SORNing your vehicle whilst on a campsite.

El Veterano said:
As I have said before in this thread, the definition of a 'road' can vary immensely. My camper is SORN'd on it's allocated plot within a CaSSOA secure facility and if anyone wants to call that a road they are most welcome. I think as far as the DVLA are concerned it is off the highway and that is all that matters, if it was parked in a street outside my house that would be a different matter altogether.
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True - but as has been stated before, there is case evidence that a campsite can be construed as the highway, in which case the insurance may be invalid if the vehicle is SORNed on a campsite..............which was the original question! :)
 
Hi Campers,

I spent a lot of money taxing my van between coming back from Europe in September over the past 5 years up to May and don't use it,so sorned it end of December and got £95.00p back better in my bank I think. 6 months from now on and cut the mileage on the Insurance.

Snowbirds.
 
The Camper said:
I worded it badly.
In the good old days (pre October) you needed to display a tax disc making it difficult to SORN it and then re tax it whilst abroad.
Now as I understand it you can SORN it for a month and then tax it for a month ad infinitum, so why not use the system to work in our favour for a change.
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So you go to the continent for 4 weeks and four months later you are still there. The tax reminder letter is on your doormat at home with you premium bond cheque and there is no longer a tax disc to give a reminder in the windscreen and your MoT has run over too. Is a European Mot, if there is such a thing, valid and usable to tax the van from abroad when you it eventually occurs to you?
 
pheasantplucker said:
So you go to the continent for 4 weeks and four months later you are still there. The tax reminder letter is on your doormat at home with you premium bond cheque and there is no longer a tax disc to give a reminder in the windscreen and your MoT has run over too. Is a European Mot, if there is such a thing, valid and usable to tax the van from abroad when you it eventually occurs to you?
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On the MOT front here in Portugal the MOT stations can do a UK MOT but it is not acceptable in the UK as they are not VOSA approved and not connected to the VOSA system.
 
El Veterano said:
I taxed the camper at the end of December on the new monthly direct debit system, to use (unexpectedly) over Christmas in France. When we got back on 28th December I put the camper in it's storage facility and immediately SORN'd it and the direct debit was cancelled. We will next use the camper in February and I will go through the process of taxing it again. It only takes a few minutes anyway. So I suppose that could be construed as taxing it for a month at a time...
However, curiously, when you do this online the web page states that the SORN will begin from the month you are in, in my case December. But the £20 and a bit for Decembers 'rent' remains paid, and not refunded and therefore I consider that to imply that it was taxed for the month of December. But was it taxed AND SORN'd (?) now there's a question.
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The RFL ends at the time of SORN. You can SORN at any future date, on line or by post or telephone, whilst a RFL is in place. The way to have your vehicle tax up to the end of the month is to SORN it from the last day of the month!

Once SORNed it stays that way until you tax or sell the car.

The way to use the SORN system to TAX your vehicle for a month at a time without loosing money is to tax it for twelve months every time.

If you do it for six months or by DD you will lose/pay the 'penalty' portion of the payment you have made to use these facilities.

If you pre-book by phone/on-line your vehicle in at a MOT station local to your port of arrival and ask them to record your Vehicle reg then you can travel to that MOT station legally without TAX. Once MOTed you can tax on line using the garages wi-fi and drive home in the knowledge you are fully compliant.
 
I 2nd that what David said you can not drive it in Spain if you have not got a MOT :wave: love sunny warm day again:D:D:D
 
kenspain said:
I 2nd that what David said you can not drive it in Spain if you have not got a MOT :wave: love sunny warm day again:D:D:D
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Ditto Ken - but they are forecasting showers for tomorrow morning. Not a word I am familiar with - what does it mean? ;):rolleyes2::lol-049:
 
John H said:
Ditto Ken - but they are forecasting showers for tomorrow morning. Not a word I am familiar with - what does it mean? ;):rolleyes2::lol-049:
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In my book ‘showers’ is the collective noun for motor homers in Spain that brag about the weather :lol-053:
 
John H said:
Ditto Ken - but they are forecasting showers for tomorrow morning. Not a word I am familiar with - what does it mean? ;):rolleyes2::lol-049:
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John they only say that to keep that lot happy over there but we could do with some its been so long i forgot what it looks like:lol-053::lol-053::lol-053::wave:
 
Last rain here in Bolnuevo was 14th December. Showers forecast for tomorrow. That'll save me watering the Poinsettia:)
Pat
 
Just to bring this back on topic for a minute. Someone might have already posted a similar point but I haven't read all 21 pages!

We work for the C&CC and are on a site for at least 6 months of they year, living in our van. It is insured with Comfort who are informed of the facts. We also SORN it for the time it is there. No one at Comfort has told me it can't be SORN-ed and insured at the same time. They just cover me for fire & theft.

If we do have to leave the site in the van we just tax it on line and away we go.
 
Polar Bear said:
The RFL ends at the time of SORN. You can SORN at any future date, on line or by post or telephone, whilst a RFL is in place. The way to have your vehicle tax up to the end of the month is to SORN it from the last day of the month!

Once SORNed it stays that way until you tax or sell the car.

The way to use the SORN system to TAX your vehicle for a month at a time without loosing money is to tax it for twelve months every time.

If you do it for six months or by DD you will lose/pay the 'penalty' portion of the payment you have made to use these facilities.

If you pre-book by phone/on-line your vehicle in at a MOT station local to your port of arrival and ask them to record your Vehicle reg then you can travel to that MOT station legally without TAX. Once MOTed you can tax on line using the garages wi-fi and drive home in the knowledge you are fully compliant.
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I am not saying one should not be MOTed or taxed at all times whilst abroad. I'm just pointing out what to do if you forget and your MOT runs out and you can not tax before re-entering the UK.
 
So if I wild camp at a pub for more than a month I could save about 20 quid. Is it worth the hastle ?
 
Annsman said:
Just to bring this back on topic for a minute. Someone might have already posted a similar point but I haven't read all 21 pages!

We work for the C&CC and are on a site for at least 6 months of they year, living in our van. It is insured with Comfort who are informed of the facts. We also SORN it for the time it is there. No one at Comfort has told me it can't be SORN-ed and insured at the same time. They just cover me for fire & theft.

If we do have to leave the site in the van we just tax it on line and away we go.
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Which demonstrates why it is always important to check with your Insurance Company - because, as was pointed out earlier, the other Club doesn't allow vehicles to be SORNed on site.
 
Motorhomelover said:
So if I wild camp at a pub for more than a month I could save about 20 quid. Is it worth the hastle ?
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But a pub car park may well be considered the highway for tax and insurance purposes because it is private land to which the public have access. Wherever anyone is thinking of SORNing, other than their own drive or a designated storage area, it is wise to check first.
 
I only said it was useful, and I didn't see the need to start another thread! Anyway, since when have any of you lot had a problem with slight thread diversication?
John
 
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