Sleeping in Cars/Vans Again

Make sure if you hand keys to a third party they have insurance, otherwise they cannot be in charge on a public place and could get done by cops.
 
mark61 said:
A link to prove that point will be a long time coming. :ROFLMAO:

Holding keys doesn't automatically mean you are in charge, although it probably does if you are sitting behind the wheel.
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I've done it a few times at my local Mark, leave the keys with the landlord and sleep in the van - saves me a taxi home after a very late night!

I'm sure that he couldn't be done for being drunk in charge of my vehicle whilst he's in his bed in the pub!
 
edina said:
So if I give someone a spare key to my house, they have to have insurance covering my house? :unsure:

They are just in charge of the keys. Not the vehicle/house the keys fit.
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I stayed outside the RAFA club in St Neots for a late party Chris. The car park was full so I stayed outside on the street and left the keys with the landlord.

I was parked 50 yards from the Police Station! 😊
 
Watched the video yesterday and it didn't really offer any more than most members already know. Useful reminder I guess and maybe useful to newbies.

We hide the keys when drinking on board and given the crap we carry around it would take them an age (if ever) to find them.
But of course, I've dropped the keys outside somewhere when taking a stroll, can't find them, so will look for them in the morning. 🤔😏😉
 
alcam said:
You surely wouldn't give keys to a third party who was in the same vehicle ?
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I laughed Allen, but I actually do that in some places.

Julie doesn't drink and is fully insured for the van (even though she has never driven it). Once I go to the pub she puts them in her handbag and if push came to shove she could drive it if we had to move on.
 
I spoke to my cousin about this a few years ago, he was a retired Sargent from the traffic division, in his words if you were charged for sleeping in the van the officer would have to be a total cnut. If it went to court he was confident it would be thrown out or the judge would take into consideration what was explained in the video into the circumstances and no further action taken maybe a caution. TAKE NOTE ! Police have a thing called the attitude test within the first ten minutes or so, if you go all guns blazing when approached expect a harsh return!
 
Robmac said:
I laughed Allen, but I actually do that in some places.

Julie doesn't drink and is fully insured for the van (even though she has never driven it). Once I go to the pub she puts them in her handbag and if push came to shove she could drive it if we had to move on.
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Yea you're giving keys to a sober , insured driver .
Didn't watch the video, find that guy irritating as ferk
I do have a drink in the van when I'm parked up . Blinds shut , seats turned round . Naked of course, apart from pyjama top .
Police never bother me
 
Scotia said:
TAKE NOTE ! Police have a thing called the attitude test within the first ten minutes or so, if you go all guns blazing when approached expect a harsh return!
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I got let off of a ticket once Sam. The Cop approached and asked why I was doing 60 in a 50 limit, I replied "Yeah, sorry it must have been a lapse in concentration" I then thought to myself that I might just have earned a further ticket for driving without due care and attention.

But no, the Cop said usually people get shirty or go into denial but it's very rarely that people actually admit it and say sorry, "on your way son and take your time".
 
mark61 said:
haha, why was you doing 60 in a 50 limit?

Because 90 would be too fast. :LOL:
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Somebody who might have been me once did about 160 along the A14 late at night and went past a Police car in a layby. Obviously they didn't clock the number plate and this person got off at the next junction whilst they were still on their way out of the layby. 😊
 
In our unit, the habitation area is completely separate from the cab. so with cab locked and us in the camper and the cab keys in a cupboard out if the way, it would take a very inventive court to determine either of us were "in charge" of the vehicle.

I did know one person when I was young, his car was parked on the road outside his house. He had walked to the pub and had a drink, walked home. Then needed something from his car, so he went out, unlocked the passenger door and leaned in, and a passing policeman questioned him, breathalysed him and he got done for drunk in charge. That is the attitude that makes people hate the police.
 
Robmac said:
Link Trev?
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mark61 said:
A link to prove that point will be a long time coming. :ROFLMAO:

Holding keys doesn't automatically mean you are in charge, although it probably does if you are sitting behind the wheel.
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My brother is/was in the police and told me so, nomater who has the keys someone has to be in charge, you can even be at home with the van/car parked on public rd and get done for being in charge.
 
mark61 said:
A link to prove that point will be a long time coming. :ROFLMAO:

Holding keys doesn't automatically mean you are in charge, although it probably does if you are sitting behind the wheel.
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Strange as some years back a chap i knew was sleeping in the back seat and got done as he was elephants trunk.
 
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