Public Enemy No 1 ?

When you read it, twice it mentions people spending money, or not, which seems to be the real reason that they are getting upset about, and rather than block or find a way of banning us as a solution, why can they not look for solutions to cater for us rattan than the old chestnut of go to a campsite.
Do they really think that non of us spend money locally
 
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This post from a Cllr Carwyn Jones on the Llanddona Community Page on Facebook about a week ago.
Seems a lot of the locals are also pretty unhappy about the boulders appearing. :unsure:

"As Mr Geraint Parry the Llanddona Community Council Clerk notes a meeting was held regarding the situation down at the beach which I did Chair, this was between the adjacent landowners, Llanddona Community Council, Seiriol Ward Cllrs and the CEO of Anglesey Council with the Head of Regulation also in attendance. Also as Geraint notes further work and investigation is taking place following this meeting. There is a meeting of the Llanddona Community Council on Wednesday night where this will be discussed and where we go from here.

The local news reporter has been in touch with all stakeholder groups who attended the meeting and is covering, bar my own comments and those from Cllr Alun Roberts I have not seen other responses he has received. I have shared both our comments to the press below.

At the meeting on the 22 March I did state in the opening address that the area is an AONB and its value and history to the Community of Llanddona, where local people have roamed freely for centuries, and over the last few weeks considerable change has taken place with aggressive boulders and barriers and did ask for these to be removed and discussion to take place. As everyone will know this is not an easy situation and is one where strong views on both sides and challenges exist.

Both myself and Cllr Roberts as the Seiriol Ward Cllrs have offered to work with everyone to try and come to an understanding to resolve this situation and that offer still very much stands. We want to see a solution and hopefully we can get everyone around the table again to discuss further.

Cllr Alun Roberts commented:
“After a long, in-depth and honest discussion between interested parties, it was decided that more work needed to be done to resolve the controversial issues affecting Llanddona beach at present. I believe it is of paramount importance that all stakeholders interested in a longterm and sustainable future of the beach and its amenities come and work together to resolve these issues to the satisfaction of all local people in the Llanddona area.”

Cllr Carwyn Jones commented
"I can confirm that I did Chair a meeting between the adjacent landowners and Llanddona Community Council in the hope of trying to find a way forward to the situation. This is a very sensitive area and where local people have enjoyed roaming freely for centuries, everyone does however agree that there are challenge that need to be addressed and there are certainly strong views and opinions on both sides. Along with my fellow Seiriol Cllr, we have offered to work with all stakeholders to try and find a way forward."

"I did point out at the meeting, it is unlikely that my family and many other local people would visit Llanddona beach now during Easter and Summer if the boulders are still in place to restrict parking as the beach gets very busy during peak holiday times and the reduced amount of parking space available will be very challenging." "
 
mariesnowgoose said:
This post from a Cllr Carwyn Jones on the Llanddona Community Page on Facebook about a week ago.
Seems a lot of the locals are also pretty unhappy about the boulders appearing. :unsure:

"As Mr Geraint Parry the Llanddona Community Council Clerk notes a meeting was held regarding the situation down at the beach which I did Chair, this was between the adjacent landowners, Llanddona Community Council, Seiriol Ward Cllrs and the CEO of Anglesey Council with the Head of Regulation also in attendance. Also as Geraint notes further work and investigation is taking place following this meeting. There is a meeting of the Llanddona Community Council on Wednesday night where this will be discussed and where we go from here.

The local news reporter has been in touch with all stakeholder groups who attended the meeting and is covering, bar my own comments and those from Cllr Alun Roberts I have not seen other responses he has received. I have shared both our comments to the press below.

At the meeting on the 22 March I did state in the opening address that the area is an AONB and its value and history to the Community of Llanddona, where local people have roamed freely for centuries, and over the last few weeks considerable change has taken place with aggressive boulders and barriers and did ask for these to be removed and discussion to take place. As everyone will know this is not an easy situation and is one where strong views on both sides and challenges exist.

Both myself and Cllr Roberts as the Seiriol Ward Cllrs have offered to work with everyone to try and come to an understanding to resolve this situation and that offer still very much stands. We want to see a solution and hopefully we can get everyone around the table again to discuss further.

Cllr Alun Roberts commented:
“After a long, in-depth and honest discussion between interested parties, it was decided that more work needed to be done to resolve the controversial issues affecting Llanddona beach at present. I believe it is of paramount importance that all stakeholders interested in a longterm and sustainable future of the beach and its amenities come and work together to resolve these issues to the satisfaction of all local people in the Llanddona area.”

Cllr Carwyn Jones commented
"I can confirm that I did Chair a meeting between the adjacent landowners and Llanddona Community Council in the hope of trying to find a way forward to the situation. This is a very sensitive area and where local people have enjoyed roaming freely for centuries, everyone does however agree that there are challenge that need to be addressed and there are certainly strong views and opinions on both sides. Along with my fellow Seiriol Cllr, we have offered to work with all stakeholders to try and find a way forward."

"I did point out at the meeting, it is unlikely that my family and many other local people would visit Llanddona beach now during Easter and Summer if the boulders are still in place to restrict parking as the beach gets very busy during peak holiday times and the reduced amount of parking space available will be very challenging." "
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Unfortunately, until there are more Car Parks that accept some motorhome only pitches then this situation will not go away. If, and when there are more spaces available for everybody to have a share of, then I'm afraid the motorhomers will be excluded because they take up more space.
 
One less place to park up. So those who parked there go elsewhere. And those who illegally sanctioned the boulders on public land have achieved what they set out.

NOT IN MY BACK YARD

So far only one group have broken the law, and it’s not us, but then when you THINK you have the moral high ground that’s how some behave.
 
Fisherman said:
One less place to park up. So those who parked there go elsewhere. And those who illegally sanctioned the boulders on public land have achieved what they set out.

NOT IN MY BACK YARD

So far only one group have broken the law, and it’s not us, but then when you THINK you have the moral high ground that’s how some behave.
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I have a feeling - although hard to tell as the references are a bit obtuse and evasive - but it could be that parts of that shoreline are privately owned, maybe by some of the holiday cottages? Could be why nobody noticed the HIAB/tractor ! :ROFLMAO:;)

Always understood the Crown owns majority of our coastline? :unsure:
Dunno why I think that, but have a vague recollection from somewhere in the dim and distant past!
 
Hi. I was always under the impression up to the tide line the crown owns. above the tideline can be privately owned. Shellness isle of sheppey good example. Even has signs up stating walk below tideline ok . keep off above. No walking when tide in unless walking in the shallows. Brian
 
A dispute seems to have arisen between the locals about the installation of the boulders on the shoreline. 🤷‍♀️
 
FWIW and AFAICT, that's a single-track road. I call the boulders an obstruction that prevents one vehicle from pulling over to let another from the opposite direction pass!
 
GeoffL said:
FWIW and AFAICT, that's a single-track road. I call the boulders an obstruction that prevents one vehicle from pulling over to let another from the opposite direction pass!
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There are at least a couple of tarmac passing places along there already, Geoff.

At the end of the day it's just one beach. 🤷‍♀️
Still a shame, but looks like the locals will perhaps sort it one way or another.
 
mariesnowgoose said:
There are at least a couple of tarmac passing places along there already, Geoff.

At the end of the day it's just one beach. 🤷‍♀️
Still a shame, but looks like the locals will perhaps sort it one way or another.
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Comparing the photo with Google Maps Streetview (which is dated 2009), it looks like at least one of the passing places has been allowed to deteriorate and is now blocked with boulders.

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