Reprieve for Diesel Motorhomes

RSD7a said:
It was news to me to read today in the Camping and Caravan club mag that diesel motorhomes will be among those exempted from the 2030 zero-emission deadline for new vehicles. Who knew? (Maybe everyone but me?)
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But will they have exemptions for LEZ/CAZ?
 
It says ICE, not diesel so probably some form of petrol hybrid, but assuming it’s either diesel or petrol, being able to buy is one thing but using it for the projected life of the vehicle might be an entirely different thing, especially if the current scam congestion zones get replaced with national road pricing schemes at say 20p per mile for EVs and £1 a mile for any form of ICE petrol engine and £500000000000000000 an inch for diesel 😉

I suspect the anti dog sh** type brigade will have a whole new thing to vilify across whatever vile anti social media platforms still exist by then and owner of ICE vehicles will have to keep stopping to clean up and bag their emmisions!

Thinks there could be a market for portable carbon capture systems, and everyone will have to tow a giant Noo-noo behind them…..
 
Thistle said:
It says ICE, not diesel so probably some form of petrol hybrid, but assuming it’s either diesel or petrol, being able to buy is one thing but using it for the projected life of the vehicle might be an entirely different thing, especially if the current scam congestion zones get replaced with national road pricing schemes at say 20p per mile for EVs and £1 a mile for any form of ICE petrol engine and £500000000000000000 an inch for diesel 😉

I suspect the anti dog sh** type brigade will have a whole new thing to vilify across whatever vile anti social media platforms still exist by then and owner of ICE vehicles will have to keep stopping to clean up and bag their emmisions!

Thinks there could be a market for portable carbon capture systems, and everyone will have to tow a giant Noo-noo behind them…..
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Meen time half the world is letting of squibes at each other filling the air with cr-p.
 
Thistle said:
It says ICE, not diesel so probably some form of petrol hybrid, but assuming it’s either diesel or petrol, being able to buy is one thing but using it for the projected life of the vehicle might be an entirely different thing, especially if the current scam congestion zones get replaced with national road pricing schemes at say 20p per mile for EVs and £1 a mile for any form of ICE petrol engine and £500000000000000000 an inch for diesel 😉

I suspect the anti dog sh** type brigade will have a whole new thing to vilify across whatever vile anti social media platforms still exist by then and owner of ICE vehicles will have to keep stopping to clean up and bag their emmisions!

Thinks there could be a market for portable carbon capture systems, and everyone will have to tow a giant Noo-noo behind them…..
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There already is a carbon capture scheme in its first sea trials for ships [Guardian article couple of days ago]. A standard Freight Container on board ship is partly filled with quicklime and the engine emissions are piped inside; the quicklime turns to limestone which is then sold at the destination port or carried back to UK for building materials etc. A second container is filled with quicklime for the return journey and more limestone produced. Initial Sea Trials planned for a voyage towards Turkey, IIRC.

Steve
 
Back to the old days i say, show a leg.
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Meanwhile the government is trying to work out how it is going to replace the £25 Billion P/A it is losing in fuel duty and VAT that it losses when EV payy just 5% domestic VAT on the electric they use 🤔
 
I am currently converting the Iveco in my Avatar but I am seriously starting to think I am wasting my time as optimistically I may not even get 4-5 years use out of it before being priced off the road, can you imagine diesel at £5 a litre…. Or that journeys from A to B to avoid per mile tolled roads etc will become so convoluted as to not be practical, side roads and country lanes definitely aren’t always fun to drive down!

It may well end up just being guest accommodation!
 
Thistle said:
I am currently converting the Iveco in my Avatar but I am seriously starting to think I am wasting my time as optimistically I may not even get 4-5 years use out of it before being priced off the road, can you imagine diesel at £5 a litre…. Or that journeys from A to B to avoid per mile tolled roads etc will become so convoluted as to not be practical, side roads and country lanes definitely aren’t always fun to drive down!

It may well end up just being guest accommodation!
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The infrastructure wont be ready by 2030 and it will be extended, dont panic keep the van.
Cables like elephants trunks would need to be installed all round the country which will require all roads dug up and about 3/5 new nuclear power stations to be built just to charge cars, it will not happen.
 
trevskoda said:
The infrastructure wont be ready by 2030 and it will be extended, dont panic keep the van.
Cables like elephants trunks would need to be installed all round the country which will require all roads dug up and about 3/5 new nuclear power stations to be built just to charge cars, it will not happen.
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Sincerely hope you are right Trev
 
Martin P said:
Sincerely hope you are right Trev
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Thing that drives me bonkers is roads dug up for f broadband, two weeks later its up again for gas, few more weeks opened again for sewer upgrade, why on earth can councils not get it all sorted with in one dig, someonr requires there ass well and truely kicked.
 
trevskoda said:
Thing that drives me bonkers is roads dug up for f broadband, two weeks later its up again for gas, few more weeks opened again for sewer upgrade, why on earth can councils not get it all sorted with in one dig, someonr requires there ass well and truely kicked.
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The council must charge them to do it and if so then they are likely making a profit. What upsets me is the way they just put a trench down the middle of the road. When they fill it it starts to break down after a couple of years and the road surface fails. To do the job properly at least the whole side of the carriageway should be surfaced
 
trevskoda said:
Thing that drives me bonkers is roads dug up for f broadband, two weeks later its up again for gas, few more weeks opened again for sewer upgrade, why on earth can councils not get it all sorted with in one dig, someonr requires there ass well and truely kicked.
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I genuinely think there must be some gain to be constantly digging up then making good then digging up the same bit of road in a seemingly uncoordinated manner it’s far too common to be pure coincidence

Obviously ultimately it’s is the tax payer or utility service customers paying every time I don’t think it’s corruption or incompetence so maybe there’s tax advantages or the ability to off set individual liabilities by doing it the way they do
 
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Thistle said:
I genuinely think there must be some fgain to be constantly digging up then making good then digging up the same bit of road in a seemingly uncoordinated manner it’s far too common to be pure coincidence

Obviously ultimately it’s is the tax payer or utility service customers paying every time I don’t think it’s corruption or incompetence so maybe there’s tax advantages or the ability to off set individual liabilities by doing it the way they do
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It's been a nightmare in Hull with fibre companies digging up pavements and putting telegraph poles in everywhere. I didn't realise you didn't need planning permission to put a new telegraph pole in until I saw all the kicking off here.

Absolute madness, I haven't even had a landline since moving to Hull, started off with a company that did wireless mesh then changed about 18 months ago to a SIM card. Most cities will have 5G by now I expect so no reason to pay what the fibre companies want for internet never mind all the poles and digging up
 
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