Service station robbery - not an urban myth

Tbear said:
The gas most commonly used to gas to send people off to sleep is Sevoflurane which costs about £85 a 250ml bottle if you can get hold of it. You need to maintain an 8% concentration to get them to sleep and then drop it to 2% to keep them asleep. The kit we use to do this costs about £30 000. It takes an Anaesthetist and a qualified assistant to do this safely. One of the common side effects is you stop breathing, another is that your airway closes off. You think you can do it by wafting something next to a vent.:lol-049:
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You realise that with all this specialist knowledge you have become the prime suspect here ..........:lol-061:
 
Tbear said:
The gas most commonly used to gas to send people off to sleep is Sevoflurane which costs about £85 a 250ml bottle if you can get hold of it. You need to maintain an 8% concentration to get them to sleep and then drop it to 2% to keep them asleep. The kit we use to do this costs about £30 000. It takes an Anaesthetist and a qualified assistant to do this safely. One of the common side effects is you stop breathing, another is that your airway closes off. You think you can do it by wafting something next to a vent.:lol-049:
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I think you're wrong Richard. When I watched batman as a kid, the Penguin wafted his umbrella under Batman's nose and a whisp of gas came out and Batman dropped unconscious in 2 seconds flat!
 
Robmac said:
I think you're wrong Richard. When I watched batman as a kid, the Penguin wafted his umbrella under Batman's nose and a whisp of gas came out and Batman dropped unconscious in 2 seconds flat!
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OK That's it! I'm off to stick my head in the oven

Damn! Its electric

Richard
 
Tbear said:
The gas most commonly used to gas to send people off to sleep is Sevoflurane which costs about £85 a 250ml bottle if you can get hold of it. You need to maintain an 8% concentration to get them to sleep and then drop it to 2% to keep them asleep. The kit we use to do this costs about £30 000. It takes an Anaesthetist and a qualified assistant to do this safely. One of the common side effects is you stop breathing, another is that your airway closes off. You think you can do it by wafting something next to a vent.:lol-049:
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That's it - problem solved. They're looking for the wrong people for all these robberies - arrest every anaesthetist you can find and we'll all be able to sleep in peace! :lol-061:
 
John H said:
That's it - problem solved. They're looking for the wrong people for all these robberies - arrest every anaesthetist you can find and we'll all be able to sleep in peace! :lol-061:
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Don't forget their assistants. I could do with Sky TV, 3 meals a day and a nice rest for a while. All for free as well:lol-061:

Richard
 
Tbear said:
The gas most commonly used to gas to send people off to sleep is Sevoflurane which costs about £85 a 250ml bottle if you can get hold of it. You need to maintain an 8% concentration to get them to sleep and then drop it to 2% to keep them asleep. The kit we use to do this costs about £30 000. It takes an Anaesthetist and a qualified assistant to do this safely. One of the common side effects is you stop breathing, another is that your airway closes off. You think you can do it by wafting something next to a vent.:lol-049:
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As we have someone who knows about this subject can I just ask if this is possible,, You and your other half are asleep, someone forces the lock on the van, this is very easy to do without waking you, they get in and then they put a substance over you nose to keep you asleep. This would make you think you were gassed or the police to say you were gassed. Alarms would not be a problem if they were professionals. This way of doing it would seem far easer. and could answer a few of the questions regarding this subject, as it seems to raise its head ever now and again.


:drive: :drive:
 
dave and mary said:
As we have someone who knows about this subject can I just ask if this is possible,, You and your other half are asleep, someone forces the lock on the van, this is very easy to do without waking you, they get in and then they put a substance over you nose to keep you asleep. This would make you think you were gassed or the police to say you were gassed. Alarms would not be a problem if they were professionals. This way of doing it would seem far easer. and could answer a few of the questions regarding this subject, as it seems to raise its head ever now and again.


:drive: :drive:
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That is far more plausable than having gas pumped in through the vents.
 
I really wanted to remark on that last word,but good taste prevents me doing so
 
dave and mary said:
As we have someone who knows about this subject can I just ask if this is possible,, You and your other half are asleep, someone forces the lock on the van, this is very easy to do without waking you, they get in and then they put a substance over you nose to keep you asleep. This would make you think you were gassed or the police to say you were gassed. Alarms would not be a problem if they were professionals. This way of doing it would seem far easer. and could answer a few of the questions regarding this subject, as it seems to raise its head ever now and again.


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Please try to stop watching cheap American movies.

Most of these type of gases Stink so it would be like giving you smelling salts.

If you really want to worry about something. Try sunburn or dysentery or exploding tyres. You are not going to be gassed in your sleep unless you really pee off the Russian Special Forces.

Richard
 
Tbear said:
Please try to stop watching cheap American movies.

Most of these type of gases Stink so it would be like giving you smelling salts.

If you really want to worry about something. Try sunburn or dysentery or exploding tyres. You are not going to be gassed in your sleep unless you really pee off the Russian Special Forces.

Richard
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Richard you behave yourself, you know the special alpha team of the spetnatz are prevalent training ground, french autoroutes.

Whatever happened to chloroform?

I agree with you earlier and I am only a humble LPG gas engineer. The ventilation built into a coachbuilt van at least would make gassing difficult.

What I find interesting is in all these myths of gassing no-one has shared the consequent results of a blood test.. Perhaps because its all a myth?

As you are aware the phlebotomy guys tend to be on the money in respect of intoxicants or other substances that affect ceberal function.

All these gassing stories surely by now by blood test we would have evidence of the gas used to incapacitate.

Channa
 
channa said:
Richard you behave yourself, you know the special alpha team of the spetnatz are prevalent training ground, french autoroutes.

Whatever happened to chloroform?

I agree with you earlier and I am only a humble LPG gas engineer. The ventilation built into a coachbuilt van at least would make gassing difficult.

What I find interesting is in all these myths of gassing no-one has shared the consequent results of a blood test.. Perhaps because its all a myth?

As you are aware the phlebotomy guys tend to be on the money in respect of intoxicants or other substances that affect ceberal function.

All these gassing stories surely by now by blood test we would have evidence of the gas used to incapacitate.

Channa
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Hi Channa,

You don't need a blood test. Ether and chloroform (I'm going to kill N Brown) both stink to high heaven. It would take a week to shift the stench out of the van. You would not want to stay in it for several days at least. We did one Ether anaesthetic in Germany and it stank the whole department out for days. That's with a theatre ventilation system trying to shift it.

Richard
 
Hi Fazerloz

It is possible to self gas - Its called solvent abuse and you have just confessed to it:)

Richard
 
dave and mary said:
Please be prepared for a lot of non believers about your story, the so called experts say it can not happen, so a lot of people believe them, all I will say is your not alone in this sort of thing happening. :drive: :drive:
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Any opinion on previous postings from your experience?
 
the gassing bit may no more than a myth , but the dangers of overnighting on motorways are real
it got so bad on motorways in southern france that 2 years ago the gendarmerie had a purge , and arrested over 50 thieves in a 24 hour period

last year the gendarmerie made a number of arrests of thieves robbing people by imitating gendarmes !!!
 
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DIETHYL ETHER 10-30%
Isohexane 10-30%
Propane 10-30%
DI-ISOPROPYL ETHER 10-30%
ACETONE 5-10%
PYRIDINE < 1%
Just looks like all sleepy stuff to me .:sleep-027::sleep-027:
 
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