Security measures

[trevskoda]

People who nick do it for a living or just cant help themselves,friend was in hospital & a young chap next to him had been knee capped for doing cars,my mate said well im sure you will not do that again to which his reply was this is the fifth time.:hammer:

 

[Micky]

Ether

Hi all .sitting on great site,camping la masia,Blanes.17 euro s well in.chat next door autotrail,xmass time,ether sprayed in fridge vent.knocked the dog out too, nail under drivers door handle to gain access,£4.500 gone,they knew or herd nothing.police french refused to come so no crime number for insurance.first people i have come accross so far.i thought new vehicals had steel plate behind door keys to stop this.anyway his vehical cost £60.000. 10 pence nail got in.bye the way stopped at free car park blanes,10 motorhome spots foc.dont bother noisey.pay or move on.mick.sorry about the spelling,i am on holiday drinking. O yes 15 plate vehical,check out yours if you have one

 

[Robmac]

Hi all .sitting on great site,camping la masia,Blanes.17 euro s well in.chat next door autotrail,xmass time,ether sprayed in fridge vent.knocked the dog out too, nail under drivers door handle to gain access,£4.500 gone,they knew or herd nothing.police french refused to come so no crime number for insurance.first people i have come accross so far.i thought new vehicals had steel plate behind door keys to stop this.anyway his vehical cost £60.000. 10 pence nail got in.bye the way stopped at free car park blanes,10 motorhome spots foc.dont bother noisey.pay or move on.mick.sorry about the spelling,i am on holiday drinking. O yes 15 plate vehical,check out yours if you have one

Thanks for that.

There may well ensue a 'discussion' regarding the use of ether though!

 

[n brown]

can't raise the energy- i'm a gas-been

 

[Robmac]

can't raise the energy- i'm a gas-been

Come on Nigel, you're ether in or you're out!

 

[yorkslass]

Send some my way. Been sorting out in the van and my back's giving me gyp. Either that or the dancing at weekend.

 

[mossypossy]

I would think my carpet would deter any thief.

 

[IanH]

Steering lock



Hi,

Hopefully these pics will open!

This was on Froggies, a Renault Trafic 1991.

Car exhaust U bolt on both doors, out of way of elbows etc

Hooks into both U bolts, turnbuckle then tightened, take care, pulls doors inward powerfully.

Chain around steering wheel, padlock completes the job!!:mad2:

 

[IanH]

Froggie is a 1991 Renault Trafic, so no airbags etc

When we go away from home, the steering wheel is removed, just one nut, same as a spark plug size.

Wheel hidden away in house!!

DO NOT try this if you have a steering wheel airbag!!!

 

[campervanannie]

Another thing about diskloks.... Unless they have changed recently the medium is the same size as the large....
the medium one just has more foam padding inside... it's certainly the case with 2 of the ones I've got (by rights you need a large for a landrover series2/Series3 )
however a medium with the padding removed fits a treat on ours.

You tend to see far more medium ones for sale at good money (not that they are drastically expensive new at @£100)
But I payed £20 for the last couple I've bought at boot sales/auto jumbles.

They are not the same size I have a large and small and they are definitely a lot bigger and the cheapest new large I found was at the land rover centre Huddersfield £114.
Ignore me not a medium.

 

[IanH]

Got the number for a demo willie.

Voltage was way to low, the thief survived. What use is that, you may still have your car, we all still have a thief. Increase the voltage x 10, no thief!!!!:danger:

 

[chrismilo]

Saudi Arabia.
You've heard of ' Hands.free " ?

Isn't that where our stolen campervans end up ?

 

[1 Cup]

usa

Please tll me where vehicles don't get in the tolen!

They left that buggy up on the moon, think they left the key In the ignition too.
So think about where you park It. Some places are safer than other.lol

 

[maureenandtom]

I've proved to my satisfaction that this little bit of magic can be made to work. Any ideas for or against will be received with thanks.

The idea is to have a PIR sensor in the motorhome. The one I bought to try the system is meant to work patio lights and it won't do. It works but it only works in the dark and there is no sensitivity adjustment on the sensor. PIR stands for Passive Infra Red. A motion sensor.

Here's it laid out on a board to check the theory using it to light up an LED strip.

It works fine – but only in the dark so this particular sensor won't do. But these might: I've ordered two.

Automatic 8A Infrared PIR Motion Sensor Detector Switch For LED light DC 12V-24V | eBay

The idea is to replace the LED strip with a relay. The PIR operates the relay and the relay operates a horn. I plan to use two circuits – two PIRs – to operate two relays to operate two horns. One in the cab to disorient and panic (I hope) thieves and one on the roof to attract attention – mine in the house and any neighbours too. Separate so that disabling one leaves the other operating. This idea can only be used while the van is unoccupied. No good while you're in there asleep.

The whole thing to be switched on by a key operated switch in the power supply – but outside the van – perhaps hidden in the gas locker or the loo cassette locker. Wiring to be hidden behind panels or inside cabinets.

MagiDeal Electric 2 Positions 1NO 1NC SPDT Keylock Switch, AC 250V, 5 Amp with 2 Keys 19mm: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

The weak point is, perhaps, the sensor. Break it and maybe it doesn't work – though maybe it fails safe in the on position if broken while on but I'm not yet ready to try that by breaking one. The internal horn to be hidden maybe behind a speaker grill so the thief can't simply silence it by ripping it off or under the seat as someone else mentioned and, maybe, the PIR sensor behind glass disguised maybe as an internal light for the same reason – more experimentation needed.

It would be easy to vary this idea and wire a horn to courtesy light door switches.

What do you think? If it's so simple why isn't it being used?

And ... no, we haven't replaced the van yet. Lotsl of trivial reasons but I think we're still worried about the next one being stolen too.

 

[trevskoda]

Froggie is a 1991 Renault Trafic, so no airbags etc

When we go away from home, the steering wheel is removed, just one nut, same as a spark plug size.

Wheel hidden away in house!!

DO NOT try this if you have a steering wheel airbag!!!

Can be driven with mole grips on the splines.

 

[trevskoda]

I've proved to my satisfaction that this little bit of magic can be made to work. Any ideas for or against will be received with thanks.

The idea is to have a PIR sensor in the motorhome. The one I bought to try the system is meant to work patio lights and it won't do. It works but it only works in the dark and there is no sensitivity adjustment on the sensor. PIR stands for Passive Infra Red. A motion sensor.

Here's it laid out on a board to check the theory using it to light up an LED strip.

It works fine – but only in the dark so this particular sensor won't do. But these might: I've ordered two.

Automatic 8A Infrared PIR Motion Sensor Detector Switch For LED light DC 12V-24V | eBay

The idea is to replace the LED strip with a relay. The PIR operates the relay and the relay operates a horn. I plan to use two circuits – two PIRs – to operate two relays to operate two horns. One in the cab to disorient and panic (I hope) thieves and one on the roof to attract attention – mine in the house and any neighbours too. Separate so that disabling one leaves the other operating. This idea can only be used while the van is unoccupied. No good while you're in there asleep.

The whole thing to be switched on by a key operated switch in the power supply – but outside the van – perhaps hidden in the gas locker or the loo cassette locker. Wiring to be hidden behind panels or inside cabinets.

MagiDeal Electric 2 Positions 1NO 1NC SPDT Keylock Switch, AC 250V, 5 Amp with 2 Keys 19mm: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

The weak point is, perhaps, the sensor. Break it and maybe it doesn't work – though maybe it fails safe in the on position if broken while on but I'm not yet ready to try that by breaking one. The internal horn to be hidden maybe behind a speaker grill so the thief can't simply silence it by ripping it off or under the seat as someone else mentioned and, maybe, the PIR sensor behind glass disguised maybe as an internal light for the same reason – more experimentation needed.

It would be easy to vary this idea and wire a horn to courtesy light door switches.

What do you think? If it's so simple why isn't it being used?

And ... no, we haven't replaced the van yet. Lotsl of trivial reasons but I think we're still worried about the next one being stolen too.

Use a remote unit with key fob which will work up to 100 yds away,i have one to switch on my door entry and under step lights,about 6/8 bucks ebay
Here is one i did for a chap up my street,the same remote will work a alarm sys and could flash all inside lights.

 

[trevskoda]

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Hi,

Hopefully these pics will open!

This was on Froggies, a Renault Trafic 1991.

Car exhaust U bolt on both doors, out of way of elbows etc

Hooks into both U bolts, turnbuckle then tightened, take care, pulls doors inward powerfully.

Chain around steering wheel, padlock completes the job!!:mad2:View attachment 54012

They will just cut through the steering wheel with a hacksaw.

 

[silverweed]

Hi all .sitting on great site,camping la masia,Blanes.17 euro s well in.chat next door autotrail,xmass time,ether sprayed in fridge vent.knocked the dog out too, nail under drivers door handle to gain access,£4.500 gone,they knew or herd nothing.police french refused to come so no crime number for insurance.first people i have come accross so far.i thought new vehicals had steel plate behind door keys to stop this.anyway his vehical cost £60.000. 10 pence nail got in.bye the way stopped at free car park blanes,10 motorhome spots foc.dont bother noisey.pay or move on.mick.sorry about the spelling,i am on holiday drinking. O yes 15 plate vehical,check out yours if you have one

Not sure how this would work. Am I mistaken or isn't ether highly flammable

 

[trevskoda]

I would think my carpet would deter any thief.

Maybe a lady thief not after carpet, just looking felt.:lol-053:

 

[Pedalman]

I bought a thing called "SafeTpedal" from just kampers, its a strong steel plate and padlock that clamps around the brake pedal and covers all three pedals.
It's very simple and easy to fit and remove and sits in between my front seats when not in use.