Scarborough traders complain

[dodge2transit]

i ant got to the end of this thread yet but befor i forget to say this i will lol, i feel we are killing our hobby and some of us including me are not saying enough to the van owners that are being the problem instead of a solution, so this is how i see this, instead of us complaining about what we have lost and sending out crapy emails why dont some one start a motorcavaning league designed to tackle the bad practise of , as they call it rogue vaners and also tackle the town councils for better . cant think of the word sorry . to tackle designated parking spaces for the likes of us. i see it like this i dont realy wish to use campsites and if i was to i struggle to find them at the prise i can afford to pay as is at the moment but hoping things will change on that score soon. i also read in the clip that we are destroying there economy , i dont get that sorry i spend my money in the town im visiting!
if we had a league i would pay in to it faster than im doing it here on this site, thats another story for another day for why . so who thinks this is a good idea and going to start one lol or who going to rip it to bits as scrap.
the bikers have one its called nabds i think and there is the caravan club they have one as they sort of are one, we have what?
i dont wish to come across rude but time to put up or shut up so to speak sorry dont shoot me for that lol

 

[Burtie]

Every time I go to Scarborough I park on the seafront at north end then I tend to make a trip
up to the council offices to put my views in and I always send emails aswell in the hope that one
day some of my views will be in place when I go back the year after there has been nothing yet
as far as I know as it's been a couple of years since I visited but we can all hope can't we as one day
they may take the hint

 

[Northerner]

The idea that we are 'abusing the system' by not making use of their empty hotel rooms or crabby caravan sites in favour of our chosen leisure pursuit is truly laughable. 'The system' is obviously a comfy closed shop where competition, diversity & freedom of choice are forbidden words.

Yes, and they're probably responsible for the Holocaust as well. And maybe even Third-World poverty the more I think about it.

 

[John H]

Yes, and they're probably responsible for the Holocaust as well. And maybe even Third-World poverty the more I think about it.

...and there was I thinking that you'd taken on board the comments of others and calmed down in the past couple of days! :rolleyes2:

 

[dodge2transit]

Every time I go to Scarborough I park on the seafront at north end then I tend to make a trip
up to the council offices to put my views in and I always send emails aswell in the hope that one
day some of my views will be in place when I go back the year after there has been nothing yet
as far as I know as it's been a couple of years since I visited but we can all hope can't we as one day
they may take the hint

but the problem is your only one man and if more were to do the same you still only look like one man as you dont have a structure or org backing you with connections and cash to help fight the problem your trying to stop or compromise.
if any one was to think this is a grate idea i would not use the word wild camp as this now has a stigmer behind it if this is the correct word to use, i feel that maybe the word freedom motorcaravanning would be more appropriate.

 

[Burtie]

but the problem is your only one man and if more were to do the same you still only look like one man as you dont have a structure or org backing you with connections and cash to help fight the problem your trying to stop or compromise.
if any one was to think this is a grate idea i would not use the word wild camp as this now has a stigmer behind it if this is the correct word to use, i feel that maybe the word freedom motorcaravanning would be more appropriate.

i know exactly what you mean still as it stands i have never been moved on from staying on the seafront
as if that was the case the yorkshire moors are not to far from scarborough there is plenty of places to stay up there and after all it is all the fun of wild camping

 

[dodge2transit]

i know exactly what you mean still as it stands i have never been moved on from staying on the seafront
as if that was the case the yorkshire moors are not to far from scarborough there is plenty of places to stay up there and after all it is all the fun of wild camping

in the name of progress and contral of the masses things do came to a end or change unless you have a big bro to fight your corner.
thats what im trying to say here , hell every paid member is already half way there as this site could be a good start, for example sake you know what i mean.

 

[Burtie]

in the name of progress and contral of the masses things do came to a end or change unless you have a big bro to fight your corner.
thats what im trying to say here , hell every paid member is already half way there as this site could be a good start, for example sake you know what i mean.

Sertainly but I suppose that is an argument for somebody else as I am easy come easy go
but I don't mind reminding people of my situation if I pay for a parking space and someone
don't like where I park they can go for a walk it's just nice to know that in that neck of the woods
there is someone willing to help you especially when you need water or if you need batteries charging
but I couldn't really care less about Scarborough council I don't owe them anything so I think most of the
time I would preper to park away from the town centres then them living there can't complain about me
as I don't do anything wrong

 

[dodge2transit]

Sertainly but I suppose that is an argument for somebody else as I am easy come easy go
but I don't mind reminding people of my situation if I pay for a parking space and someone
don't like where I park they can go for a walk it's just nice to know that in that neck of the woods
there is someone willing to help you especially when you need water or if you need batteries charging
but I couldn't really care less about Scarborough council I don't owe them anything so I think most of the
time I would preper to park away from the town centres then them living there can't complain about me
as I don't do anything wrong

dont get me wrong Burtie im not trying to start any kind of malicious argument, all im saying or trying to say is there will always be van owners that dont care and van owners that do and van owners that will lose out cos of the problems of others , as stated befor a org body to back us up in a tight corner would be good if things continue to decline as they are today. it dont mater who is to blame for the decline its just happening..

 

[dodge2transit]

this site has for part of that as wild camping co uk has a code of conduct to follow but thats is it, a guide and some will just ignore it any way why? ask them.
aldhragh was shut down becose they claim van owners were tiping waist clogging up the road and the road was not suitable for vans, yet i see the last time i was there non motor home vans parked on the wall and was covered in cars for as the eye could see.
may be the reel reason for this as a friend pointed out to me was van owners had there awnings out ands deck chairs and when cars come across to park they could not get by, also like felixstow the other day i pulled in to the point car park and a A class van was there parked sensibly but blocking the way with a boat. and two years befor this at filix again a chap parked close to the statics with a geny running the hole day.
its not a camp site its a car park and there is some things you dont do if any one reads the common sense rule this site tries to promote you will find it in here.
but some dont, even i have slip up as well as my dogs were yapping 6 am on a Sunday and i was also next to static i forgot but when i realised i shut them up and moved on.

 

[Burtie]

dont get me wrong Burtie im not trying to start any kind of malicious argument, all im saying or trying to say is there will always be van owners that dont care and van owners that do and van owners that will lose out cos of the problems of others , as stated befor a org body to back us up in a tight corner would be good if things continue to decline as they are today. it dont mater who is to blame for the decline its just happening..

no not at all ive come across my fare share of van owners that dont care ive seen them throw their rubbish in the hedges or where ever and as i believe as i sit on scarborough seafront at times the rubbish i accumalate in my van i keep it with me i dont even shove it in the bins situated in the streets as they would be full in no time i wait untill i see a council lorry collecting waste and you are quite right other van owners should have more thought for others i will certainly keep a look out for these individuals on any of my travels and take their numbers because it is not nice to know when you pull in to a layby other vans soon pull in fdor the night but some of them dispose of their waste where ever they feel like at least for those of us who dont do it can sleep peacefully in our beds

 

[dodge2transit]

no not at all ive come across my fare share of van owners that dont care ive seen them throw their rubbish in the hedges or where ever and as i believe as i sit on scarborough seafront at times the rubbish i accumalate in my van i keep it with me i dont even shove it in the bins situated in the streets as they would be full in no time i wait untill i see a council lorry collecting waste and you are quite right other van owners should have more thought for others i will certainly keep a look out for these individuals on any of my travels and take their numbers because it is not nice to know when you pull in to a layby other vans soon pull in fdor the night but some of them dispose of their waste where ever they feel like at least for those of us who dont do it can sleep peacefully in our beds

unless your some kind of hard nut i would not take numbers as this will lead to trouble for you, however there is a memeber on here that i was reading about and fail to remember who , that they pic up other vans owners crap i feel this would be better option as if we leave it there sooner or later we will not be aloud to park there, i did also read from the forum bos on here that has any one ever been prosecuted for parking in a no over night spot, well no i have not yet but its only time befor the high bars find there way up. clean up behind others if poss and we will least hold off the councils from stopping us. will i follow my advise , some of the times it depends on what it is im picking up and how much.

 

[maingate]

no not at all ive come across my fare share of van owners that dont care ive seen them throw their rubbish in the hedges or where ever and as i believe as i sit on scarborough seafront at times the rubbish i accumalate in my van i keep it with me i dont even shove it in the bins situated in the streets as they would be full in no time i wait untill i see a council lorry collecting waste and you are quite right other van owners should have more thought for others i will certainly keep a look out for these individuals on any of my travels and take their numbers because it is not nice to know when you pull in to a layby other vans soon pull in fdor the night but some of them dispose of their waste where ever they feel like at least for those of us who dont do it can sleep peacefully in our beds

If we ever met up Burtie, you and I would get on as we feel the same way about the way we use our vans. It will not be in Scarborough though. :lol-049:


As for Dodge wanting us to get the weight of an organisation (set up by ourselves), it will never happen. Time and time again there have been calls to get together to fight against some situation (on all forums) and it never gets off the ground. It is a very good notion but it will never get off the ground.

I remember when there were hundreds of expensive brand new Fiats with gearbox problems. Someone wanted to organise a convoy to Fiat UK headquarters (along with a lot of publicity). Lots of owners said it was a great idea. Did it happen? No it did not. Luckily, sustained pressure from one man did eventually work on the 2.3 models.

 

[dodge2transit]

As for Dodge wanting us to get the weight of an organisation (set up by ourselves), it will never happen. Time and time again there have been calls to get together to fight against some situation (on all forums) and it never gets off the ground. It is a very good notion but it will never get off the ground.

I remember when there were hundreds of expensive brand new Fiats with gearbox problems. Someone wanted to organise a convoy to Fiat UK headquarters (along with a lot of publicity). Lots of owners said it was a great idea. Did it happen? No it did not. Luckily, sustained pressure from one man did eventually work on the 2.3 models.

and this is the point i need to bring, we love to moan complain but not join and deel, and im as gily as the next man or woman for complaining..

 

[Burtie]

If we ever met up Burtie, you and I would get on as we feel the same way about the way we use our vans. It will not be in Scarborough though. :lol-049:


As for Dodge wanting us to get the weight of an organisation (set up by ourselves), it will never happen. Time and time again there have been calls to get together to fight against some situation (on all forums) and it never gets off the ground. It is a very good notion but it will never get off the ground.

I remember when there were hundreds of expensive brand new Fiats with gearbox problems. Someone wanted to organise a convoy to Fiat UK headquarters (along with a lot of publicity). Lots of owners said it was a great idea. Did it happen? No it did not. Luckily, sustained pressure from one man did eventually work on the 2.3 models.

thats good like in one of my threads i will help any motorhomer out weather its coachbuilt or selfbuilt no matter where i would take numbers i am not afraid to say i would even have a word with the ones that do throw their rubbish out anywhere to see if they understand that it gives us a bad name but yes i can understand shaun because it should not be that way its just ashame that these people cant be segregated from us because its what the residents think at the end of the day its somebody with a motorhome weather it be selfbuilt or coachbuilt

 

[dodge2transit]

thats good like in one of my threads i will help any motorhomer out weather its coachbuilt or selfbuilt no matter where i would take numbers i am not afraid to say i would even have a word with the ones that do throw their rubbish out anywhere to see if they understand that it gives us a bad name but yes i can understand shaun because it should not be that way its just ashame that these people cant be segregated from us because its what the residents think at the end of the day its somebody with a motorhome weather it be selfbuilt or coachbuilt

so will' i but the problem being with me as my van looked like a step toe atempt at holiday for free. ie no one come over to say hi.
but now iv got paint on we will see. i also will help any one in need.

 

[Burtie]

so will' i but the problem being with me as my van looked like a step toe atempt at holiday for free. ie no one come over to say hi.
but now iv got paint on we will see. i also will help any one in need.

I've looked at the pictures of your mh shaun it's nothing to be ashamed of
you should be proud of it I started off with a mini link bus I believe yours is the
transit which I think is brobably the most reliable vehicle you can get I went round
the country once in a transit van with the wife four kids and a friend with just a mattress
in the back and it never missed a beat so don't put your van down be a proud man

 

[dodge2transit]

I've looked at the pictures of your mh shaun it's nothing to be ashamed of
you should be proud of it I started off with a mini link bus I believe yours is the
transit which I think is probably the most reliable vehicle you can get I went round
the country once in a transit van with the wife four kids and a friend with just a mattress
in the back and it never missed a beat so don't put your van down be a proud man

im not diss in it any more as iv got the paint on now and its looking reel good for a home build, i beleave i can hold my own now when pulling in to sites and car parks with the simple attitude ' yup its a camper van me friend' lol its still need the cab to be done and sadly iv now got to fix the back as cliped a i ton sand bag in the front yard and riped the back panel haf off and buggered the grp in the center, but aprt from that i'm there now at last.

a cheeky sod in the shell garage walk away from filling me up when i pulled in befor the paint, and as i was filling it he came back very slowly scouting over the van i told him its hand made and with a sarcastic reply , i can see that!. well red running around my veins i got some paint and here we are.
whent back a few days later with the back and one side done he was slightly stuned and apologies for his sarcasm. humble pie and all that lol

so id like to say thank you to you for the praise Burtie. always good to be told some likes what you built, now you that i think you need to see my trike iv spent two years to put together lol. i will put it my blog later tomorrow so pop back and let me now what you think lol its a v8 trike....

 

[Burtie]

im not diss in it any more as iv got the paint on now and its looking reel good for a home build, i beleave i can hold my own now when pulling in to sites and car parks with the simple attitude ' yup its a camper van me friend' lol its still need the cab to be done and sadly iv now got to fix the back as cliped a i ton sand bag in the front yard and riped the back panel haf off and buggered the grp in the center, but aprt from that i'm there now at last.

a cheeky sod in the shell garage walk away from filling me up when i pulled in befor the paint, and as i was filling it he came back very slowly scouting over the van i told him its hand made and with a sarcastic reply , i can see that!. well red running around my veins i got some paint and here we are.
whent back a few days later with the back and one side done he was slightly stuned and apologies for his sarcasm. humble pie and all that lol

so id like to say thank you to you for the praise Burtie. always good to be told some likes what you built, now you that i think you need to see my trike iv spent two years to put together lol. i will put it my blog later tomorrow so pop back and let me now what you think lol its a v8 trike....

yes i will when i come back from the doctors they want a blood test as i had a heart attack in 2006
but that doesnt stop me from renovating my van with the good bit of weather today i managed to get another section of floor down just got screw it down now just hope the sun stays for a few days

 

[dodge2transit]

yes i will when i come back from the doctors they want a blood test as i had a heart attack in 2006
but that doesnt stop me from renovating my van with the good bit of weather today i managed to get another section of floor down just got screw it down now just hope the sun stays for a few days

raining here , and this thread has now gone to sh*t lol.off track