removing Carver Cascade water heater

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Hi, I would welcome some advice: the chap who converted my camper put in a Carver Cascade water heater (it's new and hardly used) which I find a complete waste of time and I woud like to remove it. I am hoping to fit a gas warm air heater in its place which would be of much more use. The question I have is, can I 'blank off' the gas pipe for the time being, and HOW do I do this?
 
Hi, I would welcome some advice: the chap who converted my camper put in a Carver Cascade water heater (it's new and hardly used) which I find a complete waste of time and I woud like to remove it. I am hoping to fit a gas warm air heater in its place which would be of much more use. The question I have is, can I 'blank off' the gas pipe for the time being, and HOW do I do this?

Are you selling the old one?
 
Yes you can, but gas isn't to be messed with. I'm sure you'll be fine, but I have to say it!

You need a compression stop end the correct size.

Something like:

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Funny - I've toyed with the idea of fitting one (even though I don't really need one either!).

You could fit a valve tap on the end to cut off the gas, or a stop-end to blank it off. I am assuming that its an 8mm copper solid pipe here. If not you can get a spigot that converts a flexible pipe to a threaded gas fitting and then add your tap / stop-end etc.

I'm no expert but it can be done.

(You may be lucky and have a gas set up with individual gas taps fitted for each appliance to be able to isolate them independently. If you have then you can simply turn off the feed to that appliance! (I'd be tempted to wired it closed or tape it off with a warning note though to prevent accidentally turning it back on until a more permanent alteration had been made though).

As to whether the gas blow air heater can fit in the same space.... that's by no means certain, as you have to worry where your exhaust pipes and air ducts will route.
I moved my diesel blown air heater from under the sofa to the back of my van, and could not fit it exactly where I wanted as I'd have needed my air inlet and hot exhaust to run through the diesel main fuel tank! Check what is around and indeed under your space before starting to cut holes!
 
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Sorry to say this but by your own question you do not sound like you know a thing about plumbing ?
To start learning on gas is at least naieve and at worst dangerous ?
For your own safety get someone who knows what they are doing to do it for you please ?
Many will give advice that is well meant but where has anyone told you to carry out leak detection and a tightness test ?
Go and see n brown or someone that knows what they are doing .

Many thanks for all the advice. You are right, I am no expert and realise the dangers involved. I will follow up with N. Brown, who has also posted here.
 
Hi, nothing is wrong with the cascade, in fact, I hope to sell it on to someone after removal. I simply do not need it in my camper, I only have a sink and can heat all he water I need using the kettle! There is no isolating valve in the gas pipe to the water heater (something which I would have considered an absolute necessity), and I will certainly put one in before fitting a heater. Thank you for your interest.
 
Funny - I've toyed with the idea of fitting one (even though I don't really need one either!).

You could fit a valve tap on the end to cut off the gas, or a stop-end to blank it off. I am assuming that its an 8mm copper solid pipe here. If not you can get a spigot that converts a flexible pipe to a threaded gas fitting and then add your tap / stop-end etc.

I'm no expert but it can be done.

(You may be lucky and have a gas set up with individual gas taps fitted for each appliance to be able to isolate them independently. If you have then you can simply turn off the feed to that appliance! (I'd be tempted to wired it closed or tape it off with a warning note though to prevent accidentally turning it back on until a more permanent alteration had been made though).

As to whether the gas blow air heater can fit in the same space.... that's by no means certain, as you have to worry where your exhaust pipes and air ducts will route.
I moved my diesel blown air heater from under the sofa to the back of my van, and could not fit it exactly where I wanted as I'd have needed my air inlet and hot exhaust to run through the diesel main fuel tank! Check what is around and indeed under your space before starting to cut holes!


Many thanks for your full reply. There are no individual turn-off valves fitted in the supply gas pipes for either the water heater or gas hob, and this is something I will address when the alterations are made. I am lucky enough to have enough space for a Propex hot air heater, and am hoping to fit this or something similar.
 
Yes you can, but gas isn't to be messed with. I'm sure you'll be fine, but I have to say it!

You need a compression stop end the correct size.

Something like:

G821.jpg

Many thanks for the photo, I will get some professional advice before the job is undertaken.
 
Hi, many thanks for your reply. Yes, I will be fitting isolating valves which were not fitted! There is nothing wrong with the Carver Cascade, it's simply that I do not NEED it, (a kettle will provide enough hot water for me!) and a hot-air heater would be very much more useful. All the best
 

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