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Andy I understand your concerns, forced post counts are bad.
Andy I understand your concerns, forced post counts are bad.
AndyC
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This number of posts keeps coming up
Cant see the problem really as I am the highest poster and my posts work out at less than 7 per day
So what is wrong with that
The issue is that, if a member's access to the database is determined mainly by the number of posts that the member has made, there could be a tendency for some people to make largely irrelevant posts just to bump up their total to the number required to get access.
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noody
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Posting the location of favoured sites ? That's a joke, whilst I appreciate the members of this forum accept a high standard of behavior there are those amongst us who consider only themselves to the extent that these favoured sites are changed irreversibly.
Like dog-owners amongst us who don't pick-up there are motorhome-ers who just stick two fingers up to authority and spoil it for everyone.
Over a period of 8 years one the UK's loveliest beaches now has a 4 month dog-ban, (Largely ignored) its dirt-road type parking which was free and happy with a good atmosphere during summer is now pay-and-display. Even worse, the behavior of a few is likely to result in hight barriers.
Like dog-owners amongst us who don't pick-up there are motorhome-ers who just stick two fingers up to authority and spoil it for everyone.
Over a period of 8 years one the UK's loveliest beaches now has a 4 month dog-ban, (Largely ignored) its dirt-road type parking which was free and happy with a good atmosphere during summer is now pay-and-display. Even worse, the behavior of a few is likely to result in hight barriers.
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Hi, I agree with ***** & Noody on this topic. I am happy to share my list of pub stopovers because somebody else is responsible for the behaviour of users - the landlord. However favourite, well use (by me) wild overnight spots I tend to keep to myself purely for selfish reasons. I do not want the situation abused. You really have to live, as I do near a tourist / holiday location, to realise the selfish uncaring attitude of some motorhome / caravan owners. The mess, costs and in some cases vandalism that these individuals create does nobody any favours, least of all the more responsible among us.
Dezi
Dezi
noody
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I won't even share pub stop-overs, maybe via a PM, yes. The pub at the beach I regard as my local beach had a good sized parking area and allowed parking/stay-overs by motorhome-ers until the inevitable.
People parking in his car park, staying overnight and not using his pub. At the time he got so fed-up that he levied a charge of £10 though I think he now allows stay-overs again on the strict basis you eat and drink in his pub rather than just treat it as a free campsite, did I say, there is a campsite next door.
I understand 'Admin' is angry over something I don't really understand, I've done a lot more reading than posting on this site because there has been a lot of valuable contribution by a variety of posters.
It's a good site, keep it simple,don't mess with it.
People parking in his car park, staying overnight and not using his pub. At the time he got so fed-up that he levied a charge of £10 though I think he now allows stay-overs again on the strict basis you eat and drink in his pub rather than just treat it as a free campsite, did I say, there is a campsite next door.
I understand 'Admin' is angry over something I don't really understand, I've done a lot more reading than posting on this site because there has been a lot of valuable contribution by a variety of posters.
It's a good site, keep it simple,don't mess with it.
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I was just looking & see I have been a member since 2004 & not posted as much as I should have done. I will try to post more when I can but we do tend to go off for 3 month or more trips at a time & often forget to note where we have been. I am trying to keep a record of where we stop, I usually mark them on my Tomtom but I have now got into the habit of noting the GPS co-ords as well so I will post them when we can.
BTW
I recently came accross this site Camper informatie Engeland, Nederland en meer although it's in Dutch they have some files you can download. One of them listed places for the UK & in it there was a familiar description of a place we tried to find (unsucessfully) but I recognized the description for the Ben Lawers post from this site about the place being on the Glen Lyon road at about 1200 feet. I am sure quite a few of the other entries wer from this site as well. They also have a copywrite saying it can't be reproduced without their permission!!
Just found another one that was listed for Elgin & it was the same as the one posted on here word for word.
BTW
I recently came accross this site Camper informatie Engeland, Nederland en meer although it's in Dutch they have some files you can download. One of them listed places for the UK & in it there was a familiar description of a place we tried to find (unsucessfully) but I recognized the description for the Ben Lawers post from this site about the place being on the Glen Lyon road at about 1200 feet. I am sure quite a few of the other entries wer from this site as well. They also have a copywrite saying it can't be reproduced without their permission!!
Just found another one that was listed for Elgin & it was the same as the one posted on here word for word.
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what's been said in a lot of post's now about our own favorite spot shows that a lot of us have been in the same mind about posting them on open forum most of us are willing to share to the right people in the right way as in my post about going to wales this weekend i have had pm's offering me spots thats what its all about once members get a feeling for other members and its not about number of postings or cliques i past a spot on to one lady after afew posts she now as a lot more but it felt right to do (dos'e this make sence ?)
(dos'e this make sence ?)Deleted member 5759
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what's been said in a lot of post's now about our own favorite spot shows that a lot of us have been in the same mind about posting them on open forum most of us are willing to share to the right people in the right way as in my post about going to wales this weekend i have had pm's offering me spots thats what its all about once members get a feeling for other members and its not about number of postings or cliques i past a spot on to one lady after afew posts she now as a lot more but it felt right to do
Hi,
From what I have read the object of the original excerise was to restrict every Tom, Dick and Harry finding out about favourite wild camping spots and in consequence taking away their exclusivity and getting them over used and abused.
Members and Admin would not want to find their favourite spots (who have no doubt spent considerable time and effort in finding these places) full of non-members .
As this is a free forum and open to all and sundry in cyberspace, restriction to information is a difficult one.
As a suggestion, why not a specific database accessible only to members who have provided information as to wild camping spots on this database.
As to excisting memers only, why not automatic access if they have made five normal posts, not applicable to new memers until they have accessed the data base on post only, not read and left information or by invite from senior members.
Peter
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what's been said in a lot of post's now about our own favorite spot shows that a lot of us have been in the same mind about posting them on open forum most of us are willing to share to the right people in the right way as in my post about going to wales this weekend i have had pm's offering me spots thats what its all about once members get a feeling for other members and its not about number of postings or cliques i past a spot on to one lady after afew posts she now as a lot more but it felt right to do
Makes sence to me, wildcamp spots are quite a find and quite often I feel as though they need protecting. Therefor I hardly ever post a spot on a thread. However If someone is needing a spot and I know of one then I do quite often let them know by pm. This site is primarily about pooling info and helping each other out, but the posting of wildcamp spots is a double edged sword, especially if you are a fulltimer and the spots are quite an important part of your day to day life. Tis a tricky subject.
sasquatch
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Steady on with the ex teachers / lecturers Sasquach, we all have feelings Dezi
is this what you mean by been targeted?
My comment was not aimed at this site there is another site where the mods and some of their chums have taken it upon themselves to act as The Grammar Police' sometimes an entire thread can go off topic just because of a posters English.
noody
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Being a member of a forum requires everyone to be tolerant, there is no human contact, just text. When human contact is lost we loose facial expression and intonation so we must all make an effort.
Criticism, for example, is very easy. Most people hate to be criticised yet with expression, intonation and a little skill it's possible, on a forum you get people who just love to throw a cat amongst the pigeons. On forums we get depressives, depression is a sad condition where the afflicted only sees the negative side of things and a lot of marginal depressions are never diagnosed.
None of us know who we are exchanging text with and the result of a collection of words can have wide ranging meanings.
Eventually we get to know each other and it's amazing the friendships that are made on the basis of text exchange, I'm often critisised for being far to open for an internet forum, it's because I'm friendly and trusting and want to convey friendly and trusting though yes, it makes me vulnerable.
So what is my point here, I only use 3 forums, on one forum the spelling, punctuation, grammar and english content is so appalling you can't understand what the contributer is saying because his/her language is based on text-speak mixed with Bro-speak. It's so bad I just don't try to read. I have never experienced anything like that on this or the other forum I use and sadly it's the youngsters, our next adult generation.
We-all make spelling and grammar mistakes, mostly it's readable and none of us like being criticised.
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I don't do tricks.
Criticism, for example, is very easy. Most people hate to be criticised yet with expression, intonation and a little skill it's possible, on a forum you get people who just love to throw a cat amongst the pigeons. On forums we get depressives, depression is a sad condition where the afflicted only sees the negative side of things and a lot of marginal depressions are never diagnosed.
None of us know who we are exchanging text with and the result of a collection of words can have wide ranging meanings.
Eventually we get to know each other and it's amazing the friendships that are made on the basis of text exchange, I'm often critisised for being far to open for an internet forum, it's because I'm friendly and trusting and want to convey friendly and trusting though yes, it makes me vulnerable.
So what is my point here, I only use 3 forums, on one forum the spelling, punctuation, grammar and english content is so appalling you can't understand what the contributer is saying because his/her language is based on text-speak mixed with Bro-speak. It's so bad I just don't try to read. I have never experienced anything like that on this or the other forum I use and sadly it's the youngsters, our next adult generation.
We-all make spelling and grammar mistakes, mostly it's readable and none of us like being criticised.
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Richard Roggan. Distinguished kitesurfing Gentleman.
I don't do tricks.
rach82
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God... I have learnt alot from this debate!!!
I am fairly new to the site and have found it amazing- but I must be very naive as a few weeks ago after our first wild camp, I came straight home and posted the two great wild camp spots we found. I didn't think that these spots are what we need to protect from all and sundry!
I guess being new to the site I just wanted to give something back - but this has made me realise that there are people out there who dont think the way alot of us do about leaving spots as you find them etc.
I feel silly now that I hadn't taken this into consideration
I do agree some control should be put in place somehow.
I am fairly new to the site and have found it amazing
- but I must be very naive as a few weeks ago after our first wild camp, I came straight home and posted the two great wild camp spots we found. I didn't think that these spots are what we need to protect from all and sundry!I guess being new to the site I just wanted to give something back - but this has made me realise that there are people out there who dont think the way alot of us do about leaving spots as you find them etc.
I feel silly now that I hadn't taken this into consideration
I do agree some control should be put in place somehow.
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Hi,
Let’s keep things in perspective. I am happy to share 90% of my wild overnight spots, but the World is as it is and certain elements, as mentioned above will always abuse any situation, so certain spots I retain. Recently the cliff top walk in Southbourne had a group comprising of, a caravan, a ford transit & a car parked up for several days. It takes the police & council time to get the necessary to evict them. This not only P***** off the local residents, but also families on holiday with kiddies who use the path to get to the beach. On a lighter note, I have recently used the Best Westerns “ The Royal Chase Hotel”, Shaftesbury, Dorset & have been informed that proving you have a meal you can park up in the carpark overnight for nowt. However best put on the suede shoes & kipper tie first to try & look the part – it worked for me
Dezi
Let’s keep things in perspective. I am happy to share 90% of my wild overnight spots, but the World is as it is and certain elements, as mentioned above will always abuse any situation, so certain spots I retain. Recently the cliff top walk in Southbourne had a group comprising of, a caravan, a ford transit & a car parked up for several days. It takes the police & council time to get the necessary to evict them. This not only P***** off the local residents, but also families on holiday with kiddies who use the path to get to the beach. On a lighter note, I have recently used the Best Westerns “ The Royal Chase Hotel”, Shaftesbury, Dorset & have been informed that proving you have a meal you can park up in the carpark overnight for nowt. However best put on the suede shoes & kipper tie first to try & look the part – it worked for me
Dezi
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Wild camping is life affirming, let's keep it do-able.
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are they wellys at the off side of the van an i think thas dead dead brainy how tha puts things i think inta words
p.s. you anorl desi
rach82thas ok lass we all start someware just enjoy tha sen
an i think thas dead dead brainy how tha puts things i think inta words p.s. you anorl desi
rach82thas ok lass we all start someware just enjoy tha sen
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No, not wellies Arthur. I just love sheep for company, we live amongst sheep and cattle here in North Pembrokeshire so it's a hard-act to follow when looking for some place to stay.
tresrikay
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This is the first time I have just read through all these threads, I am amazed that the standard of this debate has stayed on a friendly, serious, and informed level.
So often the exchanges here, have descended into a slanging match and the results have been that sadly missed contributors have gone off to pastures new....... a great loss to the forum.
Maybe as the site has matured and the well of advice, help, wit and cameraderie has developed. The spoilers have also left...... I note with glee that a certain few have stopped posting, who took pride in starting a ruccus, have maybe, decided to make mischief elsewhere.
When I joined this site, I just used to download sites, I never got involved in the forum.... then when off on long term sick leave I started to post, went to a meet.... then bigger meets, then suggested meets. In this process I have met people who i now concider to be FRIENDS of the best kind, ones you would hope would be near at a time of need.
This site has brought us together, at Whitehouse Farm there were 16 vans and at the Hayfield opening meet it was like a rally and every man Jack and Gill of um, salt of the earth.
So keep comming you new bloods you are welcome to this place, we will help if we can and if we cant we will hopefully point you yonder to the grail you seek and any morsells you can throw this way we will with a hunger relish, digest and thank.
This is what WILDCAMPING is and has been for me..... and I hope is, or will become to you.
So often the exchanges here, have descended into a slanging match and the results have been that sadly missed contributors have gone off to pastures new....... a great loss to the forum.
Maybe as the site has matured and the well of advice, help, wit and cameraderie has developed. The spoilers have also left...... I note with glee that a certain few have stopped posting, who took pride in starting a ruccus, have maybe, decided to make mischief elsewhere.
When I joined this site, I just used to download sites, I never got involved in the forum.... then when off on long term sick leave I started to post, went to a meet.... then bigger meets, then suggested meets. In this process I have met people who i now concider to be FRIENDS of the best kind, ones you would hope would be near at a time of need.
This site has brought us together, at Whitehouse Farm there were 16 vans and at the Hayfield opening meet it was like a rally and every man Jack and Gill of um, salt of the earth.
So keep comming you new bloods you are welcome to this place, we will help if we can and if we cant we will hopefully point you yonder to the grail you seek and any morsells you can throw this way we will with a hunger relish, digest and thank.
This is what WILDCAMPING is and has been for me..... and I hope is, or will become to you.
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as posted by rick
This is the first time I have just read through all these threads, I am amazed that the standard of this debate has stayed on a friendly, serious, and informed level.
So often the exchanges here, have descended into a slanging match and the results have been that sadly missed contributors have gone off to pastures new....... a great loss to the forum.
hi rick this debate as not been a personal thing or a clash of egos for anyone every one who as took part has said what they thing and would like of the forum,and i am sure admin has read and took on board ideas and feeling of the members,this last 6 mth the site as really had a change i thinkand can only get better
This is the first time I have just read through all these threads, I am amazed that the standard of this debate has stayed on a friendly, serious, and informed level.
So often the exchanges here, have descended into a slanging match and the results have been that sadly missed contributors have gone off to pastures new....... a great loss to the forum.
hi rick this debate as not been a personal thing or a clash of egos for anyone every one who as took part has said what they thing and would like of the forum,and i am sure admin has read and took on board ideas and feeling of the members,this last 6 mth the site as really had a change i think
and can only get better