighty impressive, top stuff. A true adventure, wow.

 

[maxi77]

Some bere are just repeating the pseudo science that sog spout. Every time you flush, air is introduced into the cassette,and adding the sog isn't going to add to that significantly if at all. Then there is the assertion that this somehow results in the same conditions that exist in a sewage treatment plant and just in a few hours as well. If your aim is to reduce stink in the motorhome then fit a sog or stop hoarding your waste for so long. If you think you are converting your loo into a sewage treatment plant then you are wasting your money.
If anyone is still using formaldehyde based products and emptying into a septic system they are being particularly inconsiderate

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[Captain Biggles]

I must get out more.....

'Trumpeteers' extolling the virtues of Donald Trump and his campaign for Presidential Office, horrific snow chaos on the U.S. Eastern Seaboard, problems with Migrants in Calais and further afield in Europe, Chinese Economic Slow-down, Putins murky past, North Korean sabre rattling, to hell with all that nonsense.

I've just spent a chunk of my night duty (in between calls of course) scanning 6 pages of heated discussion on 'the merits and de-merits of SOG Natural Composting'. Toilets', that's REAL 'Men's Stuff':mad1:

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