Service station robbery - not an urban myth

r4dent said:
Doesn't anyone read things before they post a reply?
The incident happened in Belgium not France.
I also thought it only happened to "a friend of a friends brothers uncle" and when it happened to me I posted it to warn others to be more careful than I was, and not in an attempt to stop people going over.

Since you ask I've attached the Police Certificate; my statement; a photo of the damage and a photo of my van with the Police car alongside. I've hidden my personal details, I hope you can accept that.



I look forward to you "catagorically" (sic) verifying my claim and posting an abject apology forthwith!

P.S.
I won't be in calis (sic) on 14th. But if you PM me for my address you could call in on your way home and see the damage and original documents. That should stop you saying I've photo shopped the pictures.
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posting abject apology ! but whats with the "sic"comment?what is that for?
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I make no claims but this was mystifying:-

Several years ago when my then fiancé and I still lived in my homeland, Zimbabwe, I awoke one morning having overslept. I shook my fiancé awake and in something of a daze we wandered around our completely empty flat mildly irritated by the lack of fridge and therefore breakfast. We dressed in the two pairs of painting overalls which appeared to be the only clothes we possessed. It seemed odd that we couldn't find the car keys or indeed the car but I don't recall being unduly worried or suspicious. I walked to work and it was only as I walked the strangeness of the situation began to strike me but only slightly. When I arrived at work to some raised eyebrows at my attire, I gradually told my colleagues of the situation I had found myself in and as I spoke the weirdness of the entire sorry situation struck me and it was only at that point that I realised that we had been comprehensively burgled. It was a very odd experience and the police (who were far from reliable) said that we must have been drugged in some way. The inspection of the flat revealed the window where the thieves had cut a hole in the glass but blood tests that were carried out on us later that day revealed nothing. As far as I can remember, there was no odd smell. I have no explanation. I did not drink or take drugs. My fiancé and I both experienced the same, strange, detached lack of realisation till late morning. Just thought I'd say. Odd stuff happens.
 
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The previous evening we had got home from work, eaten dinner, watched telly and gone to bed so we hadn't been anywhere where drinks could have been spiked.
 
Since you ask I've attached the Police Certificate; my statement; a photo of the damage and a photo of my van with the Police car alongside. I've hidden my personal details, I hope you can accept that.
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Thanks for you report R4dent, any idea how the door window was opened? Is it a vertically sliding window?
 
Im not a phlebotomist, but surely if all this gassing took place the police would request a blood test to hep convict the perpetrators when apprehended....never read or heard it being offered..

a gas if rendered unconscious , surely would leave a trace in the blood stream minute perhaps but suggest the gas that incapictates.


never heard of it happening, so no wonder why I am sceptical,,,,other than a simple dust under the carpet by the rozzers

Channa
 
mandymops said:
Several years ago when my then fiancé and I still lived in my homeland, Zimbabwe, I awoke one morning having overslept. I shook my fiancé awake and in something of a daze we wandered around our completely empty flat mildly irritated by the lack of fridge and therefore breakfast. We dressed in the two pairs of painting overalls which appeared to be the only clothes we possessed. It seemed odd that we couldn't find the car keys or indeed the car but I don't recall being unduly worried or suspicious. I walked to work and it was only as I walked the strangeness of the situation began to strike me but only slightly. When I arrived at work to some raised eyebrows at my attire, I gradually told my colleagues of the situation I had found myself in and as I spoke the weirdness of the entire sorry situation struck me and it was only at that point that I realised that we had been comprehensively burgled. It was a very odd experience and the police (who were far from reliable) said that we must have been drugged in some way. The inspection of the flat revealed the window where the thieves had cut a hole in the glass but blood tests that were carried out on us later that day revealed nothing. As far as I can remember, there was no odd smell. I have no explanation. I did not drink or take drugs. My fiancé and I both experienced the same, strange, detached lack of realisation till late morning. Just thought I'd say. Odd stuff happens.
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Interesting !. Evidence of an obviously altered mental state on awaking, which is what one might expect more victims of 'gassing' would experience.
 
A slight tangent, but I have (or rather we all suspect at least) that I had my drink spiked once.

I'll admit to not being a complete heavy-weight drinker, but i'm not too bad. Anyway, friends birthday, go to bar, order my first bottle of beer, have a glug, pop to toilet, come back, have several more glugs (so now approx 1/3 of my way into my first drink of the day). Next thing I remember i'm in A&E with my mates about 2 hrs later.

A&E didn't take it particularly seriously which in some ways I can completely get (surrounded by numerous other people drunk out of their skulls), but given that it had been explained to them that i'd had circa 1/3 of a bottle of weak beer (resulting in me apparently crawling around the floor clutching my chest saying that I couldn't breathe) a slightly more thorough approach may have been nice.

Anyway, a few hours later and the effects have completely gone so just left A&E and kept an eye on things for a day or 2.

So no evidence, but collapsing, clutching chest and blacking-out after 1/3 bottle of becks (other than as a statement to the taste) would suggest some other factor at play, and spiking would seem to possibly fit the bill (though you could also argue possible underlying medical condition etc).



Soooooooo with that in mind, and back onto the subject at hand, the thought occurs (and i'll say that I'm still of the opinion that it's simply people being heavily asleep) - but just in the interest of looking at all options (and based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever other than a hypothetical query) - could your water tank get 'spiked' with something by way of the fill point?

As I say, I don't believe this to be the case at all, i'm just curious as I don't seem to have come across it as an option in discussions.
 
can't see that scenario,nobody would know what size tank they're spiking.and as for spiking drinks,it's usually done for a reason,either sexual or for robbery or abduction. mind you there are people out there might give you a micky for a laugh,spiking drinks with lsd wasn't unheard of when I were a lad
 
Well it turned out a few weeks later that there had been a spate of it in Leeds over the space of that month - nice. I want to say from memory it was something like horse tranquilizers but that doesn't sound right. I think it was some type of veterinary medication though (as in used by rather than used on):)
 
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I am quite sure that the security services of various major powers have come up with some form of knockout gas which in theory leaves the victims none the wiser that they have been done over, but that is a very long way from sundry villains wandering the highways and byways of Europe looking for a motorhome to give a squirt to! One does not seem to hear the same level of "gas attack" stories for caravaners!!

Mind you, the Russians tried to use their knockout gas in a major hostage situation and only succeeded in killing half the hostages with the gas. If the KGB managed to cock it up, then I doubt that the petty thieves have greater skills! If one accepts that there is a narrow dividing line between knocking out your victim and actually killing them, one might have expected to hear of more un-attributable deaths of whole families of MH owners whilst on holiday.

Whilst petty thieving of laptops and mobiles and credit cards is a reasonably low risk/low reward crime, the possible death of the victims from gassing makes it a highly risky crime. The police might not get too excited about the loss of laptops and mobiles, but crime causing the death of tourists would hopefully cause a different response.

Why do we not hear of similar instances in the UK?? None of the stories I have ever read about gas attacks ever took place in the UK.

Presumably if this is a not uncommon style of crime, then presumably the police will know which type of gas is being used and would issue warnings. It does not seem to be the sort of stuff that can be cooked up in ones kitchen!! so where does it come from???????????

The real worry in a MH or caravan is carbon monoxide and that really is a killer and quickly, but then that is usually down to faulty maintenance (or lack of maintenance) to the appliances in the vehicle.

Covey will keep the baseball bat handy just in case!!
 
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Ahh, those, I didn't realise they were supposed to reduce car sickness. I had bought one, which was rubber with fine steel wires inside to prevent myself from getting a shock from the static charge when exiting the vehicle - for that it worked extremely well.
 
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