those who want to take without giving.

[Deleted member 3011]

The people who generally are opponents to this system are those who want to take without giving.

Hi Admin, your generalisation is just a bit too general to let it go without comment.

I am an opponent of your proposed rewards system.

Along with quite a few others, I would regard myself as overwhelmingly one of the givers TO this forum rather than one of the takers FROM the forum.
Apart from the occasional and generally justified lapse into not suffering fools gladly,you just have to look over any reasonable sample of my posts to see that.
One thing I won't do is accept mickeymouse friendship requests or send them, so of course that may leave me quite disadvantaged in your new rewards scheme. Similarly I won't be posting a lot of links or uploading lots of files because those sort of things are often a waste of bandwidth. How exactly does one rate the usefulness of a file. I have lots though if I ever feel the need to get the little coloured bars up a bit higher.

What I AM happy to do though is give whatever advice I can in fields that I am either expert or feel qualified by experience. For this reason, I don't feel inclined to make any financial contribution to a forum that wouldn't function without assistance from those who are prepared to give their time for no reward other than the occasional "thanks'. Obviously that will count against me in the reward system but that is too bad. How exactly does one rate posts? By the number made? I hope not! By the number of thanks received? Hmmmm. Better perhaps, but it seems to me that quite a few members hit the thanks button for no good reason than it is there to hit.

Anyway, rather than bag everyone on the basis of a hard day because some clowns send you hate mail by PM, could I suggest that you deal with them by booting them out regardless of the temporary dip in your membership numbers. Quality is what counts - not quantity.

 

[Chrissy]

Support for Admin

Hi Admin,

Anyway, rather than bag everyone on the basis of a hard day because some clowns send you hate mail by PM, could I suggest that you deal with them by booting them out regardless of the temporary dip in your membership numbers. Quality is what counts - not quantity.

Seems fair as there is no need to resort to that kind of behaviour under any circumstances IMO.

I have also noticed one or two posting inflamatory remarks, which doesn't help when a situation has already reached breaking point.

and definately it is "Quality is what counts - not quantity"

Just my two penneth.

Don't let the B?st@rds grind you down Admin this is a brilliant site

Chrissy

 

[Admin]

I will post a statement soon and that will be my reply to all threads that involve this matter.

 

[Channa]

I think that many people on here if not all are experts or very experienced in some way or particular field and have something to offer and many do and will continue to
I offer what I can and because I was very keen I quickly racked up a high post count, however I do hope that my posts have been useful or helpful and in no way were they posted to get rewards of any kind
I keep reading the digs about high posters posting to get brownie points and I can honestly say that was not my intention
Someone has to be the high poster and unfortunately it is me at this time

I would agree, I was prolific in the early days too albeit I have new constraints on my time.

I suspect we are similar in the respect we are 100 percent driven and committed to our chosen hobby. Nothing to do with how many posts have been racked up I agree.

Channa

 

[lenny]

You have it in one

Totally agree with you both Graham and Channa, in fact you took the words right out of my mouth ,as they say, seems to me that most of the time this site ticks along nicely then all of a sudden a bad apple or two floats to the top and all hell breaks loose.

 

[ajs]

seems to me that most of the time this site ticks along nicely then all of a sudden a bad apple or two floats to the top and all hell breaks loose.

probably a granny smith....they go off quick

unfortunately... i don't know what all the comments are about... i either missed it or the significance passed me by

if it's about an abusive private pm by one person... he's easy to deal with.. so what's the problem

btw...how did the content of a private pm to admin become public

regards
aj

 

[scotsy]

post whores

I have posted 4770 times on North UK Bikers | North UK Ride-out Site since i joined 3 years ago and am 2nd only to the site owner/admin (he has a 3 year start on me) but all my posting is to help others/stimulate discussion/share knowledge and most of all...have a good craic with other like minded people around the north of england. We meet and go on rideouts together, we ask for help, we give advice, we help new riders along, we promote further training, we look after each other, we care...because we share the same interest

I don't post to become a 'post whore' whose only interest is to reach a 'target', i have in the past instigated word games, quizzes, poetry threads, cropped photo guessing games.... anything to keep the members interested and actively posting and i have NO privelages at all...no special rights... no bright lights around my username...we don't need a class system

When i get to know a bit more about MH'ing i will gain the confidence to post more on here but at the moment its a bit daunting when there are so many others with REAL experience and knowledge willing to help, i therefore tend to read more than i post

Keep posting you regulars, keep the site as it is now!!!

 

[simong]

While I aggree that admin does a cracking job on running the site, it's a shame that it's takes something like the events of the last couple of days for him to get the credit for what he's done to date, now don't get me wrong 99.99% of us think he's doing a good job but possibly don't say thanks often enough.

And while I'm unable to offer a donation( yes there are some people that can't make a finantial donations), I hope my 18+ years knowledge of mechanics,electrical,electronics and body repair that I offer make up for it

 

[Dezi]

Hi, I agree with most, not all, of the above comments. Like Tony Lee I simply wish to continue contributing to this site, without adopting any “face book” type friendships or posting many photos. Having already commented of my understanding of Admins annoyance with abuse in another thread I found that I became a target simply for asking for restraint, odd to say the least. Like many others I will respond to a request for info if I have it. I will also submit information garnered from my own experience so that hopefully it will lessen the amount of pratfalls that some other individual has to suffer while meandering through this mortal coil. But that’s all. How that will leave me on the ratings poll I have no idea. Should I worry about it ? I doubt it.

Dezi

 

[Deleted member 3802]

Hi, I agree with most, not all, of the above comments. Like Tony Lee I simply wish to continue contributing to this site, without adopting any “face book” type friendships or posting many photos. Having already commented of my understanding of Admins annoyance with abuse in another thread I found that I became a target simply for asking for restraint, odd to say the least. Like many others I will respond to a request for info if I have it. I will also submit information garnered from my own experience so that hopefully it will lessen the amount of pratfalls that some other individual has to suffer while meandering through this mortal coil. But that’s all. How that will leave me on the ratings poll I have no idea. Should I worry about it ? I doubt it.

Dezi

Steady on with the ex teachers / lecturers Sasquach, we all have feelings Dezi

is this what you mean by been targeted?i don't see this as personal to you the guy was getting at the people coming on and collecting sorry correcting spelling and gandmar sorry i mean grammar

 

[wigan pier]

weve all got somthing to give its called knowlage of life?

 

[AndyC]

seems to me that most of the time this site ticks along nicely then all of a sudden a bad apple or two floats to the top and all hell breaks loose.

Can't say I noticed any 'bad apples'. I know admin has been deleting messages (mine included) from some people who didn't agree with the rating system, so maybe the messages got deleted before I saw them?

Personally I don't see the problem with discussing how the site is run, so long as it's a reasoned debate. There is certainly no excuse for abusive PMs to admin. As others have said, anyone sending such messages is easily dealt with by deleting their membership, and if seriously abusive, sending a complaint to their ISP.

AndyC

 

[Dezi]

Hi Old Arthur, For the sake of clarity it was the comment after my call to "steady on" that seemed a bit strong. But let us all move on to the sunlit uplands as sir once said.

Dezi

 

[Deleted member 4850]

Hi, I agree with most, not all, of the above comments. Like Tony Lee I simply wish to continue contributing to this site, without adopting any “face book” type friendships or posting many photos. Having already commented of my understanding of Admins annoyance with abuse in another thread I found that I became a target simply for asking for restraint, odd to say the least. Like many others I will respond to a request for info if I have it. I will also submit information garnered from my own experience so that hopefully it will lessen the amount of pratfalls that some other individual has to suffer while meandering through this mortal coil. But that’s all. How that will leave me on the ratings poll I have no idea. Should I worry about it ? I doubt it.

Dezi

Hi
As I only get online sporadically all this has gone over my head...took me a while to even notice the coloured bars! But I'm like Dezi in that I enjoy the site enormously and although I don't feel I know much about anything, am glad to share whatever experience seems relevant at a given time. But I'm not into social networking much - don't have the time except maybe in darkest winter.

I think Admin does a great job and am sorry to hear he got some flak..he deserves a medal for starting this great site in the first place. Ratings? Beratings? Aw heck...life's too short...let's talk about campervans and wild places again!

 

[Admin]

What everyone is failing to realise is that;

1) The system does not work on post counts, that is the smallest part of it.

2) I will not be limiting access to any part of this based upon it or anything else.

3) The person who posts the site in the database will decide who THEY want to see THIER information.

 

[AndyC]

What everyone is failing to realise is that;


3) The person who posts the site in the database will decide who THEY want to see THIER information.

What options will there be to chose from when deciding who can see their entry?

AndyC

 

[Kontiki]

First time I have managed to get on the web for the last 13 days as we are touring Scotland, so I seem to have missed what's been happening. I admit to being mostly a taker at the moment & would like to thank everybody who has posted wildcamping places that I have used. Some I found difficult to find or sometimes I didn't manage to find them at all!! I have also managed to find some new ones of our own. What I have been doing is saving all these as TomTom POIs & intend to make them available to anybody who wants. I hope everything works out ok & the site continues without any restrictions. It would be nice if there was somewhere you can upload POI files for anybody to download as most people have some sort of satnav system.

At the moment sitting on the harbour car park at Portgordon, not sure who I am connected to but if it's anybody on this site come down for a beer while we are still here.

 

[noody]

I'm not up-to-speed on recent events so I won't comment though I do know running a site like this can be a lot of work.

 

[Admin]

What options will there be to chose from when deciding who can see their entry?

AndyC

It will be based on member status, I have not decided the exact formula yet but it could be...

1) anybody
2) active members only (must have been a member for 30 days, made one post and visited more than oncein the last month)
3) established members (must have been a member for 3 months, made 50 posts and visited more than once in the last month)

or something like that.

People want to protect there favorite sites from hordes of vans and council closures. Without some kind of control they simply wont post them and that is a fact!

 

[AndyC]

It will be based on member status, I have not decided the exact formula yet but it could be...

1) anybody
2) active members only (must have been a member for 30 days, made one post and visited more than oncein the last month)
3) established members (must have been a member for 3 months, made 50 posts and visited more than once in the last month)

or something like that.

People want to protect there favorite sites from hordes of vans and council closures. Without some kind of control they simply wont post them and that is a fact!

Sounds like a reasonable starting point. I'd be a bit concerned if it was mainly based on the number of posts, that would just encourage a large number of irrelevant messages.

Maybe members have some suggestions?

AndyC