Side facing seats ?

Thanks for that info. Who on earth is going to control school buses. Kids cant even behave in school and there is little chance of the driver being listened too. Another example of ineffective legislation.
 
Yes indeed point taken..how many children always do exactly what they are told....or put them on, and then slip them off
even in a car....I suspect some accidents in private vehicles have happened because the driver is distracted by a child
not doing as they are told and having to be constantly checked on.
 
shortcircuit said:
Thanks for that info. Who on earth is going to control school buses. Kids cant even behave in school and there is little chance of the driver being listened too. Another example of ineffective legislation.
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Kids can't even behave at home... drive them to school on flatbed trucks and let Natural Selection do what it was designed for.
 
Mark McGimpsey said:
Also if you are going anywhere near London there is also the Low Emissions Zone standard to comply with for older
motorhomes and that can also make an older purchase a waste of money as it's in the region of £1500 to comply or £100 a day fine enforced
by camera surveillence.
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I wasn't aware of this. Lots of questions!!!
Do you have a link, please? Does this mean that loads of old vehicles are effectively banned from London if they don't have whatever conversions to reduce their emissions?
And how can cameras detect emissions?
 
You have to register with the vehicle's registration and keeper details and provide proof of compliance by forwarding
the relevant certification. If the year and make is already a known compliant vehicle, you still have to register (free
registration by the way for all applicants), or your registration plate will be read and checked against records and if not
registered (compliant or not), you still get a fine.

(Makes me wonder though what would happen if you found an identical vehicle in colour and model and displayed
ringer plates. Would you be lucky enough to find one that was registered, or would some poor sod somewhere get
a 'surprise' penalty ticket?)
 
Mark McGimpsey said:
You have to register with the vehicle's registration and keeper details and provide proof of compliance by forwarding
the relevant certification. If the year and make is already a known compliant vehicle, you still have to register (free
registration by the way for all applicants), or your registration plate will be read and checked against records and if not
registered (compliant or not), you still get a fine.

(Makes me wonder though what would happen if you found an identical vehicle in colour and model and displayed
ringer plates. Would you be lucky enough to find one that was registered, or would some poor sod somewhere get
a 'surprise' penalty ticket?)
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So every single vehicle planning to drive through/ near London has to register in advance? Surely that can't be workable? Does Boris wish to discourage absolutely all visitors or trade?
Please post a link as you've got me really worried now: planning to go down and visit friends/ relatives soon in my car, and I thought the congestion charge was all I had to worry about!
 
Sorry didn't make that clear...not all will have to register, some of the newer won't, but some which are compliant
now won't when the standard changes next year. You need to read it and check how you stand for your vehicle.
Vehicles registered in N.I. have to register whether compliant or not. Not sure about the Isle of Man.

The real problems will start when the major cities decide this is a good idea and also introduce LEZs (after all
they get the chance to fine people and raise money don't they?).
 
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Mark McGimpsey said:
The LEZ link is here: Low Emission Zone | Transport for London

There is also another thread on the LEZ in the main index.
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Cars and motorcycles are exempt from this. I also typed in the registration number of my camper to be told (thankfully) that is it not subject to the LEZ. Perhaps in future you might consider pausing before posting things that may cause people unnecessary worry?

And BTW both my car and my campervan (especially!) are not at all new but very old... ;-)
 
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Eh? can't you go Google it yourself - I'm only trying to answer your question! (which is not what this thread was about).
Yes I mentioned it in passing - but we weren't discussing it on this thread.
 
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HI stormywalters

stormywalters said:
Thanks.... Probably wont sit in the back when traveling but was just interested to know if it was true.
Thanks again Happy camping
Stormy
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This is matilda yes the day after i met you i gave a lift to two people we met on norton farm site at Corfe castle, as they did not want to drive into Poole centre with their big motorhome, they missed the bus out side the campsite, so i said i give you lift into Poole as i have side seats in my vw and we were going that way, my good deed for day.it was nice to meet you at kimmeridge bay . Paul and Sylvia hope we see next year.
 
LEZ only effects diesel engines and vehicles over a certain weight. It works just like the congestion charge. The cameras pick up each registration plate and it only takes a fraction of a second for the computers to check if that plate is eligible for a fine.

Regardless of whether side seats are legal for travelling or not, I would never carry passengers in them. It's an unrestrained load which will come crashing through you if you had an accident. So I'm not sure what the debate is about on this one.
 
It seems I am compliant, But alas another reason to keep away from the ****hole called Great Britain.

The country has gone mad ...last one out switch the lights off

Always someone telling me what I will and wont do ....I dont think so

Channa
 
Matilda said:
This is matilda yes the day after i met you i gave a lift to two people we met on norton farm site at Corfe castle, as they did not want to drive into Poole centre with their big motorhome, they missed the bus out side the campsite, so i said i give you lift into Poole as i have side seats in my vw and we were going that way, my good deed for day.it was nice to meet you at kimmeridge bay . Paul and Sylvia hope we see next year.
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Hiya... We`ve just got back from Kimmeridge this weekend, lovely weather again but not as hot. Was nice to meet you and have a chat along with all the other dub owners. We`ll be passing your neck of the woods after xmas on our way to Hayle for 4 nights. Sue and Steve :wave:
 
stormywalters said:
Hiya... We`ve just got back from Kimmeridge this weekend, lovely weather again but not as hot. Was nice to meet you and have a chat along with all the other dub owners. We`ll be passing your neck of the woods after xmas on our way to Hayle for 4 nights. Sue and Steve :wave:
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noooooooooo dub owners lol. its just a van with 4 wheels. just like any other metal box with wheels. i cant understand the mad vw thing.
 
hi, i,m lost on this thread. campers and m,homes were exempt seatbelts in the rear till quite recently. no lts required regardless of how the seats werre arranged . they still dont need them iregistered before the date .might be end of 2007 i think . cant remember . the law about kids does sort of change it.
but if its not got any then adults dont need to worry you dont have them . i took mine out in the truck as they were optional. dont like wearing them and dont like being told if there are any i must wear them. sorted
cooljules in a t25 if it was a camper you wouldnt need belts in the back. so dont fit them .
 
vwalan said:
hi, i,m lost on this thread. campers and m,homes were exempt seatbelts in the rear till quite recently. no lts required regardless of how the seats werre arranged . they still dont need them iregistered before the date .might be end of 2007 i think . cant remember . the law about kids does sort of change it.
but if its not got any then adults dont need to worry you dont have them . i took mine out in the truck as they were optional. dont like wearing them and dont like being told if there are any i must wear them. sorted
cooljules in a t25 if it was a camper you wouldnt need belts in the back. so dont fit them .
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i did have a T3, now i have a LT35, 1995. at present will be making a double side facing seat/fold out bed.
 
Here`s the thing ~~~~~ When its a van I`ve got 6 seats in the back all front facing with seat belts. When it`s a camper i`ve got a bed Sooooo seat belts are surplace to requirements unless it`s a full moon ;) then I need all the help I can get. But seriously I was just curious....

Cooljules VW thing ~~~ cheeky boy :)

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stormywalters said:
Here`s the thing ~~~~~ When its a van I`ve got 6 seats in the back all front facing with seat belts. When it`s a camper i`ve got a bed Sooooo seat belts are surplace to requirements unless it`s a full moon ;) then I need all the help I can get. But seriously I was just curious....

Cooljules VW thing ~~~ cheeky boy :)

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but i had a T3, and i have a LT35 now, vw's but still metal boxes with wheels to me.
 
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