"SOS" Wiring help needed

johnnyrotten

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I am looking for info on wiring inside this box.On removal of the case the wires came adrift, can any one tell me the sequence for replacing I've blown two fuse's already. It's to do with the 3 way Electrolux RM123 fridge
The colours are two red and two yellow
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The switch has six connectors
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Cheers in anticipation:)
 
The way the wires are lying in the middle picture is the way they were when connected to the switch.

Hold the switch up close to the wires in exactly the same position as the switch is in when the cover is on - ie so the toggle moves up and down

Looking from the FRONT of the switch The top yellow wire goes on the top left terminal. The bottom yellow wire goes on the left middle terminal. The top red wire goes on the right bottom terminal and the bottom red wire goes on the right middle terminal.

This is based on the orientation of the connectors as shown in the photo.



BTW - if they did actually just fall off the switch when you took the cover off, the connectors have lost their spring and need to be replaced.

If you took them off and have forgotten where they were - we've all done that.




Y-- --

Y| R|

-- R--
This is looking from the toggle side of the switch.

If this results in it working but with the 12V and the mains positions reversed, then you can just twist the switch (with wires still connected) 180 degrees to make the positions match the label.
 
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Dangerous!:eek:
I would test the wires to see what voltage they are carrying and where they go before you start mixing and matching!
Then check what terminals are switched by the switch - the above suggestion could result in you feeding 100v (240v?) into your 12v system!
Common sense says that the two red wires are connected by the switch and the same for the yellow. i.e the two red to the top and the two yellow to the bottom connectors. Switches do not normally work as previously suggested.I would double check that the switch is rated for 100v (240v?) also.
If you don't have a multimeter to check and are not confident dealing with mains voltages get someone to help you.
 
"i.e the two red to the top and the two yellow to the bottom connectors. Switches do not normally work as previously suggested."

I don't think so

What you have is a double pole three position switch. The three terminals on the left are one pole(switch) with the middle position being off. Move switch up and the middle pin(2) connects to the top pin(1). Move down and the middle pin(2) connects to the bottom pin(3). The right hand terminals work exactly the same way with pins marked 4, 5 and 6.

Connect as Tony has suggested. Yellows to pin 1 and pin 2. Reds to pin 5 and 6
 
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Tony Lee said:
The way the wires are lying in the middle picture is the way they were when connected to the switch.

Hold the switch up close to the wires in exactly the same position as the switch is in when the cover is on - ie so the toggle moves up and down

Looking from the FRONT of the switch The top yellow wire goes on the top left terminal. The bottom yellow wire goes on the left middle terminal. The top red wire goes on the right bottom terminal and the bottom red wire goes on the right middle terminal.

This is based on the orientation of the connectors as shown in the photo.



BTW - if they did actually just fall off the switch when you took the cover off, the connectors have lost their spring and need to be replaced.

If you took them off and have forgotten where they were - we've all done that.




Y-- --

Y| R|

-- R--
This is looking from the toggle side of the switch.

If this results in it working but with the 12V and the mains positions reversed, then you can just twist the switch (with wires still connected) 180 degrees to make the positions match the label.
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Cheers for the answers.
When I pulled off the cover they all came away the wires were not long enough, should have removed the ring locking nut to the switch.
I have now tried the above Tony. On the mains supply I got a loud buzz and the fuse blew again. It looks like something else is amiss, I'll have to get someone to look at it for me. Are the yellow 12v and the red mains.
Cheers again John:)
 
shortcircuit said:
"i.e the two red to the top and the two yellow to the bottom connectors. Switches do not normally work as previously suggested."

I don't think so

What you have is a double pole three position switch. The three terminals on the left are one pole(switch) with the middle position being off. Move switch up and the middle pin(2) connects to the top pin(1). Move down and the middle pin(2) connects to the bottom pin(3). The right hand terminals work exactly the same way with pins marked 4, 5 and 6.

Connect as Tony has suggested. Yellows to pin 1 and pin 2. Reds to pin 5 and 6
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And the result is.........
BANG!
 
oldiebutgoodie said:
Dangerous!:eek:
I would test the wires to see what voltage they are carrying and where they go before you start mixing and matching!
Then check what terminals are switched by the switch - the above suggestion could result in you feeding 100v (240v?) into your 12v system!
Common sense says that the two red wires are connected by the switch and the same for the yellow. i.e the two red to the top and the two yellow to the bottom connectors. Switches do not normally work as previously suggested.I would double check that the switch is rated for 100v (240v?) also.
If you don't have a multimeter to check and are not confident dealing with mains voltages get someone to help you.
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Hi oldie
Tried the reds on the top and yellows on the bottom too.
As I said I'l get someone to help cheers anyway
John:)
 
This is why I suggested checking which terminals are connected by the switch first - as there are differing types of switch!
 
oldiebutgoodie said:
And the result is.........
BANG!
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Did it? Don't see that anywhere. And if so why. As Jonny has said "something else is amiss" otherwise, why has he opened it up?

Without going to technical, mixing voltage this way, as appears has been done, is not particularly good practice.

Jonny what is your original problem that had you take the cover off?
 
shortcircuit said:
Did it? Don't see that anywhere. And if so why. As Jonny has said "something else is amiss" otherwise, why has he opened it up?

Without going to technical, mixing voltage this way, as appears has been done, is not particularly good practice.

Jonny what is your original problem that had you take the cover off?
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It appears to be a very strange setup 100v and 12v if the labelling is to be believed. Maybe it is a switch (even though we don't know what type of switch it is) for an inverter running through the mains wiring? You're right about not mixing voltages if that is what is happening there.
Some probing of the switch and wiring with the trusty old avo is called for methinks.
 
oldiebutgoodie said:
Dangerous!:eek:

Common sense says that the two red wires are connected by the switch and the same for the yellow. i.e the two red to the top and the two yellow to the bottom connectors. Switches do not normally work as previously suggested.
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Commonsense doesn't apply in this case. It is a two pole changeover switch with a centre off position.

Two reds to the top and the two yellows to the bottom at least won't blow any fuses.

And the result is.........
BANG!
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This has already happened twice before with wires connected at random so who knows what has happened to the circuitry. 240v fed into 12V???

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Perhaps we should have asked - what fuses are blowing - low voltage fuses
 
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shortcircuit said:
Did it? Don't see that anywhere. And if so why. As Jonny has said "something else is amiss" otherwise, why has he opened it up?

Without going to technical, mixing voltage this way, as appears has been done, is not particularly good practice.

Jonny what is your original problem that had you take the cover off?
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I could get the fridge working on gas, but not on mains, the igniter still works on the 12v system
I hope I haven't caused a problem between you, I am getting a little confused:confused:
cheers john:)
ps it is a 5amp on the 100v
 
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This is the main Panel
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This is the fuse that is blowing
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Sorry they are amps not volts
 
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